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  ropenice

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8/06/11 1:40:01 PM#61

Originally posted by Wrender



Blizzard, er *cough cough* (Activision) can kiss my left nut!



 


Won't your right one get jealous?


  ropenice

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8/06/11 1:50:58 PM#62

Originally posted by Tadzio



It's a very good idea imo, I fully support this.




Its really a matter of having legal RMT vs having illegal RMT.




RMT won't go, if you dont want to use this AH, then don't - they're giving you second AH for gold (in game currency)




 




Either way, in under 3 months chinese stuff will flood all the servers and you will be able to equip whole character for 2-3 bucks lol.



 


That sounds fun. Instead of earning things through achievements, you can buy everything on your first day in game. Why bother to play?


  Abdar

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8/06/11 1:52:16 PM#63

'Chinese farmers' and such were making money off this either way. Thing is now, they don't set the market price for things, the player base does.


Look, times have changed and this isn't 1999. Items were being sold anyways, which in turn contributed to hacked accounts and more resources used up at Blizzard. Do I like the idea of all this? Absolutely not. But it's not Blizzards fault that they need to do this, people need to see that. It was happening anyways, so might as well take a cut and lessen the burden on your tech support. And hell, maybe YOU can make a couple bucks playing a video game!


Same with the offline play. Blame the people who were using hacked/pirated games. Honestly do you think that if none of that was happening, they would still make you be online?


  Sintrix

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Joined: 7/06/05
Posts: 53

8/06/11 1:57:22 PM#64
Who cares if someone is camping in an instanced game? It's not like your even going to see them. I can only guess these people have no idea what diablo is. It's not a persistent world...
  gaeanprayer

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Joined: 8/06/08
Posts: 2360

8/06/11 1:58:08 PM#65

Mmmm...nope. I don't care about the people that are defending it with mention of combating piracy and what have you. That's no different than the current Bills being passed through the senate for ISPs to keep recorded logs of every detail of their customers online habits for a year, just because less than a single digit percentage of the US internet customer base may be internet predators. You don't punish the many to lay down the law on the few. There's not a single good reason for it, sorry. Fail logic thar.


D3 already took far too long to come out, then they create a website and take even longer to finish the bloody game. My interest has waned, and with this, it is completely gone. Fuck you, Blizzard. I didn't feed into the hype when WoW got popular because I saw you for what you were, and I won't feed into it with this. At this point, Blizzard is completely off my radar. There's not a thing they could do to get me to play their games, prior and future.


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  odinsrath

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8/06/11 2:02:29 PM#66
Originally posted by ropenice

Originally posted by Tadzio



It's a very good idea imo, I fully support this.




Its really a matter of having legal RMT vs having illegal RMT.




RMT won't go, if you dont want to use this AH, then don't - they're giving you second AH for gold (in game currency)




 




Either way, in under 3 months chinese stuff will flood all the servers and you will be able to equip whole character for 2-3 bucks lol.



 

That sounds fun. Instead of earning things through achievements, you can buy everything on your first day in game. Why bother to play?

+1

  parrotpholk

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Joined: 1/20/05
Posts: 3317

8/06/11 2:06:13 PM#67

Originally posted by spinner_vis



it's not a grab for cash. it's an Blizzard's attempt to control the market that is built on their own effort. as i really can't see a way to remove item economy from Diablo, it's just a path of lesser evil.




personally, i'm more annoyed by "online play only", but then again i don't have to play itl, so... meh. to be honest, unless gameplay is changed to something else than point-and-click, i don't really want to play it, either.



 


And the RMT companies will adjust and simply profit by also selling on the same AH. Either way this does not solve the problem.  I t just means that blizz gets theirs which is really all this is about.  


  User Deleted
8/06/11 2:09:05 PM#68

This is bullshit in its purest form. {mod edit}

  Abdar

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Joined: 3/20/04
Posts: 402

8/06/11 2:09:41 PM#69

Who gives a shit about the US and their bills/money/invasion off all your privacy crap. The US just got downgraded cause they are so far in debt with no plan to get out. Blizzard makes money hand over first. They know what they are doing when they make a move like this.


Games of all nature are getting pirated. Downloaded, burned onto disk blah blah blah. Companies spend millions of dollars trying to combat it. Screw it, make people log in if they want to play. The internet is everywhere, and if you're one of the .00005% of the people that don't have it that sucks. But you can guarentee Blizzard ran the numbers, the loss of the people without internet via the loss of dollars to piracy is what matters here.


