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  SBFord

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OP  4/14/11 10:32:22 AM#1

In his latest column devoted to Funcom's The Secret World, MMORPG.com Lead Writer Bill Murphy takes a look at the recently released trailer "Everything is True". The trailer featured some interesting tidbits of information based on some of the most virulent urban myths every created. Bill takes a look at some of those myths and wonders what they could mean to the game. Check it out!

But I’m guessing that the video is more about the sorts of enemies, locales, and supposed mysteries we’ll be helping to uncover in the game than any massive ARG in and of itself. Of course I could be wrong, but let’s suppose for a second that I’m not and try to decrypt a few of the trailers buzz-phrases and what they could mean for the game. For the ones I leave out or simply don’t have a clue on, please do step up and smack me on the head to correct me. I crave it.

Read more of Bill Murphy's The Secret World: Everything is True?

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  onehunerdper

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eh.

4/14/11 10:47:48 AM#2

Hmm honeslty, I thought the eleven missing days were just talking about some sort of mass blackout at the beginning of the dark awakening on earth or whatever the game's story will start from.  Never thought about it having to do with some sort of ancient myth or anything, I guess that makes more sense.



  Yalexy

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4/14/11 10:48:34 AM#3

If they manage to deliver good and fun gameplay paired with all this mythic and historic stuff and a 3-way world PvP ontop of all that then this game will be great actually.

All those references made in the video can be read about if you just google it and that's what Tornquist wants us to do actually to solve the riddles in the game. I find this approach quite interesting, and it definately helps to educate some people in the process :p

Lilith for example was Adams first wife in the garden of eden, and she was expelled after she decided not to be Adams slave, as she was made by god aswell and not out of a rib from Adam like Eva was afterwards.
So now Lilith straves around at night, according to the old jewish texts, seducing young men while asleep and killing babies.

  imouthos

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4/14/11 11:11:12 AM#4

Huh, on the 11 days are missing thing I thought they were talking about this:

http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/everyday/030902.html

The beekeeper thing is interesting - I thought it was a reference to the "disappearing" bees phenomenon that was going on a few years back, but yours is a bit more plausible - especially considering this:

http://www.sanctuaryofsecrets.com/

When I saw The Hosts, the first thing I thought about was Werewolf from nWoD (New World of Darkness). There's an entity in that called the same thing that's like an animal spirit that merges with humans to create a were-animal (I don't remember the specifics, I decided nWoD sucked and stopped reading :-P). 

I'm sure most of this stuff has probably been solved over at the main forums, but I tend to avoid them. The guys over there are way too sharp and rip through these things like they're nothing so I don't get a chance to even try and figure them out.

  Sovrath

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4/14/11 11:21:26 AM#5

the Sanctuary of Secrets is indeed in the Secret World. I do wonder if it links the actual dying off of bees which has been happening at an alarming rate for several years and no one knows why.

The Hollow Earth is an easy one. There was a point in time where some believed that the Earth was hollow and that many of the lost species such as dinosaurs still lived inside the earth. An expedition was even planned to the north pole and find an entrance and John Quincy Adams is said to have been willing to fund the expedition.

A gentleman by the name of Charles Fort wrote extensvely about this as well as other "natural phenomena".  ( I actually wrote a piece  of music about a fictionalized Charles Fort called "Charles E. Fort leads his regiment into the Void" with the void symbolizing all of the "unknowns" that he touted as truth. E stood fo Enigma as I felt the title needed an extra beat ; )   )

  Feydaway

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4/14/11 11:25:17 AM#6

Just the dialogue here in this thread alone makes this my go-to game of the fall.  I can't wait to play anything that opens up these Pandora's boxes. 


  infofront

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4/14/11 12:04:52 PM#7

Every veteran MMO gamer ends up futily searching for years for a game that will rekindle the sense of awe, wonder, and excitement that their first MMO brought. Its pretty early to tell, but this looks like just the kind of game that could do it.


