Well, this is not going to effect me in any way. If someone wants to pay for pixel swords, that is their business.

I would just add one thing. Relating to the poll regarding the third-party issue. A third-party website, especially one dedicated to a kind of service, can be as, if not more, secure as any site Blizzard puts up. Naturally, if you are a retard who purchases from an unknown site simply because the price is too good to be true, well it probably is.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

I am sorry but i would like to know how Bioware sold out with DA2? they made some weird design decisions which didn't work out and it happens all the time in gaming industry. You can not expect a perfect track record, from any company. There is always this thing called 'human error'.  I don't think any dev would want such supporters who give up on them after one mess up.

well...   calling DA2 a "human error" is like saying "NASA forgot to install the solid rocket booster engine on the space shuttle on launch day" a "human error":D  unless YOU don't think it was THAT obvious of a mistake?:D 

you can only blame so much on human error before it's classified as "yah, they did that on purpose cuz they sold out to EA and EA wanted to protect their investment in SWTOR so they diverted all the programmers to SWTOR instead...":D

well, i'll still be looking forward to how ME3 comes out, but i think their "pre order" numbers will definately be hurt this time around:)

Originally posted by psyclum

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

I am sorry but i would like to know how Bioware sold out with DA2? they made some weird design decisions which didn't work out and it happens all the time in gaming industry. You can not expect a perfect track record, from any company. There is always this thing called 'human error'.  I don't think any dev would want such supporters who give up on them after one mess up.

well...   calling DA2 a "human error" is like saying "NASA forgot to install the solid rocket booster engine on the space shuttle on launch day" a "human error":D  unless YOU don't think it was THAT obvious of a mistake?:D 

you can only blame so much on human error before it's classified as "yah, they did that on purpose cuz they sold out to EA and EA wanted to protect their investment in SWTOR so they diverted all the programmers to SWTOR instead...":D

well, i'll still be looking forward to how ME3 comes out, but i think their "pre order" numbers will definately be hurt this time around:)

Sorry but that analogy makes no sense.  Because DA2 was working right out of the box so i have no idea how it can be compared to missing rocket booster engine on launch day. More like a broken space toilet i would say. You make it sound as if DA2 was a broken mess and didn't even install on your hard drive.

When I first heard about it I was stunned, and after several seconds I became indifferent. Diablo has always had people who sell items for cash, the fact that they are going to make it safe and secure to do so would be well worth them getting a cut if you choose to do so. So many of you are acting like this will be forced upon you or something. You do realize there will also be a seperate AH using gold right? And Im betting alot of people wont even use that. Get over it already.

About time this enter the gaming industry. Why should the chineses farmers and scumbag sites have this market share for them self and not the primary involved gamers.

All you rmt haters will be chocked what the futere will bring into games. Business sells. It's gonna be business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBrESZJlNvQ

lol u can sell gold for real money too

also if u sell a item bliz will charge u 3X before u get ur money lol 

FUN STUFF

Well since someone brought it up, Biowar€(a)

DA 2 utter crap and even BW devs admitted they didn't have enough time, cause of €A pressure. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6465400/1

Mass Effect 3 has been delayed due too €A wanting more action, less RPG (so even more FPS style than  ME 2  already had). http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/04/mass-effect-3-delayed/

DA 1 has also been delayed cause €A  wanted the launch day being the same on all plattforms. http://www.shacknews.com/article/57070/dragon-age-origins-pc-delayed

I think we don't need to talk about Blizzard, everyone know they are Activi$ioned (supporting RMT, removing deep gameplay in ALL  games,  horrible customer support, no mods, singleplayer, lan).

Wanna know the reason why? Look here http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/31/report-activision-reshuffles-execs-in-us-uk-layoffs-result/

conclusion both studios aren't free to do what they did best years ago,  they are  now victims of modern sweatshop corperation and we all know €A and Activi$ion are as evil as it gets.

So forget the Blizzard and Bioware stuff we all loved, both studios will never be the same unless the kick out their owners...

Most diablo fan boys will support almost anything blizzard does. jeez they put up with WOW all these years they will support this also. I guess they don't see what else it will allow in the game down the road,they just wanna play D3.

This is just the start if this is allowed by the fans. it will be the start of something game changing in my view.

Originally posted by jeremyjodes

Most diablo fan boys will support almost anything blizzard does. jeez they put up with WOW all these years they will support this also. I guess they don't see what else it will allow in the game down the road,they just wanna play D3.

This is just the start if this is allowed by the fans. it will be the start of something game changing in my view.

Honestly, this might be a good thing (at least for us consumers). This is almost exactly like what happened with SOE. They used to be a pretty popular company (though that was so long ago. most MMO players dont remember). However, SOE started getting greedy with their games, pulling out more and more obvious ploys to try and milk cash out of their games. Now people don't buy games just because it's backed by SOE. This tends to happen with larger franchizes. They don't generally lose out to another franchize, but rather gradually lose steam / drop the ball themselves. Thus giving other companies some breathing room to actually produce good, competitive products.

How good/bad this is all comes down to how effectively they combat botters, something they didn't do worth a crap in d2.

It seems that most fans are not only indifferent to this subject, but are actually pro RMT. Looks like Blizz can really do anything they like. Oh well..

Since Blizz now control the flow of money in and out of the account they will easily see who is a bot. If some average Joe in Europe is handling huge money transactions they can investigate and see why.

Never bought anything in d2, or well in any game. I'm cheap and i just dont like supporting sweatshops/botters. I'm more concerned about how repeatative the game will be, d2 got so damn annoying with the generated dungeons, having to find my way through stupid lil areas over and over to get to the good drops /xp. Sure it's fun the first time after that it's just tiresome.

