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  Dionysus187

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6/27/11 6:45:12 PM#61

Originally posted by Robsolf



Originally posted by mukin



Originally posted by Robsolf



Originally posted by joeballs


I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.



I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.


That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.



I am not sure I agree.  I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game).  I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.



Market Call of Duty as an MMO, charge $14.95 a month and see what happens.



 


A lot of those shooters are light MMO's already. You can fight on huge maps earning new weapons and equipment. Hell to this day planetside is doing well and it is a pure combat MMO for $15 a month heh. Did even better when it wasn't ancient.


Thing is you can't make a 'pure combat' MMO thats slow paced and has you fighting with auto attack and 4 hotbars stacked on your screen. In other words the combat has to be GOOD.


  jeddak

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This too shall pass...

6/27/11 6:50:08 PM#62

Only game on the list I can comment on is E&B  and while I hated to see it go (and liked it alot) it was also a mess in many ways. Matrix Online was a real hardship since I was a huge Matrix fan and it was so badly implemented but I still shed a tear when it died. SW galaxies was a real sand box game (like UO) but again in my opinion badly implemented and nge was just embarrassing.


Still, to anyone playing any online game when it ends my heart goes out to you and sadly I think quite a few more are coming if you go by the lukewarm player receptions most are getting these days. There is always something terribly wrong with all games in someone's view and if that sentiment catches on woe to the online game no matter how decent it is or will be at some future date.


UO,EQ (best mmo's). Been in lotro for almost 7 years mostly in pvp as a lovable spider: Mummy

  Andraxx

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6/27/11 7:01:02 PM#63

Of those 5, I played 3 of them (AC2, TR, CoS) and I miss them all. TR never quite figured out its audience. CoS suffered from small dev team and publisher issues and never found an audience, and AC2 had a bad launch, with a polarized fanbase that eoither loved the new graphics and accepted the diffrences, or hated it because it wasn't AC1 with the new graphics. Personally, I loved AC2 because it was familiar in setting, and although it was class-based instead of skill-based, it gave us some bizarre and/or unique classes like Hivekeeper and Tactician.

I heard a lot of good things about EnB, but never had a chance to try it. Never went near AA.

  rockin_ufo

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Zoraï

6/27/11 7:08:12 PM#64

I wish Shadowbane wasn't closed down. I heard it was a good game, would love to try the RvR in it.

Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the light
It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
'cause everyone thinks they're right,
And nobody thinks that there just might
Be more than one road to our final destination--

  Sovrath

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6/27/11 7:14:32 PM#65
Originally posted by Blutmaul

 


TCoS - was to weird, much to weird, releasing against to much competition, experienced poeple called it a fail a year b4 release and the truth is it was.

I don't think chronicles of spellborn was weird at all.

If anything, it wasn't weird enough!

when i managed to get through that horrible initial tutorial only to be given a quest to run around and find some towers to collect some sort of reports I just sighed and uninstalled. It was a bit hasty I admit but at that point I just couldn't do running around anymore.

  Robsolf

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6/27/11 7:22:30 PM#66
Originally posted by Dionysus187

Originally posted by Robsolf

Market Call of Duty as an MMO, charge $14.95 a month and see what happens.



 

A lot of those shooters are light MMO's already. You can fight on huge maps earning new weapons and equipment. Hell to this day planetside is doing well and it is a pure combat MMO for $15 a month heh. Did even better when it wasn't ancient.


Thing is you can't make a 'pure combat' MMO thats slow paced and has you fighting with auto attack and 4 hotbars stacked on your screen. In other words the combat has to be GOOD.

Any idea how many people are paying just $15 a month for JUST Planetside?  C'mon now... ya make good points, but you know better.  People are going with the Sony full access sub, and getting their MMO jones from other games, then getting their "pew" on when they get the urge.

Folks try the same line when they claim that the MS/Sony PS sub people get for consoles is SOLELY for some shooter.  You and I both know that's not true.

