So sick of seeing, "WOW REPLACEMENT/WOWKIILLER"

Lame, as is WoW, RIFT, and 90% of the MMOs out there.

Going back to wait for something better than a grind fest or a hollow game full of "Next Gen" statements and broken promises!

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

Originally posted by echose7en

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

The servers aren't dead =/  There's only a small few that are low pop right now... and it's 3:15am server time.

I don't understand how things are bland and boring for you. In woW all you had to look forward to when leveling is quests... more quests... or battlegrounds. In Rift, the world is alive and there a lot of things to do. You're not stuck with questing or PvPing alone. In Rift it's not the world playing itself, it's not reactions between various systems... it's you.

Currently playing, see big problems though. Severa are empty of players meaning most servers dont see rift invasions at all (so much for doign certain quests and achievements on those) whilst others do see the odd rift invasion but cannot succeed against them, again too few in playerbase numbers to fight them off.

Then you also have rifts opening up, getting to bonus stage brings out an elite boss, now sometimes these can just cast a spell and everyone instantly dies, that includes players 2x in level (e.g instant deth when a lvl 20 cats or does a move and 3 lvl 21-25 players and a level 39 players go from 100% hp to dead). Some say its a bug. Other things take virtually no damage from some class's at all, but if another player under the mob level comes in his damage hurts the thing whilst everyones else's do nothing (again i was told this is a bug).

Now once you leave the starting area's, you come to ancient wardstones that must be opened via a new skill you get,  these then give daily quests, however if teh opposite faction has done this you have to wait for god knows how long for an invasion that clears them or a foothold assault, otherwose you will not be able to take it.

Some footholds happen that take 25-30 minutes to get rid of, as soon as you dissapear to do the quest, you can bet your ass it will be retaken and become a foothold again within 2 minutes of your group leaving the spot. Very annoying.

Right now, i have 9 days left, as i have already started most servers on teh EU side are empty of players, there is1 server that has queue but is a PvP server, that means campd and ganked by lvl 40-50 all the time becuase they have nothign to do but kill low levels and then stay their doing that (sad but true), have checked out 6 of the (i think 10 PvE servers so far) and 5 are devoid of life, not sure about the 6th one, was late when i joined it (8pm) last night, so will see and find out sometime today if its dead or not. It does seem to me that servers merges are somewhat of a must do for this game though, probably bring them from 10 to 4 (PvE), cannot say much about the pvp ones, tried 2 1 is full the other has a little life on it, although more life than the PvE servers have. Ive just been put off from playing on these servers if thats what the game is like for high levels to go round and pawn low levels all day long. Had my fill of that lameness in other games.

Outcome

As it stands right now, i severly doubt that i will resub once my playtime runs out in 9 days time, not unless something drastically changes. Have i advised friends on this, yes. Will they join, not from what i have given in feedback nope. Also in my second week i did bring 2 friends to check it out and let them play a little on the full pvp server, but when they asked questions or for help they were either told work it out for yourself or (mostly) just met a silent wall. Community wise on full srvers is, there is no community spirit at all, case of jump/join a grp for rifts, never say or speak to anyone, kill rift leave rince repeat. Solo game with helpers that may as well be robots.

Originally posted by Manestream

Currently playing, see big problems though. Severa are empty of players meaning most servers dont see rift invasions at all (so much for doign certain quests and achievements on those) whilst others do see the odd rift invasion but cannot succeed against them, again too few in playerbase numbers to fight them off.

Servers are not empty... at the time of writing this there are only 5 servers at low population, the rest are medium or higher.

Then you also have rifts opening up, getting to bonus stage brings out an elite boss, now sometimes these can just cast a spell and everyone instantly dies, that includes players 2x in level (e.g instant deth when a lvl 20 cats or does a move and 3 lvl 21-25 players and a level 39 players go from 100% hp to dead). Some say its a bug. Other things take virtually no damage from some class's at all, but if another player under the mob level comes in his damage hurts the thing whilst everyones else's do nothing (again i was told this is a bug).

Most invasions bosses will have abilities... there aren't meant to be tank and spank mobs. There are abilities that you MUST watch out for. It's not a bug... There's also things that cannot be damaged until other things have been killed. Why would you keep attacking when you're seeing the word "Immune" spammed on your screen?

