I don't replace WoW with another WoWish game. if i feel like playign WoWish game, I reactivate my subs in WoW  for a month or two and have a blast without needed on leveling new char, gettign gear, farming money, leveling profs etc etc

I'm really tired of pople saying "oh it has more that WoW did after 3 months" crap.  Yeah they prolly had more as other games already laid the ground work for it and Trion "borrowed" from that work, and to top it off the technology makes it a hell of a lot easier nowadays so yeah their gonna produce quicker stuff.  Vanilla was a whole seperate ballgame anyways to Rift, compare Wrath or Cata if you want to play the compare game.

As far as the OP goes...all what Rift does is an alternative to WoW to those sick of it and have overplayed it. 

Although I would like to get on the "compare Rift to WoW at three months" bandwagon. It is an inconsequential arguement. Wow is not three months old and a lot of MMO history, "innovation" and progress ahve been made. The OP was suggesting that Rift replace Wow . . . which means Rift now versus WoW now. So it is a valid arguement.

I have been playing Rift since beta and unsubbed Wow many months ago. I prefer the graphics, talent trees and multiple souls of Rift to anything Wow has to offer. All that said, for all of us playing Rift, we cannot negate the arguement of chronological comparison, it isn't valid.

I tried Rift, seemed like WoW with a different paint job.  For me, the WoW replacement is Minecraft.

Originally posted by Waldoe

Originally posted by mbd1968

Originally posted by Elidien

Originally posted by elocke

My thoughts exactly....until I hit level 50.  2 months after launch and I'm back to WoW .  I like Rift, but it doesnt' have enough content, i.e. alternate leveling paths for multiple alts, to keep me playing it the same I way I played Wow at launch.  For me the game, needs to double itself in order to keep me playing long enough to the next expansion or major content patch.

Also, while some of the game is faster paced, I have found that WoW quests obliterate Rift quests in every way.  I mow down 10 mobs much faster in WoW than I ever did in Rift.  Also, PHASING is just awesome to me.  It makes me feel like the quest was worth it.  Unlike in Rift where the quests don't really matter except as a vehicle to get me xp points.  And, if you want to just quest to level cap, you HAVE to do as many quests as you can, which again, ruins any replayability.

Also, those Rifts and footholds get old real fast.  At 50, when I was in Tier 2 gear, you basically are only closing Rifts and footholds for rep and achievements.  It got to the point where people would call "Invasion in Stillmoor!" and I wouldn't even bat an eye.  I just didn't care enough to go do it for the umpteenth time.

For me, WoW still wins hands down, but, RIFT is a great second alternative and I'm sure I'll be revisiting it a year or so from now after more content has been added.  

I couldn't have said it any better. my thoughts EXACTLY.

If you compare Rift 3 months after launch with WoW 3 months after launch, Rift offers a lot more than WoW did. Of course it won't offer the same options and content that WoW does now. if you want to compare like with like, come back to Rift in 5 years and compare.

That is the thing that I do not get at all. Most people are comparing WoW in its current form to Rift as it is now. I played WoW at launch and for many years after. Rift has quite a bit more content than WoW had hands down when it launched. So with the fact in mind that Rift needs some more time to grow and mature I would say at this rate it has a chance to surpass WoW down the road in terms of amout of time the game was out, how much content, how many people are playing, replayabiltity and much more.

Perhaps, then, you should ask Trion why they insist on making direct references to WoW in their advertising. "You're not in Azeroth anymore" is a direct challenge to WoW... in its current state. A newer one I've read about, where they invoke the "Horde"... another passive reference to WoW.

I take that slogan as one way of them saying "Rift is a viable alternative to WoW", and that would be in its present form, not as it was when it launched. In fact, I believe as much has been said outright about the game in the past. So, yes, when I'm looking at Rift, I'm going to compare it to WoW in its current form, because Trion are basically calling my attention to it as such.

Trion are already quite deliberately drawing comparisons between their game and Blizzard's as "clever marketing".

So, when players make comparisons between the two, it seems rather disingenuous to say "well, Rift just launched... WoW's been out a long time..." That doesn't seem to matter to Trion, does it?

Can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by Aren_D

I don't replace WoW with another WoWish game. if i feel like playign WoWish game, I reactivate my subs in WoW  for a month or two and have a blast without needed on leveling new char, gettign gear, farming money, leveling profs etc etc

You make no sense, if you have everything done, why resub? The first reason to play rift instead of wow is because you already did everything interesting in wow.

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Waldoe

 

That is the thing that I do not get at all. Most people are comparing WoW in its current form to Rift as it is now. I played WoW at launch and for many years after. Rift has quite a bit more content than WoW had hands down when it launched. So with the fact in mind that Rift needs some more time to grow and mature I would say at this rate it has a chance to surpass WoW down the road in terms of amout of time the game was out, how much content, how many people are playing, replayabiltity and much more.

Perhaps, then, you should ask Trion why they insist on making direct references to WoW in their advertising. "You're not in Azeroth anymore" is a direct challenge to WoW... in its current state.

I take that slogan as one way of them saying "Rift is a viable alternative to WoW". In fact, I believe as much has been said outright about the game in the past. So, yes, when I'm looking at Rift, I'm going to compare it to WoW in its current form, because Trion are basically calling my attention to it as such.

Can't have it both ways.

The ad they're running now, of course, is "JOIN OUR HORDE", and while noone holds the copyright on "Horde", the reference is obvious.

