So, as an alternative viewpoint to the "Don't play" thread I'm going to take the other viewpoint (and hope some others will join me) to put across why you might want to play STO. I know I do - I'm a Lifetime Subscriber and still enjoying the game!

Please, if you want to say why people shouldn't play the game, go do it over in the other thread.

So, on we go...

1. It's Star Trek - If you're a Trek fan, you'll find familiar races, familiar ships and audio from your fave Star Trek show here in Star Trek Online. Walk around DS9, hear the whoosh of the turbolift doors on your starship, the blast of phasers and the pulse of photon torpedoes being fired!
2. It's Two Games in One - A game of two halves. Not only do you have the space combat flying around in your ship but you also get to go on away missions and run around battling foes, or resolving conflict without bloodshed.
3. Design a Starship - You get to design your own starship/warbird. Choose from a selection of parts, colours and designs. Go with an iconic starship class, or make something new.
4. Cryptic Customisation - Cryptic games are almost unsuppassed for character customisation (see City of Heroes, Champions Online). Be a previously unknown Alien race and let your creativity flow!
5. Expanding World - Level cap has already been raised, new missions have been and are being added (as well as entirely new mission types) and we're only six months in

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

So, as an alternative viewpoint to the "Don't play" thread I'm going to take the other viewpoint (and hope some others will join me) to put across why you might want to play STO. I know I do - I'm a Lifetime Subscriber and still enjoying the game!

Please, if you want to say why people shouldn't play the game, go do it over in the other thread.

So, on we go...

1. It's Star Trek - If you're a Trek fan, you'll find familiar races, familiar ships and audio from your fave Star Trek show here in Star Trek Online. Walk around DS9, hear the whoosh of the turbolift doors on your starship, the blast of phasers and the pulse of photon torpedoes being fired!
2. It's Two Games in One - A game of two halves. Not only do you have the space combat flying around in your ship but you also get to go on away missions and run around battling foes, or resolving conflict without bloodshed.
3. Design a Starship - You get to design your own starship/warbird. Choose from a selection of parts, colours and designs. Go with an iconic starship class, or make something new.
4. Cryptic Customisation - Cryptic games are almost unsuppassed for character customisation (see City of Heroes, Champions Online). Be a previously unknown Alien race and let your creativity flow!
5. Expanding World - Level cap has already been raised, new missions have been and are being added (as well as entirely new mission types) and we're only six months in

At the end of the day, on this forum there are some of us posting trial keys. Try the game out and see if you like it - if you do buy a boxed copy/digital key and stick around for a bit and see if you like it longterm!

 

Anyoe else care to add their good points?

 While I applaud your effort (  and honesty ) to recruit people to not only your fleet , but this game . I must point out a few things .  In red. 

Firstly your so far in you've no choice in the matter , while you still enjoy it , that's great  .  You've invest far to much , and are more concerned about your investment having some meaning .

Two games really ? There are two aspects to combat game play ,but in the end the game is the same , the controls are identical and the results usually end up the same. Diplomacy still bugged , so that you can't progress , or did they fix that ? Pressing F still ? Does it boil down to multiple choice questions at the end ?  What's the end game of diplomacy ?

You don't get to design a ship , you get to assemble the ship from pre-made pieces that Cryptic has determined .  Precisely 3 for each of 3 parts of the ship , example 3 saucer designs, 3 nacelle designs, 3 body . That's 9 varible designs. Colors are restricted to 2 hull colors , and the variablity applies to minor details.  It's not really new designs . Cryptic has made new classes and varied some of the art work , but ulitmately your design is not that individualized , as you 'd like to think. The math means that the chances of running across you design are 1 in 27. How's the variablity in the Klingon faction ?  Iconic ship designs are for the most C-store purchases. ( Warbirds fyi generally implies Romulans )

Have they added any new zones to the game ?  Rephrase that to expanding storyline for more acceptance.

I don't mind the attempt , but it needs to be a bit more factually correct, certain degree of ambigutiy.   In closing I'd hold on to my cash at this point until it goes F2P , which isn't far off.

No thanks, not even if you paid my sub.

I like number two. I'm hoping Cryptic looking into ground combat yields good things.

I also like the difficulty slider now. I think it makes battles a bit more of a challenge.

Just to correct point 1.  It may have a Star Trek (ish) skin, but it is not Star Trek.  Cryptic have broken canon way to much.  They can't even get the basics right, e.g. what Starbase-1 actually looks like.

They are now planning to add the Enterprise J to the c-store, which isn't even built for another 100-200 years from the time frame its set in.  Not only that but the thing is 2 miles long, or at least should be.   They are also adding the Enterprise NX.  So expect whenever (if ever) they add ground vechicles for them to include the Model T Ford.  Apparently Vulcan, Andorians, etc are also their own fraction, as they to are getting their own ships.

To even suggest STO has deep customisation, as they have with CO is insulting to the CO team.  STO has less customisation than quite a few games that are around these days.

As for the final point.  They may have raised the level cap, but they didn't add the content to reach it.  You have to grind most of the increase.  Creating a few new dots for three one off missions isn't exactly expanding the depth of the game.

To Cryptic STO is not Star Trek, its a means of money grabbing from fans of the various series'.  If canon gets in the way of that, they simply ignore it.

thank you for the honest post about what sto does offer. but no thank you, the games not worth the box price let alone a sub.

