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  Ihmotepp

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7/07/11 7:41:32 PM#61
Originally posted by C-B-M

That's the problem with your position.  Your idea of "responsibility" is limited to "she's responsible for deciding whether she wants an abortion or not."  Her responsibility in preventing pregnancy if she doesn't want to be become pregnant is completely incomprehensible to you.  That's why there's never going to be a "compromise" on abortion.  People like you don't recognize the responsibility of the woman BEFORE she becomes pregnant.  She can do anything she wants and then now that she's pregnant you're like "ok, let's be adults and sit down and decide whether we want to abort the baby."

 

No, you're respnsible for YOUR reproductive organs, not hers.

That's YOUR position, so YOU should follow it.

If you think abortion is so bad, then don't get a woman pregant without discussing wheter or not she want's to have a baby with you.

HER responsibility is whats best for her, not what's best to make you happy. 

There is no responsibility for a woman not to get pregant. Also, she could decide to have a baby, then change her mind. Because it's her womb, not yours.

You're just making up this "her responsibility not to get pregnant" crap, becasue you can't get pregnant. It's so very easy to do things to other human beings, when they can't be done to you. Like making black people slaves, when you're white.

It's her womb, not yours, sorry you don't control it.

You control your penis. It's yours, and you can do whatever you want with it, that's legal.

If you want to worry about something, worry about that.

  C-B-M

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Posts: 2661

7/07/11 7:55:05 PM#62

Every single thing you said there is laughable.  All you said is "she can do whatever she wants and then when she gets pregnant she can abort the baby."  And that's your idea of "being responsible."

  Ihmotepp

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7/07/11 7:56:41 PM#63
Originally posted by C-B-M

Every single thing you said there is laughable.  All you said is "she can do whatever she wants and then when she gets pregnant she can abort the baby."  And that's your idea of "being responsible."

 

Yes, it is. It's her womb. She has to decide what's best to do with it.

It's your penis.

You can decide what's best to do with that.

Or if you have a womb, then you decide what's best for YOUR womb, not someone elses.

  C-B-M

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7/07/11 8:00:02 PM#64

See, all I had to do is continue with it long enough and at the end of it we get your actual position.  How hard was that?  LOL.

  Ihmotepp

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Joined: 10/28/08
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7/07/11 8:08:19 PM#65
Originally posted by C-B-M

See, all I had to do is continue with it long enough and at the end of it we get your actual position.  How hard was that?  LOL.

 

It's the same position it's been all along.

You don't have the right to control a woman's womb.

You don't have the right to make a determination what is "responsible" for her, since it's not your womb.

  User Deleted
7/07/11 10:40:09 PM#66
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I don't understand the fascination with this case.

I havent' followed it, and have no real desire to watch any of the coverage. If I'm watching the news and coverage of the case comes on, I usually change the channel.

 Nice to see i am not the only one, it seems that every year a case like this comes out and we suffer 24/7 news coverage of said event while there are more important issues that need addressing and reporting of.

I think it is a sad state of affairs that person's even bother watching this type of news with anything more than a passing glance....

  Ihmotepp

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Posts: 14557

7/07/11 10:43:55 PM#67
Originally posted by BushMonkey
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I don't understand the fascination with this case.

I havent' followed it, and have no real desire to watch any of the coverage. If I'm watching the news and coverage of the case comes on, I usually change the channel.

 Nice to see i am not the only one, it seems that every year a case like this comes out and we suffer 24/7 news coverage of said event while there are more important issues that need addressing and reporting of.

I think it is a sad state of affairs that person's even bother watching this type of news with anything more than a passing glance....

 

It's a type of entertainment that some people, well not jsut some, a LOT, do like.

After all Nancy Grace has a whole show that is nothing but coverage of cases like this.

I don't understand how anyone could be interested in such a show, but it's quite popular.

I don't see how anyone coudl watch 5 minutes of Nancy Grace doing anything.

  User Deleted
7/07/11 11:06:48 PM#68
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by BushMonkey
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I don't understand the fascination with this case.

I havent' followed it, and have no real desire to watch any of the coverage. If I'm watching the news and coverage of the case comes on, I usually change the channel.

 Nice to see i am not the only one, it seems that every year a case like this comes out and we suffer 24/7 news coverage of said event while there are more important issues that need addressing and reporting of.

I think it is a sad state of affairs that person's even bother watching this type of news with anything more than a passing glance....

 

It's a type of entertainment that some people, well not jsut some, a LOT, do like.