A shooter is not enough to pay $15 a month.  People expect more.  Though I like the game, DCUO confirms it.

  s34s0ns

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6/27/11 7:22:32 PM#67

Originally posted by Ryukan



   Asheron's Call was not that good of a game in comparison to the original. ALl it had was better graphics, the gameplay was a step down from Asheron's Call. If Turbine had kept the general gameplay and character system of Asheron's Call, AC2 might not have sucked so bad.



 


Asheron's Call 2 was awesome. The forced early release is what killed the game.


 


It really should have been called Asheron's Call: Next Generation or something... sick of the AC1 players bashing it and I loved AC1 as well.


"In life we are all turds, some sink and some float but in the end we all get flushed."

  Nuich

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6/27/11 7:27:08 PM#68
Earth and Beyond Still lives. You just need to search around a little bit for it. I would post a link but they don't like me doing that for some strange reason.

  Gormok

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6/27/11 7:34:56 PM#69

EnB was a game I truely loved, I actually left AC for this game. The way space and space combat was done in that game, should be done that way for every game with a space setting. Like others have said, EA just didn't give the game time to flourish. I think that they wanted EQ numbers out of the gate and that justed wasn't going to happen in that short timeframe. Being the only sci-fi space game it could have hit those numbers in time and maybe more. EA had a real gem with this one, to bad they killed it before it could see it's true potential. That kind of worries me with ToR as well, ToR has the potential to be a break out hit, but will EA give it the time it needs to flourish or will they kill it if it doesn't hit 1 million subs within the first year.


  BillMurphy

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6/27/11 7:54:39 PM#70

Out of all these, while I ranked some above others, my personal favorite was beyond a shadow of a doubt... Auto Assault.  So much fun I had in that one.  I wish someone would bring it back everytime I think of it.

  Talroc

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6/27/11 8:11:18 PM#71

http://www.enb-emulator.com

for anyone who never got to try it or anyone who wants to play again,it's not perfect but they are doing a great job of bringing it back.

  luciusETRUR

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6/27/11 8:59:28 PM#72
Originally posted by erictlewis

Out of the list the only two that I ever dabbled with was Tabula Rasa, and Asheron's Call II.   The rest I have no clue about.   It is a shame to see a game come to an end but it does happen, and sometimes it needs to happen I.E. Asheron's Call II.

It didn't "need" to happen. Had Turbine been an independant company, AC2 probably would still be up, but Microsoft made the process extremely complicated and expensive to transfer the data from MS server to Turbine servers and that's why it closed. It's a shame it closed, I still have the box and of course the memories. A game I will never have back.

If they brought AC2 back as an F2P title, I would be installing it the minute it launched.

  Rokurgepta

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6/27/11 9:34:35 PM#73

Originally posted by erictlewis


Originally posted by JeroKane




Originally posted by mukin








Originally posted by Robsolf








Originally posted by joeballs





I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.





I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.




That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.





I am not sure I agree.  I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game).  I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.







 




Tabula Rasa was a great game! But due to the ongoing political war between Richard Garriott and NCSoft, there was no passion and no clear leadership moving the game forward.




It's a real shame, as the story was bloody interesting and very engaging, combat was great and the Dynamic mob spawns and air drops were just the best no other MMO to date ever matched!




The most sad part is, that it didn't got shut down due to lack of players. It just got shut down by NCSoft due to their hatred against Richard Garriott. /sigh



 And this is why to this day I don't trust NCSOFT or anybody who has anything to do with them.  They showed that would rather give a middle finger to the face of their players, just to fire somebody.  If they did it once they will do it again.



 


 What players? BEFORE NCSoft announced they were closing the game it was down to 20k subs or less. TR as good as it was at times had some parts that simply ruined the game. The war was boring. The PVP was atrocious and the crafting horrible. The bane just never felt like an enemy worthy of having kicked us off of Earth.


  Rokurgepta

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6/27/11 9:38:28 PM#74

Originally posted by Robsolf


Originally posted by Dionysus187




Originally posted by Robsolf



Market Call of Duty as an MMO, charge $14.95 a month and see what happens.







