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General Discussion  » SWTOR has some of the best graphics for an MMO out there

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  PeetRock

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8/20/11 10:44:54 PM#41

lots of poeple are blind and can't think straight becuase its SWTOR!!! WOOOWW!!!!! the graphics is nothing that will blow ur MIND!!! it has good graphics but best? plz.... (im not hating im definitly playing it) also p.s i hate how the guy walks...am i the only one that thinks this way? the character walks like he shit his pants and has heels on

  atticusbc

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8/20/11 10:47:48 PM#42

Except for ArcheAge running on the CryEngine 3.

  stayontarget

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8/20/11 10:50:27 PM#43

Hard to disguise bad animation.  Tor looks stiff IMO.

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  Gardavsshade

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8/20/11 10:52:11 PM#44

Graphic quality I think is very good. Artistic style I do not prefer. Simple as that.

Will I play it? Nope. World of Warcraft's cartoon art style ruined me (also EQ2, LotRO's horrid character models/animations even if it has a great world, Wurm Online's great environment and absolute terrible character "clones", etc.)

I want as a customer... no, as a customer and player I demand... an artistic style in the MMORPG I play that stresses realism with character modeling, animations, and the ingame virtual world. I want it to look and feel like a believable world while I play. Artistic Realism equals believability to me. I say "demand" because I won't open my wallet if it isn't the way I like it.

Is that Selfish? Sure is... much about MMO gaming is selfish whether anyone wants to admit it or not.

I expect a Star Wars MMO to look artistically real life as much as possible, even more so than other MMOs. SW:TOR doesn't to me.

This all comes down to personal preferences.


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  Jockan

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8/20/11 10:54:20 PM#45

I think the game looks great but I would have loved to see a more Mass Effect style too. Funny thing is that they guy is just running around alone with bullets flying everwhere even hitting him but its seems like its just nonthing. 

  Unshra

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8/20/11 10:55:35 PM#46
Originally posted by keithian

OK, this is an even better video if you focus on the environments and the graphical detail. I'm not as distracted by the turd playing like in the first video lol. Love it!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMbI30KKJ0

 Turd? Bah I like Total Biscuit, he's honest and cracks me up! Anyways thanks for the link, I saw his last video but didn't know he had done another SW:TOR video.


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  GMan3

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8/20/11 10:57:04 PM#47
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by kalinis

planets wont have day nite cycles according to the devs. Im assuming sandstorms and stuff as yes based on what ive heard from the devs but can remember exactly,. They perfered to do it so that it had no day nite cycle at launch at least. 

They stated why but i dont remember there reason. Something to do with amount of images they had to create for them to have day nite cycle i belive but dont quote me as im not sure.

I wont even notice. RIght now as I'm playing Oblvion, unless I have a quest that requires the night, I just rest and speed it up for the day so the vendor shops are all open. The only thing I like about day and night cycles is how pretty it looks when the sun sets and rises :-)

     I believe most people never even notice Day / Night cycles unless something in the game forces them too.  In my most recent attempt at playing WoW I spent over thirty hours playing and yet never even realised it until almost the very end.  I mentioned it in a particular guild active time and of about a dozen people talking at the time, only three had noticed it.  The rest were completely surprised.  One guy even accused me of lying because he had never actively seen it happen except in cutscene's.

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  keithian

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OP  8/20/11 11:02:29 PM#48
Originally posted by Unshra
Originally posted by keithian

OK, this is an even better video if you focus on the environments and the graphical detail. I'm not as distracted by the turd playing like in the first video lol. Love it!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMbI30KKJ0

 Turd? Bah I like Total Biscuit, he's honest and cracks me up! Anyways thanks for the link, I saw his last video but didn't know he had done another SW:TOR video.

lol, I'm not talking about Total Biscuit, his video was great. The first one I posted, I mean...really? lol

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  Distopia2

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8/20/11 11:02:38 PM#49

Sure when it comes to bells and whistles TOR has them, but it's hardly the best. I realize you're not saying they are, just some of the best. Which is a totally subjective opinion that depends on graphical as well as artistic taste.

I personally feel AOC tops them by far in most departments, from realism to artisticstyling which AOC has a good mix of both IMO. I also like the look of GW2 a little more, as well as TSW and Tera (minus the giant swords). I still think TOR is well done graphically as well as in it's art direction.

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  keithian

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OP  8/20/11 11:03:36 PM#50
Originally posted by GMan3
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by kalinis

planets wont have day nite cycles according to the devs. Im assuming sandstorms and stuff as yes based on what ive heard from the devs but can remember exactly,. They perfered to do it so that it had no day nite cycle at launch at least. 

They stated why but i dont remember there reason. Something to do with amount of images they had to create for them to have day nite cycle i belive but dont quote me as im not sure.