After all Nancy Grace has a whole show that is nothing but coverage of cases like this.

I don't understand how anyone could be interested in such a show, but it's quite popular.

I don't see how anyone coudl watch 5 minutes of Nancy Grace doing anything.

Maybe they are either:

  1. People who find her attractive, or...
  2. Pot heads who are too stoned to change the channel, or...
  3. People tripping on acid and they find her show gives the best psychodelic expierience.
  User Deleted
7/07/11 11:08:25 PM#69
Originally posted by BushMonkey
Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I don't understand the fascination with this case.

I havent' followed it, and have no real desire to watch any of the coverage. If I'm watching the news and coverage of the case comes on, I usually change the channel.

 Nice to see i am not the only one, it seems that every year a case like this comes out and we suffer 24/7 news coverage of said event while there are more important issues that need addressing and reporting of.

I think it is a sad state of affairs that person's even bother watching this type of news with anything more than a passing glance....

Luckily I very rarely watch TV anymore.  And, when I do, none of these cases are even on the shows I watch.

  kobie173

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Joined: 8/05/06
Posts: 2240

7/09/11 7:25:30 AM#70

I'm with Ihmotepp on this one. I couldn't give less of a floating shit about Casey Anthony. Sure, she looks like a decent piece of ass, and you know she's DTF, but man ... she had guilty written all over her.

MY ISSUE with the trial (or, rather, its coverage) is that certain individuals in the media (*cough*Nancy Grace*cough*) seem to only care for due process (which Ms. Anthony received, whether or not you agree with the verdict) only when someone gets acquitted. Nancy Grace, that vile reptile, has NO interest in justice. She just hates crime (nothing wrong with that) and feels that anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is charged should be found guilty. She's driven wrongfully accused people to suicide with her incessant badgering and slander.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace#Suicide_of_interviewee_Melinda_Duckett

If I were Casey Anthony, and thank goodness I'm not, I would sue Nancy Grace for defamation YESTERDAY. And I'm pretty sure I'd win.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  Finwe

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Joined: 7/15/03
Posts: 3112

All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

7/09/11 8:31:02 AM#71
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by C-B-M
Originally posted by Vato26

Rape baby...... ohh, your argument went up in flames.

Ha ha ha.  Look, Vato realized how retarded his argument was, so he immediately did the usual liberal thing and said "rape!"  Because we ALL know that rape babies are the reason 99.9% of women have abortions.  LOLZER.

I bet his mom smoked when she was pregnant.

Yet, you are generalizing on all pregnancy cases.  Thus, my point still stands and still destroys your Ultra-Conservative's grasp of taking away a woman's right to their own body.

They're infringing on another human beings right when they choose to abort.

 

So you have to choose.

I choose the woman's right to privacy over the rights of the fetus, in reasonable circumstances. FOr me, reasonable would be what was historically allowed during the founding of the US, abortion before the "quickening".

Also agree that christian conservatives and those on the far rights are hypocrites when it comes to supporting less government, and freedom;

Less government!

Unless it's about controlling a woman's body, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about the drug war, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about teaching Creationism in schools, then we want MORE government!

Ok. Quit trolling the christian right and stay on subject for one damn minute. It's obnoxious.

To the point of what is on hand.

There's a say, your freedom ends, where my nose begins. For you to choose the "Privacy" A.K.A. Convenience of women who do not understand responsibility, over the life of a human being, is despicable, and is the beginning to an anarchist societ when morality is flipped upside down.

 

A woman's right to choose is HER RESPONSIBLITY not yours.

She only has a right to choose when it involves only her. But it doesn't. It also involves the unborn child. So...

It's her womb, not yours.

You can do whatever you want with YOUR womb.

Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. I don't see how it started any anarchist society.

And more unborn children have been murdered in 38 years than the genocides by stalin or hitler combined.

Also...I said beginning. And it has shown. When people have no moral responsibility. Law means nothing.

 

Responsibility

: the quality or state of being responsible: as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : reliability, trustworthiness
2
: something for which one is responsible : burden responsibilities>

 

 

I don't see anything in there that gives you the right to control a womans womb. Its being responsible morally or legally. It's LEGAL to have an abortion.

So what if it's legal? Slavery has been legal. Controlled rape has been illegal. Genocide has been legal.

And people have to be responsible to THEIR  morals, not YOURS.

Anyone who doesn't consider murder immoral has no morals.

Making people responsible for YOUR morals?

Well, move to Iran. That's what they do with Sharia Law.

Uh. Are you completely obtuse? That's every country. The elite decide "the morals" of the many.

