yeah, wow is def the best in the world, no other game can defeat it but itself, i hope blizzard keep it up and dont ruin it for us.

World of Warcraft and Blizzard deserves its success.  Maybe they got lucky.  Maybe they're prodigies.  It doesnt really matter. 

Its, as far as I know, the most successful computer game of all time.  I said GAME.  Not even mmo.  Im looking forward to what comes next.  Stopped playing years ago. 

But I have to give Blizzard props.  I did enjoy my time there. 

Originally posted by Corehaven

World of Warcraft and Blizzard deserves its success.  Maybe they got lucky.  Maybe they're prodigies.  It doesnt really matter. 

 

Its, as far as I know, the most successful computer game of all time.  I said GAME.  Not even mmo.  Im looking forward to what comes next.  Stopped playing years ago. 

 

But I have to give Blizzard props.  I did enjoy my time there. 

I agree.  It was a fun game and spent a lot of good times with friends from real life playing it.  Was a nice way to stay in touch when we all left for school and what not.   But WoW for a long time and still for a lot even now is entertaining.  Tho I played again to check out the new xpac and for the most part i see more of the addicts than i do the people that enjoy the game. 

I thought OP was a question. WoW has a great thing for a bit flawed game, it has the inertia going for them. Any game is hard to leave, this one is the hardest of them all due to the investment put on it. Money, time and friends you found along the way are the main reason people feel stuck to this game. This game could be a massive piece of crap now and some people still wouldn't leave this game.

Originally posted by Corehaven

World of Warcraft and Blizzard deserves its success.  Maybe they got lucky.  Maybe they're prodigies.  It doesnt really matter. 

 

Its, as far as I know, the most successful computer game of all time.  I said GAME.  Not even mmo.  Im looking forward to what comes next.  Stopped playing years ago. 

 

But I have to give Blizzard props.  I did enjoy my time there. 

if you pay attention to your words you will find a lot of similarities between you and a religious fanatic, dont need to say more just make it guess if you can.

Sadly nobody beats wow.

I recently tested all my other mmo accounts, EQ2 (didn't bother with EQ since it is way too old now), Vanguard, Age of Conan, Lotro, SWG (This one I didnt really give much playtime as it closes soon anyway) Rift, DDO and even some free 2 play ones Forsaken world, Runes of magic and Allods. 

So this last friday I opened my wow account again and ended up playing through the weekend like the weak weak addict I am.

The biggest difference I noted was how smooth controlling your character feels and how responsive your abilities feel when you fire them off. It's also very easy to know what happens to your character in terms of crowd control and what is killing you.

Although I hate the Cataclysm expansion there is nothing else worth playing at the moment.

Originally posted by Vunak23

Dont confuse most sales with the best. WoW is not the best MMO int he world. It is the most accessible and user friendly, meaning 11 year olds can play it at a competetive level. That doesnt make it the best.

And what would u say, what MMO is the best?

yeah right

well the game itself isnt as bad but its the community that realy sucks BLEEP.

and ofc the security, now a days account r getting hacked by the seconds

Originally posted by Zadawn

Originally posted by jessie360

You're forgetting one thing:

 

most popular =/= best

 

/thread

things/persons/games etc are popular because they are good.

the most popular=the best fullstop

 

No i don't play WoW.

check out the best video on youtube, it has the most views

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4

 !(haha you guys are funny)

Originally posted by Corehaven

World of Warcraft and Blizzard deserves its success.  Maybe they got lucky.  Maybe they're prodigies.  It doesnt really matter. 

Its, as far as I know, the most successful computer game of all time.  I said GAME.  Not even mmo.  Im looking forward to what comes next.  Stopped playing years ago. 

But I have to give Blizzard props.  I did enjoy my time there. 

I would say that there are 2 more succesful games.

The Sims because it got so many people, particularly women that never played a computer game before to start.

Tetris, because no game have been played and cloned more than it. You can find thousands of versions on it just like online javagames.

Wow is surely the most succesful MMO though.

Fair play to Blizzard, WoW is still highly playable. Vanilla models could do with a brush up however. If they gave Jaina Proudmoore a facelift then...

i dont understand why people are saying wow caters to the "least common denominator".

i'm pretty sure 11 million subs is not the "least common".

wow is the best because it appeals to SO MANY people.  11 million people plop their behind down in their computer chair to play wow because you dont need a ridiculous computer to play the game, and it is more "noob" friendly than it has ever been, and i as a veteran am actually somewhat enjoying leveling alts because leveling has been made so fluid compared to what it has been in the past.

so many mmo's have come and so many people have said "THIS WILL BE THE WOW KILLER", and they all have fallen because nobody can make a game as well as blizzard has made with wow.

wow will be no means be brought to its deathbed anytime soon.  it will live out its expected final 2 expansions ON TOP of the mmo world like it has been for the past 6 years.

Best is not defined by popularity it comes down to personal taste and other options.

For example how many people eat at macdonalds everyday? Surely one of the best restaurants in the world? Not to me I prefer some of my local restaurants for a proper meal and would pick subway or a hot potatoe from a guy on a stall for a quick meal.

Originally posted by mchlmacdonal

i dont understand why people are saying wow caters to the "least common denominator".

 I believe the statement refers to giving everything to the player without a lot of effort. Ease of play, mounts, etc. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme = WoW adding (or subtracting) something frequently.

Originally posted by Wicoa

Best is not defined by popularity it comes down to personal taste and other options.

For example how many people eat at macdonalds everyday? Surely one of the best restaurants in the world? Not to me I prefer some of my local restaurants for a proper meal and would pick subway or a hot potatoe from a guy on a stall for a quick meal.

