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  Robsolf

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11/10/10 5:30:09 PM#21
Originally posted by erickdefores

Is there any talk of Star Wars Galaxies going free to play Like EQ2 Extended?  If  so would you play it?

They'd be smart to, but it doesn't sound like a very SOE thing to do...

  User Deleted
11/10/10 5:44:14 PM#22
Originally posted by Robsolf
Originally posted by TUX426

There's one MEGA hurdle facing SWG though...what would they sell?

Unlike EQ2 or LOTRO or nearly any other game, there's nothing for SWG to sell. SWG hasn't had anything more than a tweak for the past 3 years. There are no expansion zones to buy, no "quest packs" to be interested in.

The closest they could get is maybe selling TCG loot, but that removes the whole "luck" thing from the TCG, which is paramount to its success. If players could simply flat out "buy" whatever it is, it would destroy the economy they've created for the TCG. They add in 15 crap items, 3 "nice" items. It's that fight for the RARE that has kept the TCG going.

And face it guys...with 2-3 Devs only, SWG is lucky to be running. There's simply not enough, nor will there ever be enough, developer resources to make it even almost possible. SoE missed their chance with this one.

Very true. 

Knowing SoE, they'd probably take a few classes away in f2p, overpower them, and put them up for sale.  Jedi, certainly.

They could sell off some of the planets, maybe Tattoine and Correlia.  Probably JtL.  All the expansions.  That's about all I can think of, offhand.  Multiplayer and special ships.  "Mounts"...

Its easy.

Offer half the classes & races for free charge for the rest, offer XP potions, Social crap, "mounts", offer the spaceship flight portion of the game as a buyable unlock, Limit currency, crafting and chat, limit use of that quest designer jammy and maybe certain planets.

 

Shit man I could go on and on. they totally could make this game Ftp. my only question is who would actually play it?

  TUX426

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11/11/10 11:32:51 AM#23
Originally posted by Rockgod99
Originally posted by Robsolf
Originally posted by TUX426

There's one MEGA hurdle facing SWG though...what would they sell?

Unlike EQ2 or LOTRO or nearly any other game, there's nothing for SWG to sell. SWG hasn't had anything more than a tweak for the past 3 years. There are no expansion zones to buy, no "quest packs" to be interested in.

The closest they could get is maybe selling TCG loot, but that removes the whole "luck" thing from the TCG, which is paramount to its success. If players could simply flat out "buy" whatever it is, it would destroy the economy they've created for the TCG. They add in 15 crap items, 3 "nice" items. It's that fight for the RARE that has kept the TCG going.

And face it guys...with 2-3 Devs only, SWG is lucky to be running. There's simply not enough, nor will there ever be enough, developer resources to make it even almost possible. SoE missed their chance with this one.

Very true. 

Knowing SoE, they'd probably take a few classes away in f2p, overpower them, and put them up for sale.  Jedi, certainly.

They could sell off some of the planets, maybe Tattoine and Correlia.  Probably JtL.  All the expansions.  That's about all I can think of, offhand.  Multiplayer and special ships.  "Mounts"...

Its easy.

Offer half the classes & races for free charge for the rest, offer XP potions, Social crap, "mounts", offer the spaceship flight portion of the game as a buyable unlock, Limit currency, crafting and chat, limit use of that quest designer jammy and maybe certain planets.

 

Shit man I could go on and on. they totally could make this game Ftp. my only question is who would actually play it?

So are you thinking a new server like with EQ2?

That ruins the whole concept of F2P IMO, but it would open some demand for the stuff you mention.

I just still don't see a F2P SWG being a draw or much of a success. Games like LOTRO and even EQ2 are ADDING content, SWG hasn't had an expansion since before the NGE. Anyone who might have been interested in SWG has likely TRIED it and seen what it offers...there's nothing most fans haven't already 'explored'.

  Ryukan

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11/11/10 11:35:44 AM#24

In the next 6 months I would wager SWG will go f2p or die off. Actually, I am surprised it hasn't gone f2p already. Then again SOE may be cooking up some general f2p model to apply to their failing franchises like SWG and Vanguard.

  Warmaker

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11/18/10 1:25:27 PM#25

I'm just surprised SOE didn't make this title go F2P long ago.  Smed was totally in love with microtransactions years ago.

"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  Daffid011

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11/18/10 1:39:24 PM#26

Making SWG free to play would require a lot of work.  Not only from the viewpoint of coding all the changes, but also changes in the games design to make it compatible with a free to play system.

The current devs struggle to do things as simple as holiday events without major bugs or problems.  Most of the recent game content is released bugged, broken or disfunctional and left that way.  SWG has never been an easy game for soe to develop, because it was rushed to release and redesigned so many times that it just doesn't fit well together.

I highly doubt swg will ever go free to play. 

First it would require lucas arts to sign off and I seriously doubt they would want to risk reviving all the negative press that SWG is when they are about to release a new mmo.  They just layed off staff, so I doubt they want to risk SWTOR on the off chance that soe somehow makes SWG f2p something that will be successful.

Second it would require soe to actually do it right.  They already failed with EQ2X.  They struggle with the simplest of additions to swg currently. 

Third the game servers could not handle it.  Free to play would just crush the servers, because they can't handle normal mmo loads like other games do. 

 

I say the chances of swg going free to play are slim and if it does it will be a complete mess.

