After watching the latest videos, I am convinced that Bioware has improved the environments 100% from just a year ago, including the animations. When I watch the first 30-45 seconds of the video below and focus on the environments, there is not one game out there that matches it in my opinion. Very detailed and perfect for the Star Wars Universe we are looking for.  I'm not talking about the game play which I think has to show case two of the worst players in MMO history lol, just the enviroments. Now I haven't tried FInal Fantasy because I knew what a disaster that was going to be, but even if the artistry is not your thing the ambiance they have created is top notch...especially considering this is not the final build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRnXws_37xs&hd=1

Updated:

This video is easier on the eyes because a turd isn't playing it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMbI30KKJ0

Updated with another long video showing the excellent graphics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMbI30KKJ0

Yet another one who is confuced and don't know the difference between grahics and artstyle.

But it do looks nice.

I would agree.  There is a new level of polish in the videos.  We've only seen a very small amount of content though.  I won't be excited until the NDA comes down and people can freely talk about and post their own videos/screenshots of the game.

Originally posted by Torgrim

Yet another one who is confuced and don't know the difference between grahics and artstyle.

Get a grip.  There should be a -1 button here for wasting our time.

Originally posted by HurricanePip

I would agree.  There is a new level of polish in the videos.  We've only seen a very small amount of content though.  I won't be excited until the NDA comes down and people can freely talk about and post their own videos/screenshots of the game.

Originally posted by Torgrim

Yet another one who is confuced and don't know the difference between grahics and artstyle.

Get a grip.  There should be a -1 button here for wasting our time.

Yep doing drunk writing so yeah i need to get a grip :D

Originally posted by Torgrim

Graphics and artstyle are 2 different things.

But it do looks nice.

OP never mentioned Artstyle...just you.

You seem confused.

I could show you some WoW screenshots that you wouldn't believe...

Point?  Gotta see the real game, how it really plays, and see if they made EVERYTHING good.  Rather than just a few select areas for use in promotions.

Originally posted by Dromund

Originally posted by Torgrim

Graphics and artstyle are 2 different things.

But it do looks nice.

OP never mentioned Artstyle...just you.

You seem confused.

No he didnt, he mentioned graphics hence there is graphics and there is artstyle and people tends to mix them up.

Originally posted by Painlezz

I could show you some WoW screenshots that you wouldn't believe...

 

Point?  Gotta see the real game, how it really plays, and see if they made EVERYTHING good.  Rather than just a few select areas for use in promotions.

Let's see them. Here's two while I wait.

Why is it always that the guys playing in those videos are total noobs without any ability to neither neither their charater nor the ingame camera?

Originally posted by VoIgore

Why is it always that the guys playing in those videos are total noobs without any ability to neither neither their charater nor the ingame camera?

They talk more than playing?

It might be a toss up between TOR and AOC.  AOC maxed looks pretty good.  I think fully maxed I was getting about 30 fps in AOC.  Not sure on that, it's been a few months since I played it.  It will be interesting to see how well TOR runs fully maxed, and what fps I will be getting.  I'm probably buying a new computer 3 to 6 months after launch, assuming the game is really good.

I agree a little bit with the OP. I think the graphics are pretty good, and probably more importantly for the game's success, look scalable. However, I really don't like the game's art style.

This was also my view for the Clone Wars animated series. I don't understand how Lucasarts or Bioware can think either are appropriate for the Star Wars universe. It seems an affront to anyone who grew up with the original Star Wars.

Despite other shortcomings, FFXIV's graphics are pretty damn awesome. Of course, you also need a computer built by NASA to fully enjoy the eyecandy. As mentioned above, AOC with max settings looks amazing. TOR looks good, but, "best graphics for an MMO out there" I think not.

Originally posted by Terminus-Est

I agree a little bit with the OP. I think the graphics are pretty good, and probably more importantly for the game's success, look scalable. However, I really don't like the game's art style.

This was also my view for the Clone Wars animated series. I don't understand how Lucasarts or Bioware can think either are appropriate for the Star Wars universe. It seems an affront to anyone who grew up with the original Star Wars.

I can see your concern with the style. But if it was real looking then it would look boring, and if it looked like AIon or Tera then it would look very Asian. Also With this style the game will be always in its time and never be out of style because its tooney which is why world of warcraft has lasted as long as it has. Plus the dev team of TOR have already started planning 20 years in advanced which is nuts hoping to add 100+ worlds and what not. So Knowing this i am okay with the style and hope that they just keep ass to the resolution and detail of the game.

Originally posted by rezail

Originally posted by Terminus-Est

I agree a little bit with the OP. I think the graphics are pretty good, and probably more importantly for the game's success, look scalable. However, I really don't like the game's art style.

This was also my view for the Clone Wars animated series. I don't understand how Lucasarts or Bioware can think either are appropriate for the Star Wars universe. It seems an affront to anyone who grew up with the original Star Wars.

I can see your concern with the style. But if it was real looking then it would look boring, and if it looked like AIon or Tera then it would look very Asian. Also With this style the game will be always in its time and never be out of style because its tooney which is why world of warcraft has lasted as long as it has. Plus the dev team of TOR have already started planning 20 years in advanced which is nuts hoping to add 100+ worlds and what not. So Knowing this i am okay with the style and hope that they just keep ass to the resolution and detail of the game.

Rezail, you captured my thoughts exactly. Now if this was a single player game my opinion would be very different. For a single player game I demand graphics like the WItcher 2 and Skyrim :-) lol

Originally posted by Terranah

It might be a toss up between TOR and AOC.  AOC maxed looks pretty good.  I think fully maxed I was getting about 30 fps in AOC.  Not sure on that, it's been a few months since I played it.  It will be interesting to see how well TOR runs fully maxed, and what fps I will be getting.  I'm probably buying a new computer 3 to 6 months after launch, assuming the game is really good.

Why not keep your current PC, not run the game at max.  Then wait for them to release some new better technology. Because you know as soon as you build a new PC.  ATI and Nvidia will go, here goes our new tech.

Originally posted by Zookz1

Despite other shortcomings, FFXIV's graphics are pretty damn awesome. Of course, you also need a computer built by NASA to fully enjoy the eyecandy. As mentioned above, AOC with max settings looks amazing. TOR looks good, but, "best graphics for an MMO out there" I think not.

Oh yeah FF 14 is  great. So great you can't get enough of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9nLBfH44c

Graphics look alright but count me as another one who doesn't like the art style they used. I wished they would have gone for a Mass Effect look rather than clone wars.

Originally posted by Terminus-Est

I agree a little bit with the OP. I think the graphics are pretty good, and probably more importantly for the game's success, look scalable. However, I really don't like the game's art style.

This was also my view for the Clone Wars animated series. I don't understand how Lucasarts or Bioware can think either are appropriate for the Star Wars universe. It seems an affront to anyone who grew up with the original Star Wars.

 Don't agrre thtat it seems an affront to anyone that grew up with the original Star Wars. The art style does not bother me and I was 7 when Star Wars came out.  Also it does not bother anyone else I know that grew up with Star Wars.  Not saying there are not people that grew up with Star Wars that do not like the art but  I am just going by the sample size i can gather,

The graphics dont look any better than star trek online imo.