I wont even notice. RIght now as I'm playing Oblvion, unless I have a quest that requires the night, I just rest and speed it up for the day so the vendor shops are all open. The only thing I like about day and night cycles is how pretty it looks when the sun sets and rises :-)

     I believe most people never even notice Day / Night cycles unless something in the game forces them too.  In my most recent attempt at playing WoW I spent over thirty hours playing and yet never even realised it until almost the very end.  I mentioned it in a particular guild active time and of about a dozen people talking at the time, only three had noticed it.  The rest were completely surprised.  One guy even accused me of lying because he had never actively seen it happen except in cutscene's.

I agree. I think it will be the same as swimming. Id like it, but I won't even notice it when Im playing.

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  keithian

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OP  8/20/11 11:05:05 PM#51
Originally posted by stayontarget

Hard to disguise bad animation.  Tor looks stiff IMO.

Duh! This is not about animations, this was about graphics. Try staying on topic.

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  Isawa

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8/20/11 11:07:24 PM#52
Originally posted by VoIgore

Are there any changing weather or environment conditions like i.e. fog moving in, sandstorms, snowfall etc.? Is the skybox dynamic with moving clouds or moons? I also haven't seen any nighttime videos, is there any sort of day/nightcycle on the planets?

Just curious :)

The game does not have day/night cycles to date. I heard snowfall/snowstorms are present on certain planets like Hoth, and other planets like Tatooine should have sandstorms. The degree to how large/visually constricting such storms are is unknown. I am uncertatain on the skybox elements.

I like the game's graphics, but those huge male toons (and some other style features) will be annoying me for some time. Maybe at release that'll change for me :)

  DJJazzy

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8/20/11 11:11:43 PM#53
Originally posted by Distopia

Sure when it comes to bells and whistles TOR has them, but it's hardly the best. I realize you're not saying they are, just some of the best. Which is a totally subjective opinion that depends on graphical as well as artistic taste.

I personally feel AOC tops them by far in most departments, from realism to artisticstyling which AOC has a good mix of both IMO. I also like the look of GW2 a little more, as well as TSW and Tera (minus the giant swords). I still think TOR is well done graphically as well as in it's art direction.

 I agree about AoC. Even the upcoming games still can't compare to AoC graphics and animations.

  Raxeon

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8/20/11 11:13:30 PM#54

are you kidding op?

  keithian

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OP  8/20/11 11:18:16 PM#55
Originally posted by Raxeon

are you kidding op?

Stop trolling unless you have something interesting to say. I wouldn't have created the OP if I didn't believe in what I wrote. All I can say is that most playing the game of UNFINISHED builds are giving high marks to the graphics and environments.

 

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  Teala

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8/20/11 11:33:39 PM#56

You know the one of the many things that annoys me about this game is the stagnet and poorly scripted MOB AI's.   It is horrible in this game.  

  DJJazzy

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8/20/11 11:38:44 PM#57
Originally posted by Teala

You know the one of the many things that annoys me about this game is the stagnet and poorly scripted MOB AI's.   It is horrible in this game.  

 It's horrible for all MMOs. The best enemy AI for an mmo was in a now defunct mmo (Tabula Rasa).

  keithian

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OP  8/20/11 11:40:49 PM#58
Originally posted by DJJazzy
Originally posted by Teala

You know the one of the many things that annoys me about this game is the stagnet and poorly scripted MOB AI's.   It is horrible in this game.  

 It's horrible for all MMOs. The best enemy AI for an mmo was in a now defunct mmo (Tabula Rasa).

Even as a fan of the game I agree with this. I also agree it pertains to all MMOs which is why right now I'm loving Elder Scrolls Oblivion, but this is also off topic.

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  ZombieKen

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8/20/11 11:42:02 PM#59

Is the OP referring to environment modeling and character art?  Lighting and visual-fx?  General presentation?  Rendering technology?

It would be easier to comment if I understood what about the videos is found to be so impressive.

When I think of "graphics" I tend to refer to general improvements and application of modern rendering technology, things like shader effects, water fx, lighting-shadowing, haze, god-rays etc.  Frankly, I see very little in these vids that looks anything more than circa 2008 D3D 9c rendering.

Not bashing.  I guess I'm missing the point.

 

Maybe a more clear way to ask this.  Is it the models and artwork in the game that is so good, or the way the engine renders the artwork and special effects?

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  GMan3

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8/20/11 11:44:17 PM#60
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by DJJazzy
Originally posted by Teala

You know the one of the many things that annoys me about this game is the stagnet and poorly scripted MOB AI's.   It is horrible in this game.  

 It's horrible for all MMOs. The best enemy AI for an mmo was in a now defunct mmo (Tabula Rasa).

Even as a fan of the game I agree with this. I also agree it pertains to all MMOs which is why right now I'm loving Elder Scrolls Oblivion, but this is also off topic.

     I haven't made up my mind yet since I haven't seen any real higher level gaming footage where the real differences will show.  Even the Dev Walkthrough of Tatooine they said they had purposely dumbed it down in order to more easily show off the game.  I will say that some enemies running for cover is VERY nice though.

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