Hopped on my brothers account to check it out and it seems like it is the same old, same old routine with a new title.  

Originally posted by imanorc

Hopped on my brothers account to check it out and it seems like it is the same old, same old routine with a new title.  

 I've seen some ridiculouly fun quests though. Not all of them, but some were excellent.

spoiler:

Quest: hide under a crate and listen in on a conversation. You equip your crate and...you're a guy with a crate on your head. Me, reading the quest and using common sense decide to approach the location by water, keeping all my body but the crate-head submerged. As i approach location I see a shaman with a crate on his head run into 5 elite bodyguards and getting demolished. (I think the point of hiding was for the guards not to see him, not for him not to see the guards).

My only dissapointment: 250 quests and zero group quests. 5-mans are very improved over wolk ones, but qusting is a solo business entirely.

but again...it's the same game. it's an expansion not a new game. it's...supposed to play the same.

Originally posted by imanorc

Hopped on my brothers account to check it out and it seems like it is the same old, same old routine with a new title.  

Why are people so surprised? They told you what you were going to get and you act like there was some kind of conspiracy to get you to buy the game. They changed 1-60 content, added 2 classes, and a few other gimmicks. The game never said it would play different or there it was now harder to level! Face it you got hyped and payed your $40.

Actually .. I"m pretty sure it was a Blizzard commerical on TV, that said 'it's not the same" blah blah blah..  UMM.. so when people bought that sales pitch, it's their fault?  Interesting..

I'm pretty sure they were talking about looks of some areas not so much gameplay.  No company in their right mind would completely revamp the gameplay of a successful game.

Originally posted by NetSage

I'm pretty sure they were talking about looks of some areas not so much gameplay.  No company in their right mind would completely revamp the gameplay of a successful game.

cough sony cough

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by NetSage

I'm pretty sure they were talking about looks of some areas not so much gameplay.  No company in their right mind would completely revamp the gameplay of a successful game.

cough sony cough

Cough DAOC/Mythic Cough

Goblin zones have the best quests in any game...EVER!

I have to agree that it's still WoW but somehow I have much more fun! I'm waiting on all of the upcoming MMOs but I think right now WoW is a great time waster!

Best. Game. Ever.

The quests everyone finds cool i just think are not that interesting at least to mean its nearly 2011 and all you can offer me is me putting a crate on my head and swimming across a lake. I think that is probably an idea done many years back with an indie title that went under later. Wow has never been nor will it ever be a great questing mmo lets face it wow is all about end game the game has been around for 6 years and this is the first time imo the lowbie zones have truly been updated. Cata is a cool idea yes but i was better off just leaving it as what i thought it was in my mind than actually playing it because in reality it doesnt change as much as i think everyone here posting on the forums was hoping for. My main problem with being honest on this forum is some people refuse to flaws in this game its much like when i say one negative thing about call of duty people absolutely flip because if somethign is best selling it must be flawless right??? Wrong just because a game is best selling it does mean its the most polished game on the market and appeals to the larger crowd and i will not deny that COD and WOW are both the most popular games in their genre but I just really wish that questing would really be more interesting or they would just gift me my 5 levels. Judging by the number of people already at 85 i think they chose to gift you 85 lvls im sure the game has some interesting quests but its nearly 2011 and id like to see more from the "best". However, i will still be playing wow despite my trys to quit it all together wow does lose appeal to me much like the op I play for 5-6 months and then quit for years and that is mainly because wows moves so smooth no other game can compete or begin to compete with that and it has the highest player base. MMORPGS are all about player bases so to the OP I hope 2011 brigns what your looking for.

Originally posted by Rydeson

Actually .. I"m pretty sure it was a Blizzard commerical on TV, that said 'it's not the same" blah blah blah..  UMM.. so when people bought that sales pitch, it's their fault?  Interesting..

 Yes, a sales pitch is designed to lure in those who don't look a little more closely at something before jumping in head first.

Don't get me wrong, if I were new to MMO's, WoW would probably be the best thing out there.  Very simple play style (3 buttons and you're a pro raider), charming "cartoony" graphics, very smooth gameplay, huge community.   