Now once you leave the starting area's, you come to ancient wardstones that must be opened via a new skill you get,  these then give daily quests, however if teh opposite faction has done this you have to wait for god knows how long for an invasion that clears them or a foothold assault, otherwose you will not be able to take it.

Completely wrong... You can take the wardstones at any time... all you must do is kill the enemies guarding it AND the wardstone.

Some footholds happen that take 25-30 minutes to get rid of, as soon as you dissapear to do the quest, you can bet your ass it will be retaken and become a foothold again within 2 minutes of your group leaving the spot. Very annoying.

Footholds do not just appear out of thin air... they're spawned by invasions. So long as YOUR wardstone is dead they can summon theirs in its place.

Right now, i have 9 days left, as i have already started most servers on teh EU side are empty of players, there is1 server that has queue but is a PvP server, that means campd and ganked by lvl 40-50 all the time becuase they have nothign to do but kill low levels and then stay their doing that (sad but true), have checked out 6 of the (i think 10 PvE servers so far) and 5 are devoid of life, not sure about the 6th one, was late when i joined it (8pm) last night, so will see and find out sometime today if its dead or not. It does seem to me that servers merges are somewhat of a must do for this game though, probably bring them from 10 to 4 (PvE), cannot say much about the pvp ones, tried 2 1 is full the other has a little life on it, although more life than the PvE servers have. Ive just been put off from playing on these servers if thats what the game is like for high levels to go round and pawn low levels all day long. Had my fill of that lameness in other games.

I honestly don't understand how you're not seeing tons of people online... what server are you on? The vast majority of the EU servers right now are medium population.

Outcome

As it stands right now, i severly doubt that i will resub once my playtime runs out in 9 days time, not unless something drastically changes. Have i advised friends on this, yes. Will they join, not from what i have given in feedback nope. Also in my second week i did bring 2 friends to check it out and let them play a little on the full pvp server, but when they asked questions or for help they were either told work it out for yourself or (mostly) just met a silent wall. Community wise on full srvers is, there is no community spirit at all, case of jump/join a grp for rifts, never say or speak to anyone, kill rift leave rince repeat. Solo game with helpers that may as well be robots.

You can't blame a game for its community and based on everythign you've said.. there's still a whole lot that you're not understanding about the game and the fact that you've told all your friends this WRONG information only makes the game look bad.

So many things you've stated are wrong. I'll point them out.

I die a little inside whenever a professional writer uses the word "toon" instead of character. Well, actually, whenever anyone uses it. But it's worse in semi-professional articles...

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Originally posted by SBFord
Two evenings was enough for me to suspend my WoW account for now. I am enjoying the game play enough that I have decided to focus on RIFT for a while. The play is complex enough to keep me mentally engaged and with the huge variety of play available its hard to get bored.

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Play for 10 levels, push 4 buttons, then quit?

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by echose7en

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

The servers aren't dead =/  There's only a small few that are low pop right now... and it's 3:15am server time.

I don't understand how things are bland and boring for you. In woW all you had to look forward to when leveling is quests... more quests... or battlegrounds. In Rift, the world is alive and there a lot of things to do. You're not stuck with questing or PvPing alone. In Rift it's not the world playing itself, it's not reactions between various systems... it's you.

 i can list quite a few shards which are close to death ie you can be in the lfg thingie for hrs and when questing i hardly see anyone.one of such shard i even have a level 50 i do not play i had to re roll - cinderon EU.other i can safely say that show a medium population but is quite empty (just go to the capitals of this shard to see)- quicksilver eu,scarhide eu and pretty sure they are others.

on other hand ,people have got fed up of trion refusing to admit server merger is needed and re rolling thus a few shards now have same queues they had when game was launched with some queuing for 500 because no one wants dead shards and all focusing on a few shards now.

i think its been basically said numerous times and folks have even gone to calculate on offical forum showing medium shards having only 300 people on both factions .anyone who still believes that low,med,high rating is a good indicator of shard pop ,either do not play on this shards with pop issues or just hiding from the truth.