Abortion is illegal in Iran.

Maybe you'll like it there.

 

"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis

"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979

  Ihmotepp

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Joined: 10/28/08
Posts: 14557

7/09/11 9:08:53 AM#72
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by C-B-M
Originally posted by Vato26

Rape baby...... ohh, your argument went up in flames.

Ha ha ha.  Look, Vato realized how retarded his argument was, so he immediately did the usual liberal thing and said "rape!"  Because we ALL know that rape babies are the reason 99.9% of women have abortions.  LOLZER.

I bet his mom smoked when she was pregnant.

Yet, you are generalizing on all pregnancy cases.  Thus, my point still stands and still destroys your Ultra-Conservative's grasp of taking away a woman's right to their own body.

They're infringing on another human beings right when they choose to abort.

 

So you have to choose.

I choose the woman's right to privacy over the rights of the fetus, in reasonable circumstances. FOr me, reasonable would be what was historically allowed during the founding of the US, abortion before the "quickening".

Also agree that christian conservatives and those on the far rights are hypocrites when it comes to supporting less government, and freedom;

Less government!

Unless it's about controlling a woman's body, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about the drug war, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about teaching Creationism in schools, then we want MORE government!

Ok. Quit trolling the christian right and stay on subject for one damn minute. It's obnoxious.

To the point of what is on hand.

There's a say, your freedom ends, where my nose begins. For you to choose the "Privacy" A.K.A. Convenience of women who do not understand responsibility, over the life of a human being, is despicable, and is the beginning to an anarchist societ when morality is flipped upside down.

 

A woman's right to choose is HER RESPONSIBLITY not yours.

She only has a right to choose when it involves only her. But it doesn't. It also involves the unborn child. So...

It's her womb, not yours.

You can do whatever you want with YOUR womb.

Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. I don't see how it started any anarchist society.

And more unborn children have been murdered in 38 years than the genocides by stalin or hitler combined.

Also...I said beginning. And it has shown. When people have no moral responsibility. Law means nothing.

 

Responsibility

: the quality or state of being responsible: as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : reliability, trustworthiness
2
: something for which one is responsible : burden responsibilities>

 

 

I don't see anything in there that gives you the right to control a womans womb. Its being responsible morally or legally. It's LEGAL to have an abortion.

So what if it's legal? Slavery has been legal. Controlled rape has been illegal. Genocide has been legal.

And people have to be responsible to THEIR  morals, not YOURS.

Anyone who doesn't consider murder immoral has no morals.

Making people responsible for YOUR morals?

Well, move to Iran. That's what they do with Sharia Law.

Uh. Are you completely obtuse? That's every country. The elite decide "the morals" of the many.

Abortion is illegal in Iran.

Maybe you'll like it there.

 

 

Seriously, I think you might be happier in Iran. It's a theocracy, and they control women. I think that's what you want.

It's not going to happen in the US, but it does exist in Iran.

rape not equal abortion.

murder not equal abortion.

Slavery not equal abortion.

No one is buying those retarded attempts to hide your real agenda, control of a woman's womb.

If you want to control something, why don't you worry about your penis?

If you want that control it DOES exist. In Iran. Iran controls women, they are not equal to men, and abortion is illegal.

I suggest you move there if that's the kind of society you want to live in.

  User Deleted
7/09/11 10:45:33 AM#73
Originally posted by kobie173

I'm with Ihmotepp on this one. I couldn't give less of a floating shit about Casey Anthony. Sure, she looks like a decent piece of ass, and you know she's DTF, but man ... she had guilty written all over her.

MY ISSUE with the trial (or, rather, its coverage) is that certain individuals in the media (*cough*Nancy Grace*cough*) seem to only care for due process (which Ms. Anthony received, whether or not you agree with the verdict) only when someone gets acquitted. Nancy Grace, that vile reptile, has NO interest in justice. She just hates crime (nothing wrong with that) and feels that anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who is charged should be found guilty. She's driven wrongfully accused people to suicide with her incessant badgering and slander.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace#Suicide_of_interviewee_Melinda_Duckett

If I were Casey Anthony, and thank goodness I'm not, I would sue Nancy Grace for defamation YESTERDAY. And I'm pretty sure I'd win.

How funny would it have been if criminal charges had been brought up against Nancy Grace on the suicide of Melinda Duckett?  Nancy would've been up a shit creek without a paddle.  As, if she still aired her show, she'd have to claim herself as guilty or look like a hypocrite in the world's eyes.  Especially since she has a vast history of jumping the gun and assuming guilty over innocent.

