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Agricola1
Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/06
"The one you call messiah is a lie"--- Gary Numan |
10/23/10 3:02:16 AM#21
Originally posted by Renoaku I played FDC and saw the faction leader online twice in 2 months, my clnnies who were online in his timezone and played when I didn't saw him ingame maybe once. They spent all their time playing world of tanks or space station 13 and logged on to dish out punishments probably to make themselves feel better after being pwned in the other games they were playing. I tried to initiate a no confidence vote on the forums and got capital demoted by him (lose all rank/level and lose all xp you ever made) then got fined (lost most money I'd made and increased penalty points) then I got prived (can't work off penalty points = perma death), couldn't change faction despite being subbed because if you still have gear on the yukon you're perma FDC. I complained to the GMs but most of them are faction leaders and friends with the other faction leaders so they told me to STFU. I complained to Duplex and he blew me off and gave me a false address and telephone number. I complained to Nexeon, they wanted to help but just don't know what to do about it. Ultimately it meant I'd wasted about $50 on that game when I could have got the same shitty experience for free. People said to join another faction but to be honest after being treated like utter shit by GMs, DEVs and the publisher I'd rather burn the money than give it to them. In fact I'd give the cash to smedley rather than let those scum have a single dime from me! FoM logo should be "FoM where you're forced to eat a shit sandwich and smile!"
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10/23/10 3:39:39 AM#22
Originally posted by Cathmor So basically Cathmor was interested enough in the game that he played quite actively AND joined the forums (are you guys active on the forums of games you wouldn't recomend?), and when he was kicked out (probably because he's such a nice troll) he comes to mmorpg.com to cry. Your post Cathmor actually made me curious in the game. |
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Cathmor
Apprentice Member
Joined: 5/17/08
I am the closest thing to god, so worship me and never stop. |
Originally posted by WraithHunter If you had read what I posted, it answers most of the points you bring up in your own post. But for the sake of clarity, I'll readdress them: 1. I've been a part of the game's community for 5+ years. In its first incarnation which existed in 2005, it was an amazing game and well worth playing and being a part of the community for. The staff and publishing company was almost entirely different (though not much better) and the developer actually had people working with him. 2. The game goes through several milestone patches which completely alter it, culminating in an engine change and a final form which he went to P2P with. The game slowly declined, however, because the changes he made in this version (and continued to make), coupled with GMs/CMs who actively crushed player freedom, and eventually was canceled by his then publisher. 3. Roughly 1 year later, the game returns to development with a new publisher and the developer (now a one man show) heavily alters it again. This led into the first CB which started about 1 year ago. As it has progressed, the developer and his publisher (who runs the forums/billing) have progressively become more and more anti-player, seeming to only be interested in making money, expoliting the communtiy and as it stands now, booting out anyone who disagress with this. I was one of those people, so I was also banned. That is as clear as I can tell you the history. If that comes off as crying to you, you're free to think that. Go ahead and check it out for yourself if you're that curious. You'll find out soon enough that I was right. |
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10/23/10 3:55:04 AM#24
Originally posted by WraithHunter I totally agree with you on that, Wraith.
This kid is signed up for over 2 years and now decides to post just whining about a game. Pitiful. Gamer-4-Life |
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Agricola1
Novice Member
Joined: 1/30/06
"The one you call messiah is a lie"--- Gary Numan |
10/23/10 3:59:28 AM#25
I played for about 2 months and quit myself because the game and community are shite, FoM isn't about making money it's about running a simulation of North Korea where we all pay money to be treated like shit by the GMs and their friends. So much like North Korea they don't have any immigration problems however unlike North Korea they have no affective means of containing the population! Hence the reason why the game is dead!