  Lawlmonster

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Joined: 10/07/09
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Take my advice, I'm not using it anyway.

8/06/11 2:15:19 PM#70
Originally posted by Abdar

'Chinese farmers' and such were making money off this either way. Thing is now, they don't set the market price for things, the player base does.


Look, times have changed and this isn't 1999. Items were being sold anyways, which in turn contributed to hacked accounts and more resources used up at Blizzard. Do I like the idea of all this? Absolutely not. But it's not Blizzards fault that they need to do this, people need to see that. It was happening anyways, so might as well take a cut and lessen the burden on your tech support. And hell, maybe YOU can make a couple bucks playing a video game!


Same with the offline play. Blame the people who were using hacked/pirated games. Honestly do you think that if none of that was happening, they would still make you be online?

There are other ways to fix these problems. You don't need to create a real money AH to control the economy or market price for items in your game. Personally, I'm fine with them soulbinding every item drop, and that's a quick way to resolve this issue. It gets rid of trading, but the D2 economy was stupid anyway. Who cares?

 

I'm not saying it's a perfect fix, but that's just one example. They have an entire development studio, supposedly full of creative individuals, so there's no doubt in my mind they could come up with some manner of mechanic other than a real money AH to control gold farming and item selling. Again, it's just proof that they don't really care about creativity or beating the gold farming industry, they were just after a chunk of the change. Plain and simple.

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  Greymantle4

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 776

8/06/11 2:27:58 PM#71

I don't care one way or the other. Nothing changes for me.  I log in, create my private server to play solo or with with my friends and or family. If I get lucky on a rare drop that I or my friends or family don't need I could make some cash off it. Win win in my books. The rest I can sell on the normal AH another win win. 

 

I really don't understand many of these posts. You can still play Diablo 3 the same way you played Diablo 2 other then you need to be connected to bnet at all times. 

  kilun

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Joined: 12/25/07
Posts: 692

8/06/11 2:28:17 PM#72
Originally posted by sldrop

This is a dumb idea.They should come up with idea to stop items selling not add to it. 

This only help the gold seller, they have the most golds/items, most hacks/bots and can do it 24/7.

Nest  thing you know blizzard going to sell gold for real money.

By the way whats going to make blizzard  not sell ITEMS themselves?

 I can see it now 40% item for cash are from gold farmer/seller 50% from bliz and 10% are real players lol

 Come up with an idea that circumvents greed?  Are you joking?  Diablo II items were sold and Blizzard didn't reap any benefits just headaches.

I really do wish people would stop and bloody think for a minute before raging.  What is the Diablo series?  Its a game to where you play have some freedom of choices in the way build your character with goals of either running a boss to hit 99 or run a boss over and over(aka boss run) as fast as possible to get loot.  What is changing for Diablo 3?  Nothing.  Nothing at all.  Its the same formula.  It isn't a freaking MMO so posting crap about EQ2 cash servers is ignorant.

What happened in Diablo II?  Hacks abound and hacked items sold for cash as well as just about every other item.  Even non-hacked items sold for cash.  Why?  Because it took time to obtain things in the game, you could run the same boss 5000k times and get 10 of one item and none of the one you wanted.  So insert trading and RMT.  Blizzard can barely stop hacks for a minute and couldn't do anything to deal with the RMT's going on.

So the obvious answer will lead you to believe that there will be 3rd party sites selling items and they are probably going to be hacked(Obviously a bit less I imagine now).  So what does Blizzard decide is the course of action to take?  Utilize a more secure method of cash transferring.  Nothing more nothing less and taking their own cut of the cash flow for offering the security.

So what would you prefer Blizzard do?  Make everthing bind on pickup and make it into a grindfest MMO wannabe dungeon runner?  Yeah that won't fly part of the fun is trading for an item and finding new items.  They took the only course of action that makes business sense and to help the customer out.  Sure it's going to make the ignorant stay ignorant, but the majority of the people going to be happy it at least alleviates the chance of getting screwed over when dealing with RMT's.  Still do not have to utilize it, but I imagine at some point certain items will be sold for cash only, and with the free come sales you get each week or month or whatnot, you effectively don't have to start with cash flow to make cash to purchase that specific item.