  Gazenthia

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7/09/11 11:20:58 PM#74
Originally posted by Zindaihas

I've been trying to avoid coverage of this case wherever possible, so I cannot personally express shock at the outcome, but most of the analysts are in disbelief.  Was the evidence against her that strong?  If it was and she got away with murder, then you have to wonder about the competence of the average American juror.  The OJ trial was a fiasco and if this one was the same, it does not bode well for the American judical system.

The evidence against her was that strong, and one of the jurors has already come out to say that Not Guilty =/= Innocent. Like what most have speculated, there was a problem with the prosecutors case being mismanaged. Furthermore, they were going for the death penalty, where jurors are less likely to convict anybody regardless.

 

Still more, there are apparently at least FOUR men that may be Caylees father. However...

 

They are ALL dead.

 

The biggest suspect died in a car accident.

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  Finwe

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7/10/11 12:28:55 AM#75
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by C-B-M
Originally posted by Vato26

Rape baby...... ohh, your argument went up in flames.

Ha ha ha.  Look, Vato realized how retarded his argument was, so he immediately did the usual liberal thing and said "rape!"  Because we ALL know that rape babies are the reason 99.9% of women have abortions.  LOLZER.

I bet his mom smoked when she was pregnant.

Yet, you are generalizing on all pregnancy cases.  Thus, my point still stands and still destroys your Ultra-Conservative's grasp of taking away a woman's right to their own body.

They're infringing on another human beings right when they choose to abort.

 

So you have to choose.

I choose the woman's right to privacy over the rights of the fetus, in reasonable circumstances. FOr me, reasonable would be what was historically allowed during the founding of the US, abortion before the "quickening".

Also agree that christian conservatives and those on the far rights are hypocrites when it comes to supporting less government, and freedom;

Less government!

Unless it's about controlling a woman's body, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about the drug war, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about teaching Creationism in schools, then we want MORE government!

Ok. Quit trolling the christian right and stay on subject for one damn minute. It's obnoxious.

To the point of what is on hand.

There's a say, your freedom ends, where my nose begins. For you to choose the "Privacy" A.K.A. Convenience of women who do not understand responsibility, over the life of a human being, is despicable, and is the beginning to an anarchist societ when morality is flipped upside down.

 

A woman's right to choose is HER RESPONSIBLITY not yours.

She only has a right to choose when it involves only her. But it doesn't. It also involves the unborn child. So...

It's her womb, not yours.

You can do whatever you want with YOUR womb.

Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. I don't see how it started any anarchist society.

And more unborn children have been murdered in 38 years than the genocides by stalin or hitler combined.

Also...I said beginning. And it has shown. When people have no moral responsibility. Law means nothing.

 

Responsibility

: the quality or state of being responsible: as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : reliability, trustworthiness
2
: something for which one is responsible : burden responsibilities>

 

 

I don't see anything in there that gives you the right to control a womans womb. Its being responsible morally or legally. It's LEGAL to have an abortion.

So what if it's legal? Slavery has been legal. Controlled rape has been illegal. Genocide has been legal.

And people have to be responsible to THEIR  morals, not YOURS.

Anyone who doesn't consider murder immoral has no morals.

Making people responsible for YOUR morals?

Well, move to Iran. That's what they do with Sharia Law.

Uh. Are you completely obtuse? That's every country. The elite decide "the morals" of the many.

Abortion is illegal in Iran.

Maybe you'll like it there.

 

 

Seriously, I think you might be happier in Iran. It's a theocracy, and they control women. I think that's what you want.

It's not going to happen in the US, but it does exist in Iran.

rape not equal abortion.

murder not equal abortion.

Slavery not equal abortion.

No one is buying those retarded attempts to hide your real agenda, control of a woman's womb.

If you want to control something, why don't you worry about your penis?

If you want that control it DOES exist. In Iran. Iran controls women, they are not equal to men, and abortion is illegal.

I suggest you move there if that's the kind of society you want to live in.

 

This whole, "Move to iran" bit is tiresome and is a sign of a lazy attempt at debate.

Stating, "It's not going to happen in the US", is so laughable. Fact is, before 1973, it was happening in the U.S. Before the supreme court UNCONSTITUTIONALLY OVERTURNED, states right. Surprise!

Murder...Does equal abortion, it's the same damn thing.

 

And what is your obsession about a woman's womb? NO ONE CARES ABOUT A WOMANS WOMB! Except you...Because you seem RIDICULOUSLY obsessed with womens wombs.