They have announced that character transfers are in the works:

http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?191551-Character-Transfers-are-In-the-Works

Originally posted by Xasapis

They have announced that character transfers are in the works:

http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?191551-Character-Transfers-are-In-the-Works

 well they said in a podcast ,char transfer which i don't see it been the solution.

scenario A - free transfer.well that will mean all dead servers will basically move their toons to the top 5 highest pop shards and damn the consequences of queues.Rift end game = loads of expert dungeon grinding which was made worse with last patch so people need numbers.

end result dead server will be populated by a handful seeking pure solo experience.

scenario B- make people pay for transfer.this will be unfair as trion is to blame for opening too many servers at launch.people innocently picked a server and got stuck in those dead shards.personally,if they do this then i say time to quit for me (pretty unfair move when they got the blame)

still both scenario will make dying  shards dead.

their fear of bad press if they merge is whats holding them back and best to bite the bullet and do it early and focus on other things then do it eventually after losing more subs.

Scenario A is easily avoidable by making certain servers inaccessible to transfers.

Scenario B is likely but for more than one or two transfers. I'm talking about how other MMORPG companies have handled the situation before. First transfer was free, subsequent were not.

Server merges have their own share of problems besides the bad publicity. One that I can think of fast is incobatibilities between player names (who's going to keep his own in a conflict?).

In any case, for this server transfer to work, it needs to provide guild transfers as well, seeing as how the guilds also level and thus need to be retained in a a transfer. Which of course leads to different kind of problems if not all the members agree on the transfer. I suppose however that this is a guild related dispute that can be resolved inhouse (the drastic way is to kick the minority that doesn't want to transfer or if it's the other way around, the minority will have to move without the guild).

Originally posted by hercules

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by echose7en

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

The servers aren't dead =/  There's only a small few that are low pop right now... and it's 3:15am server time.

I don't understand how things are bland and boring for you. In woW all you had to look forward to when leveling is quests... more quests... or battlegrounds. In Rift, the world is alive and there a lot of things to do. You're not stuck with questing or PvPing alone. In Rift it's not the world playing itself, it's not reactions between various systems... it's you.

 i can list quite a few shards which are close to death ie you can be in the lfg thingie for hrs and when questing i hardly see anyone.one of such shard i even have a level 50 i do not play i had to re roll - cinderon EU.other i can safely say that show a medium population but is quite empty (just go to the capitals of this shard to see)- quicksilver eu,scarhide eu and pretty sure they are others.

on other hand ,people have got fed up of trion refusing to admit server merger is needed and re rolling thus a few shards now have same queues they had when game was launched with some queuing for 500 because no one wants dead shards and all focusing on a few shards now.

i think its been basically said numerous times and folks have even gone to calculate on offical forum showing medium shards having only 300 people on both factions .anyone who still believes that low,med,high rating is a good indicator of shard pop ,either do not play on this shards with pop issues or just hiding from the truth.

Earlier this year a friend and I decided to level by questing on WoW (nelfs) from we went through 27 levels before we saw one other person questing . Also this was on a full population pvp server and we did'nt get ganked once untill we hit our mid 50s . Most people in WoW seam to be in instances so by questing you'd think outside the citys the game world was pretty dead the same may be applied to RIFT . I've tried several shards on RIFT (eu) . The lowest I would say was the roll playing server and I still saw plenty of people on it . I settled on two servers both are easily as busy as any WoW server I play on (in the afternoons and evenings) and one had a 35 minuite wait to get into last night the other about 5 mins . The capitals Meridian and Sanctuary were jam packed with people on Icewatch and Whitefall . I would suggest you change your server(s) because you sound like your playing a different game to me .

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Originally posted by hercules

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by echose7en

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

The servers aren't dead =/  There's only a small few that are low pop right now... and it's 3:15am server time.

I don't understand how things are bland and boring for you. In woW all you had to look forward to when leveling is quests... more quests... or battlegrounds. In Rift, the world is alive and there a lot of things to do. You're not stuck with questing or PvPing alone. In Rift it's not the world playing itself, it's not reactions between various systems... it's you.

 i can list quite a few shards which are close to death ie you can be in the lfg thingie for hrs and when questing i hardly see anyone.one of such shard i even have a level 50 i do not play i had to re roll - cinderon EU.other i can safely say that show a medium population but is quite empty (just go to the capitals of this shard to see)- quicksilver eu,scarhide eu and pretty sure they are others.

on other hand ,people have got fed up of trion refusing to admit server merger is needed and re rolling thus a few shards now have same queues they had when game was launched with some queuing for 500 because no one wants dead shards and all focusing on a few shards now.

i think its been basically said numerous times and folks have even gone to calculate on offical forum showing medium shards having only 300 people on both factions .anyone who still believes that low,med,high rating is a good indicator of shard pop ,either do not play on this shards with pop issues or just hiding from the truth.

