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Garrett Fuller takes a look at the buzz generated by ArcheAge, and questions whether the game's sandbox systems such as player trials really can work in practice.
Read the rest of Garrett Fuller's ArcheAge: The Trial System Concerns. |
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atticusbc
Hard Core Member
Joined: 9/22/07
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7/22/11 8:18:57 AM#2
honestly, if they do it right to begin with, i think it will interesting to see the exploiters and the idealists clash. i mean the system would have to be done right, but i can see eve-style emergent gameplay coming out of this if it is. of course the trick to this is letting the players have the greater part of control over how the system plays out. |
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7/22/11 10:01:37 AM#3
They better have a US Release. I've been excited about this game for quite some time.
SOE should just buy it, change a few skins, and call it EQ3. |
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7/22/11 10:15:26 AM#4
I say good luck getting the player trail to work with the American crowd, even more so this game being a PVP game. It will be an abused feature in the player hate player wars that always a side affect of rival pvp communties. Much like how the fans of a You Tube channel will mass vote the offensive button some somebody who against that channels creator.
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7/22/11 10:58:32 AM#5
it will be interesting, I imagine the trial system will be automated somehow, based on votes on something like that. |
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7/22/11 11:41:20 AM#6
I wouldn't mind seeing someone like NCSoft picking it up. They do right to their developers and let them do what they need to. |
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7/22/11 12:26:08 PM#7
Until they close the game down for not making as much money as they think it should (regardless of whether or not it's profitable). With regards to the trial system, I see it being heavily abused without really adding to the game. -------- The most awesomest after school special T-shirt: |
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7/22/11 12:47:27 PM#8
That would kill this game faster than almost anything else. SOE hasn't recovered from it's negative rep from SWG and add in their recent issues with security and ArchAge wouldn't have a chance.
No, SOE is the LAST thing ArchAge needs to have any dealings with. "Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..." |
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7/22/11 12:51:39 PM#9
That has nothing to do with an "American Crowd". Same issue would happen with any country's crowd. Case in point your reference to Youtube which is not an American only accessed site. People from all over the world, including your neighbors, access and vote on that site. "Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..." |
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7/22/11 12:54:09 PM#10
Originally posted by depain
I actually agree with this statement. While many people are now scared of SOE this seems to be the type of sandbox/themepark hybrid that many of us expect EQ Next to be. |
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7/22/11 12:59:43 PM#11
Ugh, SOE would be an albatross ... They have been going down hill for a long time. I'm really interested to see how ArcheAge plays out. I'd certainly like to take a peak at it. |
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7/22/11 1:10:35 PM#12
EA should publish Archeage, they will make more money than with SWTOR |
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7/22/11 1:46:23 PM#13
Was really looking forward to this one. To bad another sandbox going down the "Oh it's a sandbox it has to have FFA pvp". Anyone else tired of hearing "if done right"? No system will ever be done right because it is impossible to predict the ingenuity of people desire to act like asses. |
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7/22/11 4:52:30 PM#14
With a true free for all that encourages group prosecution this will be an exercise in barbarism and corruption. Put on your +5 ring versus Butt-Hurt and it should be an awesome game. You want to throw away your money developing something stupid, go ahead. |
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Elikal
Spotlight Poster
Joined: 2/09/06
“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth |
7/22/11 4:59:44 PM#15
Each to his, but a FFA-PVP is not for me. I loved the other ideas about ArchAge, but I don't want a PVP game. I want to do my PVE in peace. So it's a pity but as long as they don't announced PVE-servers I pass. The trials are only the cherry on top of the No-No. "Things weren't better in the past. But a lot of things were GOOD, and they would STILL be, if people had stopped the fuck messing around with them!" |
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7/22/11 5:12:23 PM#16
Originally posted by Venger I agree with you. Why not make the pvp a choice? |
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7/22/11 5:26:52 PM#17
Jake song was one of the people behind nexus. they had a trial system in that game, that seemed to be pretty interesting. Not sure how this one is supposed to be, but It seems different and I like different. I also like PVP tbh... |
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7/22/11 5:32:08 PM#18
The only case I will not play Archeage is if SOE buys the game. I promise you all not to play the game if SOE buys it. |
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7/22/11 6:05:15 PM#19
Originally posted by Sandbox If you looked around a bit, you might have realized its supposed to be ffa pvp on the third island, not the first two. Think of the third island as 0.0 sec |
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Vesavius
Old School
Joined: 3/08/04
Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
7/22/11 7:15:27 PM#20
Seeing as the trial system only appears at this time to be to semi control own faction killing, and has no effect on other factions (inc the Reds) from ganking you 24/7 while you try and harvest your crops and build your house, this game is looking to be an ugly outright gankfest set in very pretty world. XL need to start talking about the alternate server types they would entertain to stay attractive to a lot of western folks imo. |