Here. Let's close this argument with this quote.

"I was sitting in O.R.'s offices when I noticed a fetal development poster. The progression was so obvious, the eyes were so sweet. It hurt my heart, just looking at them. I ran outside and finally, it dawned on me. 'Norma', I said to myself, 'They're right'. I had worked with pregnant women for years. I had been through three pregnancies and deliveries myself. I should have known. Yet something in that poster made me lose my breath. I kept seeing the picture of that tiny, 10-week-old embryo, and I said to myself, that's a baby! It's as if blinders just fell off my eyes and I suddenly understood the truth — that's a baby!

I felt crushed under the truth of this realization. I had to face up to the awful reality. Abortion wasn't about 'products of conception'. It wasn't about 'missed periods'. It was about children being killed in their mother's wombs. All those years I was wrong. Signing that affidavit, I was wrong. Working in an abortion clinic, I was wrong. No more of this first trimester, second trimester, third trimester stuff. Abortion — at any point — was wrong. It was so clear. Painfully clear"

- Norma McCorvey

If you don't know who Norma McCorvey, she's more popularly known as Jane Roe.

Even the woman that in 1969 attemptedly lied to doctors in texas to try to get a legal abortion, and then was used as a pawn by Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, later in life recognized the error of her ways, and even attempted to get the same supreme court decision she was responsible for, overturned.

"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis

"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979

  Ihmotepp

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7/10/11 8:53:52 AM#76
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Finwe
Originally posted by Vato26
Originally posted by C-B-M
Originally posted by Vato26

Rape baby...... ohh, your argument went up in flames.

Ha ha ha.  Look, Vato realized how retarded his argument was, so he immediately did the usual liberal thing and said "rape!"  Because we ALL know that rape babies are the reason 99.9% of women have abortions.  LOLZER.

I bet his mom smoked when she was pregnant.

Yet, you are generalizing on all pregnancy cases.  Thus, my point still stands and still destroys your Ultra-Conservative's grasp of taking away a woman's right to their own body.

They're infringing on another human beings right when they choose to abort.

 

So you have to choose.

I choose the woman's right to privacy over the rights of the fetus, in reasonable circumstances. FOr me, reasonable would be what was historically allowed during the founding of the US, abortion before the "quickening".

Also agree that christian conservatives and those on the far rights are hypocrites when it comes to supporting less government, and freedom;

Less government!

Unless it's about controlling a woman's body, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about the drug war, then we want MORE government!

Less government!

Unless it's about teaching Creationism in schools, then we want MORE government!

Ok. Quit trolling the christian right and stay on subject for one damn minute. It's obnoxious.

To the point of what is on hand.

There's a say, your freedom ends, where my nose begins. For you to choose the "Privacy" A.K.A. Convenience of women who do not understand responsibility, over the life of a human being, is despicable, and is the beginning to an anarchist societ when morality is flipped upside down.

 

A woman's right to choose is HER RESPONSIBLITY not yours.

She only has a right to choose when it involves only her. But it doesn't. It also involves the unborn child. So...

It's her womb, not yours.

You can do whatever you want with YOUR womb.

Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. I don't see how it started any anarchist society.

And more unborn children have been murdered in 38 years than the genocides by stalin or hitler combined.

Also...I said beginning. And it has shown. When people have no moral responsibility. Law means nothing.

 

Responsibility

: the quality or state of being responsible: as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : reliability, trustworthiness
2
: something for which one is responsible : burden responsibilities>

 

 

I don't see anything in there that gives you the right to control a womans womb. Its being responsible morally or legally. It's LEGAL to have an abortion.

So what if it's legal? Slavery has been legal. Controlled rape has been illegal. Genocide has been legal.

And people have to be responsible to THEIR  morals, not YOURS.

Anyone who doesn't consider murder immoral has no morals.

Making people responsible for YOUR morals?

Well, move to Iran. That's what they do with Sharia Law.

Uh. Are you completely obtuse? That's every country. The elite decide "the morals" of the many.

Abortion is illegal in Iran.

Maybe you'll like it there.

 

 

Seriously, I think you might be happier in Iran. It's a theocracy, and they control women. I think that's what you want.

It's not going to happen in the US, but it does exist in Iran.

rape not equal abortion.

murder not equal abortion.

Slavery not equal abortion.

No one is buying those retarded attempts to hide your real agenda, control of a woman's womb.

If you want to control something, why don't you worry about your penis?

If you want that control it DOES exist. In Iran. Iran controls women, they are not equal to men, and abortion is illegal.