Like you basically said. Fans can't say "Tehee, the ads are awesom!" and simultaneously blame people for making comparisons.

I wouldn't say replacement, but I would definitely say a solid game that's very,very similar.

At present I prefer RIFT to WoW simply because leveling in WoW has become so easy its boring . Thats not to say leveling in RIFT is hardcore though. The two leveling paths bother me a bit and I think it will limit its long term appeal to me . I dont think a return to WoW will ever be a true long term option for me either because of the changes Blizzard have made like the cross server looking for a group system have ruined it in my opinion and its no longer what I'm looking for in an mmo I may pop in again for a couple of months each year out of curiousity then again I might not . I'll play RIFT as long as I enjoy it by which time hopefully another mmo that interests me will be out .

One of my friends bought the game and I was in the beta the whole time. It was fun and somewhat dynamic like most say, but I knew there wasn't anything that would make it last. The rifts and invasions came so much that it got completely boring. The quests had a story behind them like WoW, but something with WoW's quests now give you the sense that you are more involved and in the story.

I think RIFT is a great game, but it has not been around long enough and they should probably have developed the world a bit more if it really wanted to take on WoW so fast. RIFT is basically WoW at the end of the day, so I find myself wondering "why bother?"

it's a good game (so is wow for that matter) but i wish the reviewers would play a game for a lil longer than just a few levels before doing their review; after all we are in a genre of games where people play for months and years, not days and hours.

This game is Alright and it has some interesting mechanics to the game with classes,the rifts and all i played wow for a long time and if you look at all the raids and everything its all the same rehashed bosses and all and its dull after i got my 3rd toon to 85 i just cancelled my sub and wiated for rift so i'm kinda killing time playing rift til SWtor & GW2 come out.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel there are way to many rifts and invasions going on at once.

They need to nerf the spawn rate of rifts, increase the difficulty of them, and increase the reward substantially.

This would make rifts stand out and would entice people to actually WANT to do them later on in levels. They lose their fluff way too early.

What killed rift for me where the dungeons at 50. The very last thing I wanted to do was rerun the instances I did while levelling with 1 extra boss added and some new boss tricks. To me this felt as a completel cop out by trion. There should fo been new level 50 only instances not rehash every existing instance. The fact that trion did this completely invalidates the Rift has more endgame than Wow did at release. Wow did not copy old instances at release just to add in "content". I am not a Wow fanboy either. I cancelled my account a year ago and have not looked back. But if blizzard did what trion did and rehashed old content at release then Wow would of had twice the end game at release than rift does.

Rift was a very fun game levelling up. but oncd you hit 50 the game falls completely flat on it's face. Pvp is horrible with to many fotm builds and classes that do not need to be nurfed getting nurfed. I understand classes need to be balanced. Maybe trion is better now, but they had a bad habit of "balancing classes" instead of fixing bugged skills that were making certain builds op.

Perhaps in the future Trion willa ctually add new original content for max levels. But if you want to know what end game rift is... just look at the instances you're running now add a few mobs, make the bosses a little harder and you have it. In all honestly I'd kill someone to have a good modern remake of the original EQ.

lmao

Originally posted by erictlewis

All I can say is ROFL!!!!!  Wow replacement you got to be kidding.  I can see this is going to be a flame fest in progress. I am going to go cook popcorn now.

 lmao

 

Originally posted by Karnage69

Maybe it's just me, but I feel there are way to many rifts and invasions going on at once.

They need to nerf the spawn rate of rifts, increase the difficulty of them, and increase the reward substantially.

This would make rifts stand out and would entice people to actually WANT to do them later on in levels. They lose their fluff way too early.

This is more and less exactly the same thing I said in the beta forum already. Too many rifts just make me want to ignore the whole thing and just run past them, they feel like the same thing everytime and you don't get far without running intoi a new.

Dynamic events should be fun, not like killing 10 rats but because they pop up so often and the fact that they are so easy makes the whole thing a lot less fun then how it should be.

Fewer and harder rifts with slightly better loot would make the game more fun.

I don't really see how Rift could be Wows replacement, possibly EQ2s or LOTROs. If Wow ever gets and replacement (which I somehow doubt, I think the time when 1 game is so much bigger than the rest is comming to an end soon) it would most likely be GW2 or Titan.

Trion are not bad but they can't go head on with Blizzard and Arenanet, at least not now. Maybe for their next game, they do have some pretty talented people but they still need more experience and a slightly better budget.

I was never a huge Wow fan and certainly never played it for long periods of time.  But I can say this.  I believe Rift is a very well put together game with developers who really care about what their players want.  I think it combines a lot of tried and true aspects of other MMOs as well as some unique ones on it's own.  I have been very happy with Rift and will continue to be a dedicated fan.

I do like this game alot , especially the class systems. but im really just switching to Rift from WoW till TOR comes out.

Feels like ive been waiting forever for that game to come out....

Some of us saw Rift as having some softcore sandbox options (conquering zones by disabling towns, wars over rifts, etc). While these are being added in, the simple fact of the matter is that it's still very much a theme park game. I've been leveling up without questing much (aside from getting the bounty hunter title, I haven't done any non-event related quests or non-pvp dailies) since lvl 11, and I'm currently 46. However, players got sick of rifts pretty quick. Players didn't ever get real serious about the wardstones. Most people hit the level cap by simply running quests and dungeons. There are other ways of doing it, but it's difficult to find others who aren't racing to the end.