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  sungodra

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Joined: 8/13/10
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8/23/10 11:51:59 PM#21

Ever since I hear them say that they were trying to attract the wow crowd. That is when I decided all hope was lost with this game. GW2 is gonna be innovating. It  has amazing graphics, and animations. I couldn't see myself paying a sub for a game that wants to clone wow.  I would rather just go with Anet on the B2p format, at least they have something new to bring to the table.

 

Yea, I know that blizzard stole the whole warcraft/starcraft Idea from Gameworkshop, but no excuse to try and emulate them further.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  PeZzy

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Joined: 3/08/04
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8/24/10 1:29:25 AM#22

Why is a Warhammer Online picture shown here?

  Vontrox

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Joined: 7/01/03
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8/24/10 5:50:21 AM#23

2 factions = fail. Every MMO that i have played and has PvP/RvR in it with only 2 factions is doomes a PvP game. It just doesn't work. DAoC was brilliant in RvR.... i just do not understand why they keep bringing out PvP games with only 2 factions, it is plain boring in the end........

  tsprincess

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Joined: 5/14/10
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8/24/10 5:57:59 AM#24

first off the new trailer looks awesome,but then it all starts to go wrong, 2 factions would only work if this was a more inquisitor (rpg) style MMO, but it seems even though its called dark mellenium (also RPG) they are trying to aim for the non RPG crowd, its very rare setting that a space marine will go exploring alone, let alone team up with an Eldar,the races only team up when there is a greater threat, ie Abbadons crusdae, Ghazkul Thrakkars Ork tide and the Tyranid swarm, in the RPG books, inquisitors will use any means to destroy the greater threat (chaos), as a long term tabletop player (20 years) and a long term RPG (inquisitor and dark mellenium) player, i will wait for more info to emerge and try and get on the beta, before i pass proper judgement

  Sauronas

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8/24/10 6:07:35 AM#25

The problem with games workshop games being made in to an mmo is that every race/country is independent in the gw lore. Occasionally a couple races/countries will partner up to battle a common enemy but in the end it's a free for all. There aren't enough players to make that work. Even if a gw mmo was the #1 game, if every race was independent, there wouldn't be enough players to make it fun. WAR is based on a time when 2 massive treaties are made between the "good" and "evil" races to just go at it. Yes there needs to be a 3rd faction and I think they are slowly incorporating one but in the warhammer world there's only a few races/countries that could be considered neutral and even between them it's not like ogres are gonna partner up with skaven etc. With a 40k game you have the same problem. It could be done and it could be awsome but there needs to be enough players to make it work.

  monarc333

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8/24/10 1:29:52 PM#26

Just make sure I can pick a Inquisitor. Thats all I ask. Make it so.

  Runstal

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Joined: 2/18/09
Posts: 35

8/24/10 2:33:04 PM#27
Originally posted by Flex1


Maybe the 2 factions will be something simple like dividing the races into Order and Chaos.

 

Aside from that matter, isn't anyone else bothered by this recycled use of WoW, ROM, War, Allods, etc art style that from a non-Warhammer player perspective feels wrong? I said this elsewhere but what would make this game stand out is perhaps some Gears of Wars art style, not necesarily cutting edge graphics but something dark, with gore and epic dismemberment in its art, dark ambient tones because no battlefield is vivid and lush and rainbowsy.

 

Of cource thats just me and I have never played any Warhammer.

 

As a 40K player I think the graphics they are using fairly represent the 40K world as well as miniatures and artwork. Hell the Ork Biyz trukk looks almost exactly like the plastic model. Also to touch on the darkness of 40K, for me the Darkness is more about the background things going on in the universe than appearance on the screen. There are many bright and vibrant colors in the 40K universe. There is an Entire Ork clan that wears armour and paints their vehicles yellow, The Imperial Fist Space Marines wear yellow armour, The Blood Angels wear Red Armour, The Eldar Crafworlds have many different brightly colored themes. Even Chaos, who you would think would be the Darkest of Dark, have bright colors such as the Pink and Black armour of the Emperor's Children. Even if you look to Chaos Daemons you will see 2 of the 4 Gods favor bright colors, Slaneesh favors just about any bright contrasting colors and Tzeentch like blues purple and pink.