In regards to online only, i dont really care, when i played d2 i was online, but i dont get why they dont copy the same model from d2 where u had non bnet characters, where u could play with mods and stuff when u were bored. now people will jsut play a different game i guess when they want that, unless it changes.

Originally posted by AKASlaphappy

Originally posted by UrzaElent

Replies like these really make my day, time for some fun. Lets start with your first rant. A real simple fix for that issure would be to put some type of hidden serial numbering system on items when they are picked up that Blizz can track. Heres a pretend case. I get hacked and my gear gets jacked. Blizz makes a log of the serial numbers of the gear that was linked to my account when it was hacked and starts tracking them to see when they pop up. Hacker puts my stolen gear on the AH and bam, Blizz catches him when when the numbers for the stolen gear pops up on the AH. Hell if the always on internet setup they are going to put in they wouldnt even have to wait that long, just do a scan on the server and find the numbers that way.

 

Now onto youre second paragraph. So you said so yourself you have no interest in either the game or the company that is making it so why go into a thread about a game and a company that you have no interest in other than to be a troll with no life who doesnt add anything positive or constructive to the conversation at all?

 

Last paragraph and my favorite. Love how these no life, spineless, have to hide inside cause they will melt if hit by sunlight trolls love to talk @Q%^!. First,wtf do you care if or how much any one uses the real cash AH in D3? Remember, you dont care about the game anyways and its not like you're gonna be playing it so how about you just put your fist in your mouth and just stfu, kay? As for the whole wimps comment, that must have taken some huge balls bro to go online and talk shit while hiding in your mommas basement on your computer. At least you did something worth while and gave me something to laugh with my buddies about, tyvm, byebye, :). Always love the chance to troll a troll.

Well the first part is a possibility, but if that is so easy to do why have they not done it on WoW. Believe it or not accounts still get hacked on WoW. Who knows maybe they will introduce something like this in the future.

 

Oh yes because anyone that posts that does not share your view is a troll. Maybe I posted because I am interested in gaming and what Blizzard is doing with their digital e-bay is going to eventually affect all of gaming if it is successful. But do not hurt your brain with that one; I would not want your “everyone that is not a fan of Blizzard and share your views is a low life” theory to end here. Also I think it is funny that you think posting on an internet forum and being a self-righteous fan doesn’t make you a low life. We have different definitions of the word apparently.   

 

Yes but I do care how it is going to effect the industry! Is that really so hard for your small brain, that thinks cussing every other word makes you cool, to understand? How about you take your own advice since the only one I see trolling here is you, MR. tough guy! And the bad part is I wasted my time to respond to you twice now because I thought you were an adult, and not a child. Well now I know better, thanks for clearing that up.

 

 

 

LOL, love it when trolls cry troll. So your idea of a response is to come into a thread that you make perfectly clear you couldnt care less about, add nothing to the conversation/debate or positive value and then end your sad little rant about how others are wimps if they dont behave the way you want them to. Here's a little bit of advice, if you dont want to be treated like a little s*&^%, dont act like one in the first place.

I dont think this will stop the 3rd party AH . Why would people give bliz their cut?

There a fee to put item  in AH, a fee when the item sold and a fee to withdraw your money.

I im sorry all those fee add up. I bet its way cheaper to buy from a 3rd party and make more money selling to 3rd party.

Originally posted by sldrop

I dont think this will stop the 3rd party AH . Why would people give bliz their cut?

There a fee to put item  in AH, a fee when the item sold and a fee to withdraw your money.

I im sorry all those fee add up. I bet its way cheaper to buy from a 3rd party and make more money selling to 3rd party.

I wouldn't give them a cut that's for sure.   Well at least I won't be buying D3 to support them.

Originally posted by UrzaElent

 

 

LOL, love it when trolls cry troll. So your idea of a response is to come into a thread that you make perfectly clear you couldnt care less about, add nothing to the conversation/debate or positive value and then end your sad little rant about how others are wimps if they dont behave the way you want them to. Here's a little bit of advice, if you dont want to be treated like a little s*&^%, dont act like one in the first place.

Originally posted by razrwolf

When I first heard about it I was stunned, and after several seconds I became indifferent. Diablo has always had people who sell items for cash, the fact that they are going to make it safe and secure to do so would be well worth them getting a cut if you choose to do so. So many of you are acting like this will be forced upon you or something. You do realize there will also be a seperate AH using gold right? And Im betting alot of people wont even use that. Get over it already.

If you mean they won't use the in-game auction house, I agree.  Anything of actual value will go up for RMT because the lure of easy money will see to it.  What you'll see in the in-game house will be the trash.

Besides, this makes a difference how?  The farming operations will continue to do what they always have, except now they'll they'll have a much larger market to sell to, their activities have been authorized by Blizz/Act and they won't even need to put up and maintain their own web presence to run their filthy business.  The game now gives them the means to sell their cheap loot with a sizable reduction to overhead, so long as they pay their 'taxes'.  Big win for them, same shit for us.

Actually, the only real difference between now and before is that Blizz/Act gets to reap sizable profits from what was once considered to be an illegitimate activity.  Also, a big win for them.

This change is completely self-serving and in no way improves the quality of the game for anyone *except* those losers who would have had to take a big risk by dealing with illegal farming operations online because they were willing to buy their way to victory.  This protects the cheating scum more than it protects players who were honest to start with.  Why the hell is this considered a good thing by players?