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General Discussion  » PayPal ONLY means the company is financially unstable.

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12/03/10 2:27:58 PM#41
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by keitholi

The OP obviously has no clue what he is talking about. I have been using paypal forover 6 years and have NEVER had a problem with it. In most cases I find it far easier than putting in all my CC info on the website, when I can click one button to go to paypal, login and then press one more button to pay it and be returned to the website.


I have also had 2 different occassions where using paypal as my payment type prevented me from getting scammed bad. I was able to promptly open a review after not receiving my goods, they performed and investigation and I was awarded my funds back.


There is also the fact that using CC's requires a hell of a lot more setup and costs than using paypal. You need to get a processor, pay the processor on a transaction based fee scale, pay for the software and pay for support (not always, but most processors I have dealt with do). So pay a small % to paypal, or incur all these bigger charges to set up CC's so you can buy your $3 trial and quit.


Try getting a bank account instead of using a pre-paid debit card, n00b.

While PayPal is great, doesn't this just back up his claims that they are financally unstable? While it does seem like the better way to go for now, stating that paypal is the cheaper way to go just backs up his claims.

I'm not agreeing with the OP at all, just saying.

 Just saying what? That you, like the OP, do not know what the term Financially Unstable means ROFL.

Wow this is just sad /facepalm


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12/03/10 2:31:56 PM#42
Originally posted by NetBlaise

Paypal is the best form of payment. They don't have to pay fee's for each credit card used

Actually its the easiest and safest. However its also the most expensive on the company. (They take a percentage) I looked into all of this when i was going to start a online busisness.

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12/03/10 3:32:40 PM#43

  Seems like PayPal is being used for many online transactions now, and PayPal will most likely be used even more into the future.  Honestly, I too was surprised that they do not have an option to just use a Credit Card through their site, however the game literally just released and they have already talked about adding the option in the future.  At the moment, they are an Indie company with a product that is more polished than some currently out there on the market by much larger publishers.  (Personal opinion of course ;p)


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12/03/10 3:33:36 PM#44

What PayPal does is "Aggregate" credit transactions, which is forbidden by the associations (Visa, MC, Discover, Amex, etc). Why they haven't cracked down on PayPal is beyond me, but I suspect its something along the lines of "We're making craptons of cash off of fees on PayPal transactions, so why crack down and lose business?"). Most of the "merchants" on PayPal would never pass due diligence to be allowed to process credit transactions (have to have a bank, a bank account with cash in it, be stable, legal, etc etc). PayPal hides all that and presents themselves as the "merchant" to Visa/MC/Discover... which is against the rules....

Ahh well.


Just be careful with PayPal and your account info...


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12/04/10 1:33:28 AM#45

4 chan loves to brute force paypal, all those cc and bank account numbers stored for convenience, nothings hack proof people, and the bigger the target the more they try, just look how many wow accounts they hack daily off blizzard.

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12/08/10 4:03:30 AM#46

Paypal banns wikileaks i cancel paypal no more perpetuum for me. no big loss anyway crappy eve rip off


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12/08/10 9:11:32 AM#47
Originally posted by UnleadedRev

Nothing says it better than a PayPal only game. In all due respect to the Indie Devs for this game....

If you want me to take your game seriously and risk money trying it, then accept credit and debit cards!

Otherwise, since this game was unheard of until recently, with no reviews or previews by PC Gamer, GameSpot, etc, my fear is that it will be like 95% of the other games on this website...that being trash.

 I disagree with you. Small indy companies sometimes are fun than mainstraim AAA titles do. Sure they may not have 1 billion subscriptions, but they don't have half a billion kidies running around either making the community unenjoyable. This is a sandbox game after all and I prefer my sandboxes to have mature players in them for the most part.

And as far as Paypal goes I am sure they have plans for credit cards they are a small company atm give them some time. However I do agree with you on the fact that they do need to accept credit cards in addition to paypal.



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12/08/10 9:31:04 AM#48

We just enabled Moneybookers payment, with more options on the way.


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12/09/10 8:56:48 AM#49
Originally posted by maxeborn

Paypal banns wikileaks i cancel paypal no more perpetuum for me. no big loss anyway crappy eve rip off

 Same boat here

No way i'm gonna stick with Paypal now since they ban Wikileaks.

Most of you don't give a damn but i do

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12/09/10 11:13:21 AM#50

I don't agree with this at ALL.


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12/09/10 1:17:25 PM#51

I have never seen so much rubbish in my life lol.

Paypal is a payment service provider or PSP.

There are many payment service providers, the fact that you assume the company is trying to engage in fraudulent activities because you have heard the name of the PSP before is absolutely ridiculous.

They probably chose Paypal because there are paypal integration modules and a lot of support for almost every web language. A larger company with several websites might pick a different PSP but it does not mean they are financially unstable, for a lot of companies its a wise move that offers the consumer an extra level of protection. It is true that paypal has some of the highest fees of any PSP so this doesn't make it a wise decision.

Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL


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12/09/10 3:26:06 PM#52

Game can be paid for by Moneybookers now. but they are similar to PayPal from what I see.


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12/09/10 3:30:11 PM#53

LOL, no way would I not play a game I wanted to because of whether or not a payment provider supported wikileaks.

There's causes worth dying for out there folks, but this isn't one of them.

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12/09/10 3:56:12 PM#54

Who cares if payPal supported wikileaks... As long as they provide decent service and do what they supposed to. never had problems with PayPal and hopefulyl won't.


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12/16/10 10:50:48 AM#55
Originally posted by Kyleran

LOL, no way would I not play a game I wanted to because of whether or not a payment provider supported wikileaks.

There's causes worth dying for out there folks, but this isn't one of them.

Exactly. While I can admire some of  Wikileaks principles, there is a lot of ambiguity and questionability to thier dealings as well. Wikileaks fanboys should not be so naive.

I certainly wouldn't let it stop me from playing a great game.


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12/16/10 4:48:25 PM#56

Paypal censors free speech & basic human rights.

They can go f*** themselves. End of the story.

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12/16/10 4:52:11 PM#57
Originally posted by vladww

Paypal censors free speech & basic human rights.

They can go f*** themselves. End of the story. opposed to the fine upstanding, basic human rights supporting corporations?  Let me know when you find one of those...


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12/16/10 4:55:50 PM#58
Originally posted by UnleadedRev

Nothing says it better than a PayPal only game. In all due respect to the Indie Devs for this game....

If you want me to take your game seriously and risk money trying it, then accept credit and debit cards!

Otherwise, since this game was unheard of until recently, with no reviews or previews by PC Gamer, GameSpot, etc, my fear is that it will be like 95% of the other games on this website...that being trash.

Credit cards take a huge chunk of the payment.  Maybe they just don't want to share as much. . doesn't mean they are unstable.

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12/16/10 5:01:53 PM#59

Accepting paypal IS accepting credit and debit cards ffs.


If you can't use paypal then YOU are financially unstable, or just dumb.


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12/16/10 5:03:00 PM#60

When I think of Paypal to my mind comes f2p games with cashshop. Just a little thought.

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