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Cathmor
Apprentice Member
Joined: 5/17/08
I am the closest thing to god, so worship me and never stop. |
Originally posted by Justley3 Will you please dry my tears with your big manly arms? |
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10/23/10 4:20:05 AM#27
This must be the new trend. Take anyone who says something bad about a game and call him a whiner, if he somehow manages to prove himself honest then act as if you didin´t read the answer and keep saying the same thing all the other trolls are, because we all hate whiners and bashing them allows you to join the cool, mature crew, does it not? So yeah, i want in too : "liek omg, you pleed 5 years liek whi ddin´t je quit befoar" M i cool enough now? *My little Tera videos* Caduceus : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEp3AzhFfTA |
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10/23/10 4:57:59 AM#28
Originally posted by WraithHunter You're awful, try never posting again. |
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10/23/10 5:23:09 PM#29
Originally posted by Justley3 Do the world a favor and learn to read, it's an incredibly helpful skill that makes you seem like less of an idiot. |
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10/23/10 5:57:48 PM#30
Originally posted by Latella I do not know here boss, bad information is usually supported with reference or some kind of back up rather than personal expereince after ban. A trend that I see is that a player supports a game after five years, four of which are all about the game getting worse except the first year of greatness. Ok, so the first year was great, then without any reference or support the OP indicates it continues to go down hill as he experiences. Not uncommon but after the reported ban the game is not trash, or he played trash for four years, and decides to tell everyone how messed up the game is. Personaly, I enjoy information regarding games, good and bad, saves me much time and money, I am just saying that calling a game should be accompained with support or reference other than "do not play this game." Furtheremrore, the game will crash and burn in time as the company decides which path to take in this game, but i see nothing wrong with addressing a player who reports a bad game without some kind of support/reference. |
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10/23/10 6:27:52 PM#31
Originally posted by Cathmor We miss you Cathmor :( |
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10/24/10 7:37:29 AM#32
Well, after Cathmor and me had a short discussion about his ban from the FoM forums, he directed me to this thread. Although I joined Face of Mankind in late 2009, I was very active on the forums, became a semi-popular member of the community, and was part of many movements that attempted to "fix the game". Either way, after two months already, I got to know many parts of how FoM used to be in the era around 2005, when I sadly didn't know the game yet. Very soon I began understanding the "veterans" and from time to time felt a bit like one of them, although I never was one. I played this game with a few two-week-breaks, when the game simply was no fun because it was the same shit over and over again. About six weeks ago I stopped playing, because the game resulted in one huge Team Deathmatch, factions vs factions. This was for sure not the player-driven MMORPG I saw in my early days, and even less what it used to be. A recent patch introduced new OP items, and a bunch of other stuff for paying members, with only one thing that tried to fix a slight aspect of the combat system (which is ridiculous regarding the fact that the game should be centered around RPG, rather than the combat) instead of trying to fix the main problems, that result in the mass of combat, mass of warfare. I replied to the thread, stating that I would finally leave the game, because obviously they were more focused on retrieving treasures out of the sinking ship, rather than fixing the holes in its hull. Two days after I posted that, I logged into the forums in order to read through some suggestions by other players, doing the stuff I always do on the forums: Trying to find points where Duplex can fix it, what was needed to save the game. I was banned from the forums for one year with the reason "SPAM, Harassment, Trolling". That was all I was told, nothing else. I agreed that I am a troll, and that I don't always stay very constructive, yet I could in no way check what exactly the post(s) were they referred to, since I had no access anymore. On the newly redesigned forum support system (another ridiculous thing ... A mass of bans is handed out for criticism, and the forums admin focuses on a new support system (whilst I must say, he has nothing to do with the failure of the game, it's just ... ironic)) I opened up a ticket, asking for a clear reason what happened. The response I got - same goes for Cathmor btw - was that the Forums Admin couldn't find anything in the marked post that would warrant a one year ban - not even any ban. We both got unbanned therefore, yet it is obvious that there is harsh censorship going on, about anything that is criticising the game in whatever way. To clarify this whole thing again: Noone here is whining about being banned or the game being shit. What we say is simply, that this game used to be by far better, but an egocentric dev keeps making it worse and worse, while we need to pay for things that make the game enjoyable and give players the chance to "do" something about the game. The subscription currently isn't worth the money and the ignorance of the development and merchandise staff are insane.
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10/24/10 7:57:21 AM#33
Game's already dead. Post MS1 was still bearable but the current state of the game not only has a piss poor community but also an imbalanced game in and of itself. What we have now is not FoM, it's a virtual chatroom with rampant scumbaggery. |
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10/24/10 7:59:33 AM#34
And massive, useless warfare. |
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10/24/10 3:26:02 PM#35
Hi Tim :) i am still banned for two years and they still gave me no reason for it. Game , censorship, developer and publisher (if you can call NeXeon a publisher) are aweful. |
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10/24/10 4:06:59 PM#36
not to mention the fact that a neXeon employee is insecure about his shady past, and banned two members for around a week for mentioning it. He also deleted their neXeon website accounts so they were unable to buy premium membership. This ties into the private message he sent to Cathmor, stating the reason for Cathmor's ban was for saying something about deterring people from paying for the game. The aforementioned employee said this was unacceptable, turning him into what we all know as a "hypocrite."
(aw shit he's gonna ban me now) |
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10/27/10 2:06:58 AM#37
Originally posted by Agricola1
1) The people that were playing World of Tanks and Space Station 13 were not FDC leadership 2) You and your friends didnt just try and start a no confidence vote, you tried to start a rebellion within the ranks of FDC. You were told many many many time, just contact a GM and if they think you have a case they will start it. Once its started people cant get punished or saying if they think its right. 3) You dont need privs to work off your penalty points.. 4) All you had to do was contact a GM and they would have given you privs back to move your stuff off the Yukon. Or could have asked a HC member if they could restore privs for you to remove your items 5) Most of the faction leaders are not GMs, and most faction leaders cant stand one another 6) Well thats Duplex for you. 7) Nexeon have GM powers and could have done something for you, odds are they couldnt be assed. 8) If a game has a free option/trail its your own fault for not using that first to find out if you like a game or not before paying for it. 9) The GMs/Dev/Publisers are only good at treating us like shite.