Anyway that is just my thoughts on the graphics. As far as factions, I would have preferred more than 2, but having only 2 won't keep me from playing the game.

  Jellypig

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Joined: 7/28/10
Posts: 129

8/24/10 11:00:07 PM#28

So its going to be another 2 faction affair just like every other mmo, with one side inevitably crushing the other.  Great.  Just fuckin great.  Just what 40k needed.

 

I'm still going to pick this game up bc I'm a huge 40k fan, but I'm certainly gonna be dissapointed as hell seeing as how its another stupid cliche 2 faction affair. 

 

If you're gonna do an MMO that has as much conflict in the universe as 40k, at least have some balls and go 3 factions instead of 2.  At least take a look at WAR and see where 2 factions got it.  Yes, WAR quite clearly had more problems than just being constricted with 2 factions, but you cannot deny that was a big part of the problem with WAR RvR.

  cybertrucker

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8/24/10 11:10:41 PM#29

I am so bored to death with Warhammer... Warmachine is so much better alll around... Nothing about this game excites me.. I am more interested in the Warmachine Game that is in development and its not even an MMO

  Gyrus

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8/24/10 11:30:58 PM#30
Originally posted by Jellypig

So its going to be another 2 faction affair just like every other mmo, with one side inevitably crushing the other.  Great.  Just fuckin great.  Just what 40k needed.

 

I'm still going to pick this game up bc I'm a huge 40k fan, but I'm certainly gonna be dissapointed as hell seeing as how its another stupid cliche 2 faction affair. 

...

And this is why the current trend in sub-par releases continues.

They know that people like you will pay $60 for a turd-in-a-box so long as it has artwork from your favourite IP on the box.

So, they figure out how many boxes they will sell based on that... and spend enough on development not to be prosecuted for fraud.  They figure that even a turd-in-a-box will have some subscription retention by those who hope that the first patch will be a 'miracle patch' and then they may even sell lifetime subs (only available pre-release) to really milk it.\

And if the game is a dog?  And fails in 3 months (but limps on for another year or two...)?  Who cares?  They don't because they made their projected profits.

Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  Jellypig

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Posts: 129

8/24/10 11:42:38 PM#31
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by Jellypig

So its going to be another 2 faction affair just like every other mmo, with one side inevitably crushing the other.  Great.  Just fuckin great.  Just what 40k needed.

 

I'm still going to pick this game up bc I'm a huge 40k fan, but I'm certainly gonna be dissapointed as hell seeing as how its another stupid cliche 2 faction affair. 

...

And this is why the current trend in sub-par releases continues.

They know that people like you will pay $60 for a turd-in-a-box so long as it has artwork from your favourite IP on the box.

So, they figure out how many boxes they will sell based on that... and spend enough on development not to be prosecuted for fraud.  They figure that even a turd-in-a-box will have some subscription retention by those who hope that the first patch will be a 'miracle patch' and then they may even sell lifetime subs (only available pre-release) to really milk it.\

And if the game is a dog?  And fails in 3 months (but limps on for another year or two...)?  Who cares?  They don't because they made their projected profits.

The 2 faction thing so far is the only thing I've ever been bothered with about this game.  It really pisses me off.  

 

I'm going to still pick it up not just because of the IP, but the gameplay style is something I have been looking for in an MMO for years now. 

 

As much as I can't stand the fact that it will be a 2 faction deal, it is not enough to pass the game up over personally.  I still think it will be a great game with the best IP ever.  I just think the game has more potential with 3 factions instead of 2, especially if you've ever played Dark Age of Camelot.

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