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  UnleadedRev

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OP  11/30/10 12:36:31 PM#1

Nothing says it better than a PayPal only game. In all due respect to the Indie Devs for this game....

If you want me to take your game seriously and risk money trying it, then accept credit and debit cards!

Otherwise, since this game was unheard of until recently, with no reviews or previews by PC Gamer, GameSpot, etc, my fear is that it will be like 95% of the other games on this website...that being trash.

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  Dromedarr

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11/30/10 12:44:37 PM#2

what's bad about paypal? I'd love to pay via paypal rather then fill my credit card info everywhere.

  rodingo

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11/30/10 12:44:58 PM#3

Jeez dude, relax.  PayPal ONLY doesn't mean the company is financially unstable. It just means you are pissed off that you can't/won't buy game time with PayPal.  Besides, I read somewhere that they are in the process of setting up payments via credit cards. They are an Eastern European indie dev team. Have some patience.

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  xSagai

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11/30/10 12:48:13 PM#4
Originally posted by Dromedarr

what's bad about paypal? I'd love to pay via paypal rather then fill my credit card info everywhere.

QFT

 

And yes, they recently announced there are other options incoming soon.

  NetBlaise

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11/30/10 12:49:40 PM#5

Paypal is the best form of payment. They don't have to pay fee's for each credit card used

  WhiteLantern

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11/30/10 12:49:53 PM#6

Paypal allows smaller companies to accept credit and debit cards without the hassle of dealing with 4568879243233459 different card companies. Sure Paypal takes a cut, but in the long run, it's likely cheaper for the company.

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  Vrika

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11/30/10 12:50:00 PM#7

So the company is so financially unstable, that you can't take the risk and give them 10 dollar fee and buy 1 month subscription?

I'd say the company must be financially quite stable considering they aren't trying to get quick cash by selling clients/boxes.

  Sovrath

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11/30/10 12:52:35 PM#8
Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Paypal allows smaller companies to accept credit and debit cards without the hassle of dealing with 4568879243233459 different card companies. Sure Paypal takes a cut, but in the long run, it's likely cheaper for the company.

I was going to say something similiar.

Credit Card companies charge a cerrtain amount for each transaction. For a company that is relying on that revenue, that could be more than a cut than they would like.

  JeroKane

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11/30/10 12:59:13 PM#9
Originally posted by NetBlaise

Paypal is the best form of payment. They don't have to pay fee's for each credit card used

This!  I love to use Paypal! 

Codemasters does it too with LOTRO here in Europe. And I like it.

It means I can keep my creditcard info on one place alone. Which is PayPal.

The OP has absolutely no clue whatsoever what kind of responsibility and costs there is involved into setting up direct Credit Card payments.

PayPal is cheap and easy for them. And most important. It's secure. PayPal handles everything! They don't have to worry about all the responsibilities about securing user credit card info in their own database and protecting it against hackers and criminals. And all the other headaches that comes with it.

There is no difference into creating a PayPal account and putting your creditcard info there. Or having to fill in all the creditcard info in their account system. With all the risks that comes with it.

So I really do not see the problem.

  Hellfyre420

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11/30/10 1:02:44 PM#10

Honestly it does suck that they are not letting you use ATM/Debit but i'am sure that they are working on it..

 

I really love experienceing MMO's at launch tho and feel like i'am missing out now because i can't use paypal to register.


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  Robsolf

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11/30/10 1:03:23 PM#11

Boy, are YOU gonna not like shopping in 20 years.

  Skillzeroo

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11/30/10 1:06:00 PM#12

You do realize that paypal accepts credit / debit cards without making an account, right?

 

There is literally no argument against Paypal. You also realize that blizzard themselves accepts paypal. As does EVE. As does MANY other sucessful MMOs. You're an idiot for saying that paypal means an unsuccessful developer.

 

Honestly EVERYTHING online I pay with I prefer to pay with my Paypal. Its just easy.. My tf2 server I pay with, my donations for the server go to my paypal. My MMO payments come from paypal. When I sell computer parts? That money goes to paypal! It offers superior buyer protection compared to credit / debit, it offers an easily visible balance, it offers great buyer protection, and it offers the multiple forms of payment (Donations, goods, gifts, etc)

 

In fact I'd even go as far as to say that games that do not support paypal and only accept credit / debit can be seen as unsuccessful.... AOC Doesn't accept paypal for example.

  Ceridith

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11/30/10 1:07:18 PM#13
Originally posted by NetBlaise

Paypal is the best form of payment. They don't have to pay fee's for each credit card used

No, but they do have to pay a fee per every transaction. For smaller companies it is cheaper to use paypal, but for larger companies CC is cheaper to accept when the volume gets large enough.

  Nethermancer

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11/30/10 1:10:55 PM#14

I would much rather use paypal (and often do if it is an option) rather then giving an indie developer my cc info. 

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  Miles-Prower

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11/30/10 1:12:14 PM#15

Is it possible this is a temporary option until they can get stabalized? I mean the game is rather new..

 

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  Skillzeroo

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11/30/10 1:13:08 PM#16
Originally posted by Miles-Prower

Is it possible this is a temporary option until they can get stabalized? I mean the game is rather new..

 

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Its surely possible but (as I said above) there are quite a large number of companies that have relatively sucessful games that accept paypal. WoW, EVE, Global Agenda for example.

 

And, once again as I said above, paypal=/=unsuccessful dev

  DKKOberon

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11/30/10 1:15:20 PM#17
Originally posted by Hellfyre420

Honestly it does suck that they are not letting you use ATM/Debit but i'am sure that they are working on it..

 

I really love experienceing MMO's at launch tho and feel like i'am missing out now because i can't use paypal to register.

 And why not? You can still use paypal even if you don't have a paypal account. You just have to use your CC with paypal instead of the game company.

 

  Miles-Prower

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11/30/10 1:17:13 PM#18
Originally posted by Skillzeroo
Originally posted by Miles-Prower

Is it possible this is a temporary option until they can get stabalized? I mean the game is rather new..

 

~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!

Its surely possible but (as I said above) there are quite a large number of companies that have relatively sucessful games that accept paypal. WoW, EVE, Global Agenda for example.

 

And, once again as I said above, paypal=/=unsuccessful dev

I never said Paypal was unsuccessful. In fact, I agree with you. I'm just saying that perhaps people who are claiming it isn't successful because of Paypal haven't thought that it's new.

 

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  Elidien

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11/30/10 1:19:01 PM#19

A lot of times its easier for companies to contract out things like billing and payment when starting a new venture. This really would benefit indie companies. Maybe that is what they are doing while looking to create their own internal billing system.

  Skillzeroo

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11/30/10 1:19:39 PM#20
Originally posted by Miles-Prower
Originally posted by Skillzeroo
Originally posted by Miles-Prower

Is it possible this is a temporary option until they can get stabalized? I mean the game is rather new..

 

~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!

Its surely possible but (as I said above) there are quite a large number of companies that have relatively sucessful games that accept paypal. WoW, EVE, Global Agenda for example.

 

And, once again as I said above, paypal=/=unsuccessful dev

I never said Paypal was unsuccessful. In fact, I agree with you. I'm just saying that perhaps people who are claiming it isn't successful because of Paypal haven't thought that it's new.

 

~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!

I understand that, and I was trying to say that just because they're using paypal doesn't mean its because they are new.. They could be using it because its a stable form of payment that has worked for other major MMOs.

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