  MMO.Maverick

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4/14/11 12:15:57 PM#8

Nice finds, in the article as well as in the posts

 

As for the eleven days, I thought indeed too that this was a referral to the 11 days that went missing when the calendar got adjusted to the one we know today.

'The bees are returning' is a nice mix with a real conspiracy theory or mystery buzz that went around, when a few years ago massive amounts of bees flew off from their hives never to be seen again. It happened to such extent, that it got the attention of a lot of people and was cause for a lot of newsarticles and speculation (see here for an example).

'The earth is hollow' is a referral to Agartha, which is supposed to be ingame as well.

'The Host' is very likely a reference to the Host as talked about in combination with the Wild Hunt, which this source describes:

'The Sluagh and the Wild Hunt, Also known as The Host, the Sluagh (sloo-ah) are the Host of the Unforgiven Dead, and the most formidable of the Highland faerie people. They were believe to travel above inhabited places around midnight. In some accounts, the Sluagh are fallen angels rather than the dead'

So, the Host is a description of faerie folk and other supernatural races like the elves, pixies and the sort encountered in folklore tales. In noe of the videos a glimpse could be seen of a faerie visiting an old english bar.

 

'Portals in time and space', from one of the videos we already know of one time travel where you're dropped into a grim futuristic nightmare version of the world where it is shown to you as player what will happen if the darkness isn't stopped.

'The Ark' reference made me think of Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  ConjureOne

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4/14/11 12:24:39 PM#9
Originally posted by imouthos

 

http://www.sanctuaryofsecrets.com/

 

this link is only static... what is this ?

  MMO.Maverick

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4/14/11 12:37:09 PM#10

Oh, btw, this is the full list of text lines that flash by in the video:

 

 

This Is How Our End Begins

Now

Powerful forces are on the move

And dark conspiracies converge

As a hidden world is finally revealed

We are in the Fourth Age
Powerful Cabals Rule the World
They Have Kept Us in the Dark
Signals Disrupt our Thoughts
The Host were Here Before Us
They are still here
There is a City on the Moon
Eleven days are missing
The Earth is hollow
The Wagtail has arrived
There are Portals in Time and Space
The Bees are Returning
The Eight watch over us
Solomon's Key unleashes Hell
The Tower of Babel never fell
The Old Gods are awakening
Atlantis rises
The Ark of the Covenant is an Engine
Stonehenge is a Beacon
The Fountain of Youth is Poisoned
Immortal Beings walk the Earth
The planets are aligning
The End of Days are here
Everyone must choose a side
The Dark Places are Crawling
The Filth will Corrupt us all
The Morning Light burns
Demons march against us
The Dreamers whisper
  A Blight befalls the Garden of Eden
We have dug too deep
Lillith's Children are unchained
Pandora's Box is opening up
There is a secret world
Everything Is True

Dark Days Are Coming

 

'Old Gods' made me think of Neil Gaiman's novel American Gods too

Since all of these make their appearance one way or the other, the city on the moon and the time portals among others sound interesting.

 

 

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  Meowhead

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4/14/11 12:40:15 PM#11

Good catch MMO Maverick, but you missed a line.

Fnord.

  MMO.Maverick

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4/14/11 12:45:06 PM#12
Originally posted by Meowhead

Good catch MMO Maverick, but you missed a line.

Fnord.

Eh... yes... I guess I missed that one. It must have been a subliminal line or one only recognisable by ESP perceptive people.

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  madlocks

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4/14/11 12:50:20 PM#13

Also if you watch the trailer for the beginning in London.  The woman got her powers when a bee flew into her mouth as she slept

  Meowhead

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4/14/11 12:54:52 PM#14
Originally posted by madlocks

Also if you watch the trailer for the beginning in London.  The woman got her powers when a bee flew into her mouth as she slept

Ouch.  That's not a happy way to get superpowers.

Reminds me of the opening part of the (super-obscure) RPG deSpiria, where you actually stick this... centipede... crawly insect thing up your nose to power up your esper abilities.