Earlier this year a friend and I decided to level by questing on WoW (nelfs) from we went through 27 levels before we saw one other person questing . Also this was on a full population pvp server and we did'nt get ganked once untill we hit our mid 50s . Most people in WoW seam to be in instances so by questing you'd think outside the citys the game world was pretty dead the same may be applied to RIFT . I've tried several shards on RIFT (eu) . The lowest I would say was the roll playing server and I still saw plenty of people on it . I settled on two servers both are easily as busy as any WoW server I play on (in the afternoons and evenings) and one had a 35 minuite wait to get into last night the other about 5 mins . The capitals Meridian and Sanctuary were jam packed with people on Icewatch and Whitefall . I would suggest you change your server(s) because you sound like your playing a different game to me .

 http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?141155-server-mergers-or-a-tranfser-system-needed-sooner-than-later

this is 53  pages of people saying same thing so guess all are playing a "different" game to you.if you are on a good pop server then its great but don't try making it look like there is no problem at all.There tons of other threads on it that mods locked up due to amount of them like http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?190098-Server-population-still-dead-and-trion-still-has-done-nothing.

just say "on my server the population is good" rather then try make it look like the game has all healthy servers and those who say otherwise are clearly lying and playing a "different" game.

Do you think trion would have even considered a server transfer in such a young game if there was no problem at all.

oh yeah and server with queue is probably maybe one like brightweld which is in queue because many like me got sick and re rolled there and are currently playing there since our server is empty and guess even more empty as people rush to consolidate on  such servers.

Originally posted by tkoreaper

Originally posted by echose7en

To me this is just a blander version of wow, ive been trying to get into it with the 7 day free trial but the world is so bland and boring, i really tried to get into it but just couldnt, the writer says the game is faster paced than wow and i just cant see it, the combat seems alot slower than wow to me, the risfts are not that impressive and as for the soul system for me is its only redeeming feature.

Also thier advertising bringing wow into it just doesnt sit well with me, if your game is good enough then advertise it as such.

And most of the eu/english servers are pretty damn dead bar a couple.

The servers aren't dead =/  There's only a small few that are low pop right now... and it's 3:15am server time.

I don't understand how things are bland and boring for you. In woW all you had to look forward to when leveling is quests... more quests... or battlegrounds. In Rift, the world is alive and there a lot of things to do. You're not stuck with questing or PvPing alone. In Rift it's not the world playing itself, it's not reactions between various systems... it's you.

If there are no dead servers why are there so many posts asking for transfers/merges? fact of the matter is there are tons of people saying their servers are ghost towns, alot of these people have done alot of investigating and it pretty much shows that trions high, med and low server numbers have to be alot lower than peoples expectations of what those mean.

The game world to me is very bland, there is hardly anything dinamic about their dinamic content and people are avoiding these most of the time from what ive seen so they cant be that great.

There is alot of things to do? your kidding right? grind rep or dungeions you did earlier?

Yep - for me it's a WoW replacement and I am enjoying every minute of it.

I bought the game after 2 weeks on its release. After level 30 it gets boring, after 40 it is unplayable for me. When "free month" ended many people left. There was no one at questing areas so no one to close rifts or something. Also people in warfronts didnt have a clue to what t do. I'm not saying it is a bad game. But it needs many many improvements until it catches WoW.  I totally agree with elocke, this game has no love for alts :/ It really sucks that I have to level my alts on same places and same quests also quests are so boring, not like in WoW... Anyway if you are bored with WoW try this but dont expect much, if you didnt play WoW then you will like it.

I think it is the wow replacement as far as it looks it is keeping a steady player base and they are adding content pretty fast. I guess they know they can't just realse a Mmorpg to complete aginst WoW and not add content fast. I enjoy the game personal i just unsubed due to not being able to afford 

Read more of Melinda Haren's Rift: The WoW Replacement?

lol

I also found Rift fun. But it has some problems. Etc. It doesnt like AMD Phenon CPUs... It run like shit on it no matter what Clock frequence you are running.

The only thing that keeps me from playing this.