I suggest you move there if that's the kind of society you want to live in.

 

This whole, "Move to iran" bit is tiresome and is a sign of a lazy attempt at debate.

Stating, "It's not going to happen in the US", is so laughable. Fact is, before 1973, it was happening in the U.S. Before the supreme court UNCONSTITUTIONALLY OVERTURNED, states right. Surprise!

Murder...Does equal abortion, it's the same damn thing.

 

And what is your obsession about a woman's womb? NO ONE CARES ABOUT A WOMANS WOMB! Except you...Because you seem RIDICULOUSLY obsessed with womens wombs.

Here. Let's close this argument with this quote.

"I was sitting in O.R.'s offices when I noticed a fetal development poster. The progression was so obvious, the eyes were so sweet. It hurt my heart, just looking at them. I ran outside and finally, it dawned on me. 'Norma', I said to myself, 'They're right'. I had worked with pregnant women for years. I had been through three pregnancies and deliveries myself. I should have known. Yet something in that poster made me lose my breath. I kept seeing the picture of that tiny, 10-week-old embryo, and I said to myself, that's a baby! It's as if blinders just fell off my eyes and I suddenly understood the truth — that's a baby!

I felt crushed under the truth of this realization. I had to face up to the awful reality. Abortion wasn't about 'products of conception'. It wasn't about 'missed periods'. It was about children being killed in their mother's wombs. All those years I was wrong. Signing that affidavit, I was wrong. Working in an abortion clinic, I was wrong. No more of this first trimester, second trimester, third trimester stuff. Abortion — at any point — was wrong. It was so clear. Painfully clear"

- Norma McCorvey

If you don't know who Norma McCorvey, she's more popularly known as Jane Roe.

Even the woman that in 1969 attemptedly lied to doctors in texas to try to get a legal abortion, and then was used as a pawn by Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, later in life recognized the error of her ways, and even attempted to get the same supreme court decision she was responsible for, overturned.

 

Really? You're going to make the retarded "fetus = child" statement? Get a clue.

If you think abortion = murder, I think you should move to Iran. It seems YOU"RE the one obsessed with a woman's womb, since you want control over it.

Why don't you just worry about controlling your penis?

They force their religion on people In Iran. You'd fit right in.

During the Founding of the United States, abortion was legal before the "quickening".

It was only later that abortion was made illegal. Rights in the US have eroded for quite some time.

Thank goodness we're leaving that stuff in the past and moving forward.

BTW, prohibition is also over. It's legal to drink alchohol now, just like it was when the US was founded. \

When people like you try to take away freedoms of Americans, I feel like it might have been better if you'd been aborted.

We'd all be better off.

But there's no test you can do to tell if someone is going to end up being a control freak, worried about controlling other people's lives, instead of tending to their own business.

 

 

 

  Ihmotepp

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7/10/11 8:55:45 AM#77
Originally posted by Finwe

- Norma McCorvey

If you don't know who Norma McCorvey, she's more popularly known as Jane Roe.

Even the woman that in 1969 attemptedly lied to doctors in texas to try to get a legal abortion, and then was used as a pawn by Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, later in life recognized the error of her ways, and even attempted to get the same supreme court decision she was responsible for, overturned.

 

I find that has ZERO credibility.

It's like when former drug addicts become evangelists for making drugs illegal.

I did it and got away with it, now let's put everyone else in jail for it!

Yea, serioulsy hypocritical and not worth listening to.

  C-B-M

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Posts: 2661

7/10/11 11:49:04 AM#78

You gotta love how Ihmotepp can decide when to believe her and when not to.  When she agrees with him, she's a credible and intelligent person.  When she disagrees with him, she's just a dirtbag and nobody cares.

  Ihmotepp

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7/10/11 4:54:15 PM#79
Originally posted by C-B-M

You gotta love how Ihmotepp can decide when to believe her and when not to.  When she agrees with him, she's a credible and intelligent person.  When she disagrees with him, she's just a dirtbag and nobody cares.

 

A hypocrite is a hypocrite. If YOU do it and dont' go to jail, then you want to put OTHER people in jail for the same thing now that you don't do it anymore, you're a hypocrite.

  C-B-M

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7/10/11 5:27:53 PM#80

And again, you're just demonstrating your immaturity.  For example, let's say someone used drugs and then later realized that they negatively impacted their life.  Now they are against drug use.  You approach that like a little kid: "hey, you got to use drugs, so I get to use drugs, too.  Fair is fair!"  Some day maybe you'll grow up.

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