Now how this will affect the MMO market?  How did KAL affect us?  Not in the least bit, ok so this is Acti-Bliz leading the way.  Worst case scenario one of these pop up in games going forward to put the eyesore in place and games ingame economies tumple to nothing more than cash trading for items.  I don't see that happening in true MMO's since the good stuff is still bind on pickup be it items or tokens.

  Faelan

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Oops - looks like I'm an internet dog who somehow learned how to type. What has the world come to?

8/06/11 2:31:39 PM#73

Well, that's one game I don't have to worry about spending my money on. Thankfully, I was never really all that interested in D3 to begin with, so not a huge loss for me. I am however a little concerned about other companies seeing this as some sort of green light for implementing their own version of this diabolic milking scheme.


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  User Deleted
8/06/11 2:33:03 PM#74
Originally posted by Sintrix
Who cares if someone is camping in an instanced game? It's not like your even going to see them. I can only guess these people have no idea what diablo is. It's not a persistent world...

 

  This!  There are SO many uninformed people posting in here (and in other threads)  People reaally need to do a little investigating before opening their mouths and spouting off!  80% of the posts in this thread WOULD be applicable IF this was WOW we were talking about.

 

  It`s not!  It`s Diablo!  There is pretty much nothing similar about them (except you need to be logged into Bnet now)  OMG...I can P2W in a single player game!  That`s outrageous!  That Chinese(or insert whatever nationality here) gold farmer camping spawn points?  He's not in my game, so it doesn't affect me at all (that's even assuming he gets around the region blocks)

 

  Dislike it for what it is, real money trading!  Don't make up arguments without investigating them first though!

  User Deleted
8/06/11 2:34:40 PM#75
Originally posted by Faelan

Well, that's one game I don't have to worry about spending my money on. Thankfully, I was never really all that interested in D3 to begin with, so not a huge loss for me. I am however a little concerned about other companies seeing this as some sort of green light for implementing their own version of this diabolic milking scheme.

 

  As was posted earlier, this is in no way something new.  Yell at Sony (as the first real major player) for starting this off.

  Kreedz

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8/06/11 2:35:55 PM#76

This is what happens when big developers let their ego's get the best of them, they assume all of their games will simply sell if it has their name on it, nevermind if the gameplay is utter crap or that its a constant battle of balance with the games abilities and functions, They could slap their logo on a paper bag full of shyte and people would still buy it.


 


This is a cash grab, no matter what spin they try to put on it, theyre basically accepting the 'gold buying' trend, repackaging it and making it a 'legal' form of it.


 


There are plenty of other games out there and I think its high time people to stand up for their principals, reject this game and find their fun in other games, perhaps in the indie market where developers havnt sold their souls yet.


 


But alas, people are like sheep and they will still buy it because they dont want to be left out the experience if the game is a hit just because 'everyone' else is playing it.


 


At least I will have the satisfaction of knowing I'm not part of the idiot crowd.


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  Fadedbomb

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8/06/11 2:38:13 PM#77

It's a money grab, screw Blizzard. Blizzard has turned into the new SOE with the butchering of the StarCraft franchise (Sc2 was a joke), and now the Diablo franchise with the disregard for the gritty artstyle in favor of kiddies. Now, we see they want even more of the pie (our wallets).


 


I hope Blizzard gets burned BADLY from this move. They just killed off the entire franchise for the next 5 years.


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  User Deleted
8/06/11 2:38:45 PM#78

  So wait...if friends and I buy it because we LIKE Diablo, we're idiots?

 

  Pot...meet kettle!

  cliffsun

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8/06/11 2:40:03 PM#79

 



I know this is somewhere in there already...but I just want to say it again...this is both a real money auction house and there is an in game currency version...as far as items being camped...yeah you might have people who go into the same volume and chapter to get that one really expensive item...but all that will do is drive the prices down on that good item so everyone can afford it at some point...it will also force blizzard to come up with new items to mitigate the curve created by everyone having good gear...and you will never have to confront these bots or farmers...because this isnt lineage 2...this is Diablo...remember how diablo works?


  Robokapp

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8/06/11 2:40:51 PM#80
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 (Sc2 was a joke), .

 http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ESLTV%20Blizzard

 

funny. I'm watching a very serious european tournament live right now.

 

where's the funny part?

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