It is amusing though the number of posts on a wide variety of forums from players basically amounting to "I was told it would be all new and improved".

The complexity of making even fairly small scale changes (skill tree, pathing etc) in a game of this magnitude are immense - the amount of planning and work-hours that must have gone into the landscape changes, spawn point updates, random npc paths etc is staggering. To expect a game that also changes fundamental mechanics to be 'better' is unrealistic and would probably lose more subscribers than it would attract from being 'new'.

Millions of people play the game the way it is because they enjoy the experience. Hands up all those who think Blizzard are willing to take the chance that significantly changing that experience will be worth it?

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Didn't think so.

Originally posted by maxtlion

It is amusing though the number of posts on a wide variety of forums from players basically amounting to "I was told it would be all new and improved".

The complexity of making even fairly small scale changes (skill tree, pathing etc) in a game of this magnitude are immense - the amount of planning and work-hours that must have gone into the landscape changes, spawn point updates, random npc paths etc is staggering. To expect a game that also changes fundamental mechanics to be 'better' is unrealistic and would probably lose more subscribers than it would attract from being 'new'.

Millions of people play the game the way it is because they enjoy the experience. Hands up all those who think Blizzard are willing to take the chance that significantly changing that experience will be worth it?

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Didn't think so.

 

 

 

Din't you make this same speech at the end of Everquest?

Everytime you see a deathwing comercial, just picture Activision executives rubbing $100 bills all over themselves.

It lost it's appeal for alot of folks, but unfortunately most cling to as a social networking tool more than anything else.  COMON 2011, bring on the interesting stuff!

So far, what I'm seeing with this expansion is

LESS FREEDOM

ZERO CHALLENGE

WOW has gone way beyond the "no-death-penalty-because-it's-not-fun" days to "no-challenge-because-not-always-winning-isn't-fun".

The result?  Game isn't fun.

For me, the biggest problem with WoW is that it is fundamentally the same MMO it was when I started playing five years ago.

When I think about what I do for fun, I am having trouble coming up with anything else I have done consistently for that long.

For me, time to move on.  But I will say that I would recommend WoW to anyone who hasn't played an MMO.

 I got cata and honestly i have done maybe 3 quests in the new zones the game for whatever reason be it me just being tired of it of whatever else has lost it's appeal.The goblin zone I will say is awesome.But ever since they did the patch before expansion my mind keeps going back to the same thing.Comparing it in my mind to free realms or lego universe it has just gotten to where it is a unchallenging but fun kids game where your rewarded for reallly doing nothing and you rarely ever lose a fight.I guess i am just getting old I miss alot of my older mmogs where you actually had a chance to do,had to be aware of your surroundings and it took some thought to get things done.

   Again not a gripe on blizzard they are giving people want they want and there content is always nice but to me it has just gotten to the point where lego universe takes more skill to play which tells me maybe it is time to move back to more adult games.

Originally posted by NetSage

I'm pretty sure they were talking about looks of some areas not so much gameplay.  No company in their right mind would completely revamp the gameplay of a successful game.

Except Sony haha

The fact is whether people admit it or not WoW is no longer a hardcore MMO like it was (kind of) pre BC, all the expansions they come out with make the game easier for non-hardcore players. I think when they made the orignal game it was made with passion, by people who wanted to change the world, now all of these expansions are just those people trying to maintain that world instead of going above and beyond what they have previously done they just want to keep the people in that world happy.

Since in MMOs for every 1 hardcore player there are hundreds of casuals, for WoW that would be for every 1 hardcore player there are THOUSANDS of casuals, Blizzard has decided to cater to the larger player base instead of the handful of hardcore players. A smart business move, but bad for the hardcore players.

They wont completely change the gameplay, that would be stupid, and updating the graphics engine would result in many players quitting because of lag or not being able to run the game.

If they change to much it wont be WoW, and many many players will quit, so those expecting any expansions including this one to change the world you are mistaken, that will never happen.