 




A lot of those shooters are light MMO's already. You can fight on huge maps earning new weapons and equipment. Hell to this day planetside is doing well and it is a pure combat MMO for $15 a month heh. Did even better when it wasn't ancient.




Thing is you can't make a 'pure combat' MMO thats slow paced and has you fighting with auto attack and 4 hotbars stacked on your screen. In other words the combat has to be GOOD.



Any idea how many people are paying just $15 a month for JUST Planetside?  C'mon now... ya make good points, but you know better.  People are going with the Sony full access sub, and getting their MMO jones from other games, then getting their "pew" on when they get the urge.


Folks try the same line when they claim that the MS/Sony PS sub people get for consoles is SOLELY for some shooter.  You and I both know that's not true.


A shooter is not enough to pay $15 a month.  People expect more.  Though I like the game, DCUO confirms it.



 


 Planetside was great fun, but I am amazed it is still open. I believe they consolidated to one server. Though i have heard talk of a Planetside 2, which I would definately check out.


  Rokurgepta

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6/27/11 9:41:44 PM#75
Originally posted by Azrile

EnB was so unique.. I never got to endgame and never saw anything like boss fights.. but the game was just fun and relaxing to play.  The controls and flight just felt ´perfect´...  I really love the graphics too..  I still remember my ship name.. The Exodus.... in honor of my leaving UO for EnB.


Some of the others on lhe list i tried, but they were more hype than fun.  TR in particular was never fun for me.  I played it because of RG and all the craziness outside the game, but in the game it was just not fun.

 E&B is the one MMO that i miss the most. There was a group doing a private server rebuild of the game but that seems to have failed. Was really hoping they would pull it off so i could play that one again.

 

I so wish they could bring this one back.

  Ravik

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6/27/11 10:06:27 PM#76
Originally posted by tawess

I am still very confused how ANYONE could fail with a MMO based on the Matrix... It practically writes it self... You don't even have to invent a reason to explain why there are game mechanics... The movies have done that for you.


 


Still that was one crappy game and SoE is in no way to blame for it's death... Blame WB for that if anything.

 Agree.

Matrix is the perfect IP for a mmo

Make games you want to play.

  Blackhound

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6/27/11 10:10:33 PM#77

EA also closed up Westwood. Some of those guys went on to make huge games with Valve, among other big companies, so don't weep. While E&B may be gone, the people who created it are still getting along.


  dageeza

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6/27/11 10:37:54 PM#78

I played them all except chronicles of spellborn..


Auto assault was to me the coolest of the lot..

Playing GW2..

  Terminatus

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6/27/11 11:10:04 PM#79

Earth & Beyond has my vote and it's still sorelly missed even all this time.


 


Dang EA, this was the 2nd MMO i played that they bought just to close down (i used to play Legends of Kesmai when EA bought the Online Service GameStorm to close it down and redeirect players to Ultima Online)...


 


...since their main focus seems to be The Sims line of games... maybe they should launch a game where the Sims were a bunch of clueless suits of a gaming company that didn't had a clue what they were doing and needed player help to get out of gaming crapper... "The Sims: Art Electronics" ;)


  Nuich

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6/27/11 11:11:34 PM#80
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by Azrile

EnB was so unique.. I never got to endgame and never saw anything like boss fights.. but the game was just fun and relaxing to play.  The controls and flight just felt ´perfect´...  I really love the graphics too..  I still remember my ship name.. The Exodus.... in honor of my leaving UO for EnB.


Some of the others on lhe list i tried, but they were more hype than fun.  TR in particular was never fun for me.  I played it because of RG and all the craziness outside the game, but in the game it was just not fun.

 E&B is the one MMO that i miss the most. There was a group doing a private server rebuild of the game but that seems to have failed. Was really hoping they would pull it off so i could play that one again.

 

I so wish they could bring this one back.

 

It has not failed. read back a few post for the current link. It is alive an well.

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