Yes FoM is shite, I had been playing from pre-MS1 (2005). In this "new FoM" I had worked my way back up to rank7 (top rank) of the FDC and was running the faction just fine with the other rank7 and the rest of the HC (rank 5-6), when one day a member of staff from Nexeon (publisher) came in to our faction chat and tried to start problem between the lower ranks and HC. When that didnt work he went on to inform everyone in faction chat that, no matter what they were going to make it so the FDC HC had a higher turn over so that the lower rank would think they had a better chance of getting in to the HC and would sub to the game cus of it (you need to p2p to get rank5+). Within 4 weeks ever faction leader in the game got together and started an player rankRP event to remove an inactive senate and replace it with a new one. Everything was going to fine till GM informed people that if they carried on with the actions they would end up losing rank or banned, so many dropped out. They then turned round and tried to pin all this on the FDC HC and set about removed ever member of the FDC HC and 90% of the rank4 (demoted them to rank and banned them from being promoted). The CM informed us that they saw the senate as a selling point and would not allow it to removed no matter how bad it was going and not matter how many people wanted it gone. Later on we found out that the CM had talked to one of the FDC rank7 and told him "We just want people that were HC back in old open beta gone and if you blame it all on them you will be fine" we also found out that the CM was a player back from OOB and had history with old HC. Anyone that tried to tell the players about this got put in a fourm group that removed posting rights, but as it was not a ban they didnt have to give reseons for it or give a date whent hey would be removed. |
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10/27/10 12:05:10 PM#38
I can testify that the game is indeed junky. The developer has a short-sighted vision and no back bone. Pretty much changes whatever the 12 year olds on the forum whine about. Population is next to nothing, the chat system is terrible, game mechanics have slowly devlovled into a super ninja version of Quake. |
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10/27/10 12:07:25 PM#39
Originally posted by Cathmor Worth noting that Cathmor was a leading member of the community, a moderator, a direct advisor to our RP organizers... and in trying to post said opinions and suggestions about the game (again, comign from a five year player, someone who should know what the game needs)... was banned for speaking out. A paying customer, banned for explaining how the game was going to shit. This game has a long way to come before any of you should invest your time or money into it. |
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11/01/10 6:39:07 AM#40
I will have my opinion in sections for the ease of reading. Gameplay : I was introduced to this game by a friend(5 months ago) and I was instantly addicted to the action of the game and being overwhelmed by how complicated it was at the start. I quickly realized that it was impossible to play this game without buying Premium because this game has features to annoy the truck out of you so you stop being retarded and either quit the game or buy premium. After that, the more I started to learn about this game the less interested I became as there is so little to this game and with effort the mindless "eco" is easily mastered. Within 2 months I had more money than 97%(A very accurate estimate based on how many people whined they were broke) of my faction (3.85mil UC) Guess what - The money is completely useless. I really have nothing to say about the combat as it's just as generic as any combat system you can get with a trash booster system and armor that becomes ineffective and [b]HAS[/b] to be replaced after FIVE seconds of combat or you're already at a HUGE disadvantage. Colony battles aren't even worth mentioning as it's just see who can get the biggest squad on whatever time you trigger a final battle with numerous free alts suiciding off edges or to the enemy faction trying to take the colony,and watch your faction not give two shits because they are outnumbered and lose without trying. These things are so broke it's not even fun to fight in them. The imaginary roleplay factor it says it has: This is the biggest joke of roleplay I've ever seen in a game. I would consider me playing as [insert generic hero from game here] more roleplaying than this game has to offer. There is supposed to be multiple factions within this game that have several roles yet none of them ever followed what they were meant to do on paper, NONE. The only one in my time of playing whom even ATTEMPTED to try to follow these was the Brotherhood of Shadows. Nobody takes this game seriously anymore and it might as well be labeled Trollplay rather than Roleplay. I think if I wanted to play an FPS where the goal is to Kill people, die, respawn, die, kill, respawn, and then tell the people I killed or died to "n00b u sux l2p get good gg" I would of just installed Counterstrike. Thats all this game boils down to now. Development: Development for this game goes at the speed of snail. There has been ZILCH new features to this game besides removement of a feature (cone of fire) in the time I played. It was just a bunch of balancing that did absoutly nothing for the game but make it so that people whom have yet to realize that there is no goal to this game enjoy it more. The forums: There are more people that browse the forums and take part in them rather than play this game. There is even 2 nice terms made by the community for these type of people: "Forums of Mankind" , and "Forum Warriors" I consider these players to be the real players of the game as it's the people whom have realized this game has became utter trash. I think if this game was shutdown and premium features were added to the forums there would be more income to this company because of the forums being more entertaining than the game. Overall, TL;DR: I played for around 3 months total and was totally involved with my faction(Brotherhood of Shadows) during this time. The only thing that kept me playing for longer than a week was my friend and the community I had became attached to during that time. The combat system is nothing special, money is useless, roleplay is trollplay, complete lack of features besides what I already listed, and no goal in sight to be reached besides see who can be the most popular with the community. The only thing keeping this game alive is the current community and once they are all banned for giving their opinion and how to fix things; this game is dead and gone. Stay away from this game until the Developer, and publisher A: Get their head out of their ass B. Sell the game. |
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