I always thought ppl eat in macdonalds coz its cheap

Originally posted by Digna

Originally posted by mchlmacdonal

i dont understand why people are saying wow caters to the "least common denominator".

 I believe the statement refers to giving everything to the player without a lot of effort. Ease of play, mounts, etc. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme = WoW adding (or subtracting) something frequently.

the game has been made easier to play yes.  if it was still just as hard to play as it was in vanilla/bc it would not be the juggernaught it is today.

that being said, it is still quite a task to level up.  the majority of the players that play wow are casuals, and don't have the time to sit in front of their computer all day and level.  the same with end game.  raids are still fairly hard and require coordination, and it still takes time to get the gear, level the professions, get better at pvp, get better at pve, etc etc.

and the give/take situation is a delicate balancing act in any mmo.  if enough people complain, they implement the change.  it makes more people happy than it does make people upset most of the time.  you can't give everyone what everyone wants in a game like this, so they give what the majority wants, and just brush off the minority that rages and leaves the game because keeping the majority happy is always better for business than keeping the minority happy.

Most popular yes,however Wow is a direct rip off/copycat of Everquest so that is being two faced to call out other developers yet the game he is bragging about is perhaps the worst copy cat there is.

The game that TRULY did not copy and thoguht for themselves was FFXI,they broke many industry standards and created a few ideas that to this day have not been done,the languiage translator for one.

Blizzard introduced a few ideas also,the authenticator is a security thing ,nothing to do with actual game developement.they also brought in cross server grouping ,this is a good idea for sure,but does have drawbacks to community on your own server.

IMO Both Eq and Wow do several things that are good [not great] but there is also MANY ideas which make no sense and to outright copy those ,shows Blizzard to not think at all.One example that really miffs me is questing,EQ did this by giving XP for questing,the most ridiculous idea i ever heard of.I played RPGs from way back and you don't get xp for questing lol.

Oh you delivered my Stein to that npc?Oh great here you go you look more experienced now,here is some xp ..lmao...just dumb.

I made this point because ,YES there are some ideas worth copying from other games,but things liek this ar jsu tdumb to copy,FFXI did NOT need to do this and imo it is the maybe the greatest mmorpg there ever was [not anymore].This is why copying is so bad,even my beloved FFXI has begun to copy cat the easier hand fed game play and totally ruined the best game ever,i do not play it anymore.

Other ideas not worth copying,markers over npcs heads,just lame [not realistic]and treating gamers like babies.Markers on maps to show you exactly where to go,again hand fed babies,why even bother to call it gaming?You don't need to spend money or waste your time to just have it handed to you,why not let your friend do it all and just take over his game when everything is done for you?FFXI did not need to do ANY of these lame copy cat ideas,so Blizzard shoud lkhave taken the OP's advice and learn to think for themselves before blatantly copying Everquest.

Originally posted by kostoslav

I always thought ppl eat in macdonalds coz its cheap

In many countries, like Russia is it actually pretty dang expensive.

I think it is because it is so fast, you usually can go in, get your food and eat it in less than 10 minutes. That is why I eat there sometimes at least. 

Heck, I was in Cuba and eating something there usually took 2 hours or more, even thir only fastfood joint "el rapido" who sold microwave pizza took half an hour.

In Wows case is it probably more to do with the fact that close to all PCs can run it even if the PC is 10 years old. 

WoW is nowhere near Farmville that had 80 million players :D

now its only 36 millions

Originally posted by Wizardry

Most popular yes,however Wow is a direct rip off/copycat of Everquest so that is being two faced to call out other developers yet the game he is bragging about is perhaps the worst copy cat there is.

The game that TRULY did not copy and thoguht for themselves was FFXI,they broke many industry standards and created a few ideas that to this day have not been done,the languiage translator for one.

Blizzard introduced a few ideas also,the authenticator is a security thing ,nothing to do with actual game developement.they also brought in cross server grouping ,this is a good idea for sure,but does have drawbacks to community on your own server.

IMO Both Eq and Wow do several things that are good [not great] but there is also MANY ideas which make no sense and to outright copy those ,shows Blizzard to not think at all.One example that really miffs me is questing,EQ did this by giving XP for questing,the most ridiculous idea i ever heard of.I played RPGs from way back and you don't get xp for questing lol.

Oh you delivered my Stein to that npc?Oh great here you go you look more experienced now,here is some xp ..lmao...just dumb.

I made this point because ,YES there are some ideas worth copying from other games,but things liek this ar jsu tdumb to copy,FFXI did NOT need to do this and imo it is the maybe the greatest mmorpg there ever was [not anymore].This is why copying is so bad,even my beloved FFXI has begun to copy cat the easier hand fed game play and totally ruined the best game ever,i do not play it anymore.

Other ideas not worth copying,markers over npcs heads,just lame [not realistic]and treating gamers like babies.Markers on maps to show you exactly where to go,again hand fed babies,why even bother to call it gaming?You don't need to spend money or waste your time to just have it handed to you,why not let your friend do it all and just take over his game when everything is done for you?FFXI did not need to do ANY of these lame copy cat ideas,so Blizzard shoud lkhave taken the OP's advice and learn to think for themselves before blatantly copying Everquest.

i never played everquest, i was a DAoC guy before wow.  but obviously wow wasn't the "worst" of anything.

it took the ideas from a previously successful game, put their own ideas in the mix, gave it a facelift, and created the most popular online game ever played.

and i never played FFXI either, but i had quite a few friends play it regularly and it did look pretty cool.  but that was a niche playerbase, and while it was successful to that playerbase, it was overshadowed by wow.  nobody has been able to make an mmo that grabs the interest of more people than wow.