  Gdemami

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11/18/10 1:45:31 PM#27


Originally posted by erickdefores
Is there any talk of Star Wars Galaxies going free to play Like EQ2 Extended?  If  so would you play it?

SWG and EQ2 aren't good titles for F2P conversion, imo. Both titles suffer same issue - very dated graphics.

F2P model is based on high player base, something that games with dated graphics won't get.

  User Deleted
11/22/10 6:31:28 AM#28

as nice as proper done F2P would be for SWG but i have to agree just to old mmo and SOE already messed up there top IP in everquest going F2P. SWG is still making money but if it gets bad enough i think good option is lower subscription fee to maybe $7.95 or around that. plus on top of the reduced fee do couple huge updates with just bug fixes and clean the crud out. if you can't F2P least go out fighting. Lucasarts said the want SWG and TOR to co-exist so time will tell.

  Daffid011

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11/22/10 8:22:47 AM#29

Pricing isn't the problem with SWG.   Just like it wasn't the problem holding EQ2 back. 

Cutting the games price in half will just lower revenue.

  jonnyfrag

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11/28/10 11:59:50 AM#30

I certainly hope not. If they do, they will likely copy what they did with EQ2, which was a horrible way of doing it. The game is actually better than it has ever been except for 2 things: the horribly overcrowded laggy Starsider server and the rest of the servers being in various states of deadness. Some of the lowest populated ones, like Gorath and Radiant are positively dead and people on those servers get gated from content even. SWG doesn't need more players running amok on seperate servers, we need new blood and server consolidations to retain the people we still do have.

Played: Asheron's Call(still the best fantasy MMO!), EQ1, EQ2, Vanguard, DAoC, Horizons, City of Heroes/Villians, WoW (crap), LOTORO, D&D Online, Eve, Anarchy Online, and still playing SWG daily.

  TUX426

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12/01/10 10:21:06 AM#31
Originally posted by Daffid011

Making SWG free to play would require a lot of work.  Not only from the viewpoint of coding all the changes, but also changes in the games design to make it compatible with a free to play system.

The current devs struggle to do things as simple as holiday events without major bugs or problems.  Most of the recent game content is released bugged, broken or disfunctional and left that way.  SWG has never been an easy game for soe to develop, because it was rushed to release and redesigned so many times that it just doesn't fit well together.

I highly doubt swg will ever go free to play. 

First it would require lucas arts to sign off and I seriously doubt they would want to risk reviving all the negative press that SWG is when they are about to release a new mmo.  They just layed off staff, so I doubt they want to risk SWTOR on the off chance that soe somehow makes SWG f2p something that will be successful.

Second it would require soe to actually do it right.  They already failed with EQ2X.  They struggle with the simplest of additions to swg currently. 

Third the game servers could not handle it.  Free to play would just crush the servers, because they can't handle normal mmo loads like other games do. 

 

I say the chances of swg going free to play are slim and if it does it will be a complete mess.

I got 1 word for you...DCUO!  (well...4 letters, no actual word I guess, but whatever)

There are at least a dozen former SWG Devs working on DCUO atm (Loche, Deadmeat, Rouge_5 +). Production is NEARLY finished, and early reviews have been quite positive. Shifting them back to SWG for a month would be an easy call if Smed thought he could make some $ off it still with minimal investment.

  ArcAngel3

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12/06/10 3:06:43 AM#32

I had to quit playing this busted farce in order to rediscover my love of Star Wars.  No way I'd go back if it was FTP. 

  just2duh

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12/06/10 3:14:43 AM#33

 With the new one on the way now would be as good a chance to do it as any, sure plenty of people are itching for a SW's game to pass the time in until that releases, some of those likely never even heard of this one (since kotor has generated more buzz, from all sorts of different gamers).

 Gallaxies would probably only serve as a cashgrab and shut the doors though, because I don't really see too many being interested in this once KOTOR releases, going f2p anytime after would likely be somewhat pointless too.

  TUX426

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12/06/10 10:12:43 AM#34
Originally posted by just2duh

 Gallaxies would probably only serve as a cashgrab and shut the doors though, because I don't really see too many being interested in this once KOTOR releases, going f2p anytime after would likely be somewhat pointless too.

This is exactly how it's going to go though, very typical SoE, too little, too late. SoE isn't an industry leader, they're an industry follower. It won't go F2P until Spring/Summer 2011 and by then it'll be too late to capture the waiting SW:ToR fans.

  ArcAngel3

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12/06/10 11:26:02 PM#35
Originally posted by just2duh

 With the new one on the way now would be as good a chance to do it as any, sure plenty of people are itching for a SW's game to pass the time in until that releases, some of those likely never even heard of this one (since kotor has generated more buzz, from all sorts of different gamers).

 Gallaxies would probably only serve as a cashgrab and shut the doors though, because I don't really see too many being interested in this once KOTOR releases, going f2p anytime after would likely be somewhat pointless too.

 "Galaxies would probably only serve as a cashgrab and shut the doors..."  This wouldn't surprise me at all.  If I saw this game go FTP, I'd have to wonder if this was a last grab at players wallets via a manipulative business model before the release of TOR. 

  TeknoBug

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1/01/11 3:01:43 PM#36

It IS possible that SWG could go F2P, they got the freaking trading card that's pedaling in money for SOE (lots of booster pack addicts out there). Even then I probably won't go back to SWG, I'm all dried up on that game.


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