Super powers you get from ingesting living bugs better be DARN good. :(

  mukin

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4/14/11 1:00:02 PM#15
Originally posted by Sovrath

The Hollow Earth is an easy one. There was a point in time where some believed that the Earth was hollow and that many of the lost species such as dinosaurs still lived inside the earth. An expedition was even planned to the north pole and find an entrance and John Quincy Adams is said to have been willing to fund the expedition.

This is the second reference to the poles.  The other is 'The Wagtail Has Arrived', a reference to an ill-fated North Pole expedition by Roald Amundsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Amundsen), I think:

Amundsen disappeared on June 18, 1928 while flying on a rescue mission with Norwegian pilot Leif Dietrichson, French pilot Rene Guilbaud, and three more Frenchmen, looking for missing members of Nobile's crew, whose new airship Italia had crashed while returning from the North Pole. Afterwards, a wing-float and bottom gasoline tank from the French Latham 47 flying boat he was in, improvised into a replacement wing-float, was found near the Tromsø coast.

It is reported by some that Amundsen’s last entry in his diary (which he left back home in Uranienborg) was: "The wagtail has arrived."

We're going to the North Pole...which will take us to the center of the earth...where there will be dinosaurs...and maybe Amundsen (afterall, he didn't DIE, he DISAPPEARED).  

How's that for connecting [some of] the dots?

[As an aside, here's an interesting bit of trivia: A large crater covering the Moon's south pole is named Amundsen.  Hmmmm...]

  Sampparound

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4/14/11 1:49:22 PM#16

While I understand that "The Old Gods" can make people think about Neil Gaiman's American Gods, it is in my mind a clear reference to the Cthulhu mythos by H.P. Lovecraft. Just a tad more evil that way. *grin*


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  Feydaway

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4/14/11 2:08:21 PM#17

The 'bees' line simply refers to the somewhat recent disappearance of tons and tons of honey bees.  No one knows how.  No one knows where.  But, they disappeared.  And, now, in Secret World, they are returning.


  imouthos

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4/14/11 2:45:11 PM#18

Thanks MMO.Maverick for the transcription. "The Eight watch over us" made me think of the Ogdoad: a psedjet or group of gods/goddesses worpshipped together in Egyptian culture.  However if it was referring to that it would have probably called "The Eightfold" instead of "The Eight" so it may be talking about The Eight Immortals from Chinese mythology (which I honestly only knew about from that movie "Forbidden Kingdom" :-P). WIkipedia had some great info on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Immortals

  MMO.Maverick

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4/14/11 2:50:55 PM#19
Originally posted by Feydaway

The 'bees' line simply refers to the somewhat recent disappearance of tons and tons of honey bees.  No one knows how.  No one knows where.  But, they disappeared.  And, now, in Secret World, they are returning.

Hehe, yep. I like this mixing up of real life mysteries, urban myths and conspiracy theories with the myths and legends that'll be in TSW, makes for a nice added immersion.

 

Originally posted by imouthos

Thanks MMO.Maverick for the transcription. "The Eight watch over us" made me think of the Ogdoad: a psedjet or group of gods/goddesses worpshipped together in Egyptian culture.  However if it was referring to that it would have probably called "The Eightfold" instead of "The Eight" so it may be talking about The Eight Immortals from Chinese mythology (which I honestly only knew about from that movie "Forbidden Kingdom" :-P). WIkipedia had some great info on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Immortals

Nice find!

It could be those Eight that is being referred to, since one of the flashlines was 'Immortal Beings walk the earth'.

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  lunatis

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4/14/11 4:20:22 PM#20

About the bees...


Couldn't it just be that  they're massively dying now (you can read about that everywhere) because of weather changes. Couldn't it just be that in the future where The Secret World is time framed, bees were instinct, and now they're comming back?


I don't know, I don't think you have to search too far for this one. It could just be the "the world went to apocalypse and now things get better.


About the things with the bee going into a person's mouth to give her super powers, well, maybe they're going to call a Faction the Bees or sometjhing because they inherit their powers from them?


So basicaly the Bees are returning could mean that this faction is getting stronger?


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