I picked up a copy of the game and played for a bit. To me it was a nice distraction but honestly couldnt hold my attention  even for the free month. I may at some point try it again and agree that they are working steadily on the game. Being without an MMO myself at this time im truly glad that OP has a game he enjoys.

Everyone is going to have a different idea of what's good for the game.  I have to tell you that some of the things that people are saying break immersion kinda stun me.

There's a topic on the forums right now that is many pages long about how the devs to chose to say "left" and "right" ratrher than "port" and "starboard".  There's another that talks about how one of your officers says "the ship is under attack" when in fact you attacked first.

Now, I don't mean to marginilize anyone's opinion, but truthfully I was like "that breaks immersion for you? Really? Seriously?"

I'm not sure how successful an MMO based on one era would be anyhow.  It's already a niche game.  You are limiting your audience even further by making it all about a single era.

I do get the argument overall though.  I got the game at Gamespot so I got the free Connie, and my single C-Store purchase was TOS uniforms.  I no longer use them because everything around me is so TNG-like that I felt out of place.  So now, I wear the TNG movie uniforms.

Point is, even though they didn't cater to my favorite version of Star Trek, TOS, I can still play.

Everyone's different.  Although, I have to admit some dismay over those who like to define how the Star Trek fanbase as a whole feels.  Like the person above who said something like "most Star Trek fans feel that..."  Uh no, sorry... that's how YOU feel.

Unless you are aware of some study that I am not, please just say that you have no idea if you really don't. Because you really don't!

Then, of course, you have those who complain that it feels like an SP game, then in the next breath they complain about what other players want!  

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

So, as an alternative viewpoint to the "Don't play" thread I'm going to take the other viewpoint (and hope some others will join me) to put across why you might want to play STO. I know I do - I'm a Lifetime Subscriber and still enjoying the game!

Please, if you want to say why people shouldn't play the game, go do it over in the other thread.

So, on we go...

1. It's Star Trek - If you're a Trek fan, you'll find familiar races, familiar ships and audio from your fave Star Trek show here in Star Trek Online. Walk around DS9, hear the whoosh of the turbolift doors on your starship, the blast of phasers and the pulse of photon torpedoes being fired! It Star Trek-ish. The IP was much more about personal interaction and story that this game is now or ever will be.
2. It's Two Games in One - A game of two halves. Not only do you have the space combat flying around in your ship but you also get to go on away missions and run around battling foes, or resolving conflict without bloodshed. Two halves, not one unified game. It is disjointed and not very cohesive.
3. Design a Starship - You get to design your own starship/warbird. Choose from a selection of parts, colours and designs. Go with an iconic starship class, or make something new. A nice one time operation. Whereas in EVE, for example, you can fit, re-fit and continually rebuild your ships via modules. You can build a ship for PVP or for transport or for missions or for hacking or for salvaging all in the same body type, although some not as effective as others.
4. Cryptic Customisation - Cryptic games are almost unsuppassed for character customisation (see City of Heroes, Champions Online). Be a previously unknown Alien race and let your creativity flow!
5. Expanding World - Level cap has already been raised, new missions have been and are being added (as well as entirely new mission types) and we're only six months in Again, a nice one time operation. After the character loading creation screen (which is how much of your game time . . . 1%) its over with.

At the end of the day, on this forum there are some of us posting trial keys. Try the game out and see if you like it - if you do buy a boxed copy/digital key and stick around for a bit and see if you like it longterm!

 

Anyoe else care to add their good points?

 Comments posted.

Can seeing playing this game as the IP has been butchered and the game has been horribly gimped. One faction at release?! wth. Maybe in another year this game will be ready for release.

Well, I knew trying to start a STO positive thread on MMORPG.com was a long shot, thought everyone could keep the positive in one thread, negative in another and allow people to compare and contrast the two.

I truly recommend that people come to their own conclusions about any game and not believe the hype or hatred.

I'm not claiming that Cryptic have made a perfect game, and yes, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market. But... it's here, and you know what? I find it fun despite it's flaws!

Some of the negativity here I agree with, some I think is over-reaction, and some I reckon that the poster had their kittens murdered by Cryptic employees.

Thanks for taking what was hoped to be a constructive post and turn it into yet another whinefest! /flameon

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

Well, I knew trying to start a STO positive thread on MMORPG.com was a long shot, thought everyone could keep the positive in one thread, negative in another and allow people to compare and contrast the two.

I truly recommend that people come to their own conclusions about any game and not believe the hype or hatred.

I'm not claiming that Cryptic have made a perfect game, and yes, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market. But... it's here, and you know what? I find it fun despite it's flaws!

Some of the negativity here I agree with, some I think is over-reaction, and some I reckon that the poster had their kittens murdered by Cryptic employees.

Thanks for taking what was hoped to be a constructive post and turn it into yet another whinefest! /flameon

 wow you just went from an honest post about sto, pushing some of the good things about it..... to

THEY ARE ALL HATERS!!! DONT BELEIVE THEM!!!....

in a hurry didnt you.

please try posting some of the positive things about sto, rather than attacking others. i think you will have better results that way.

(i will mention though that if you post "positive things" about sto, if they are not accurate you will get called on it) 

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

So, as an alternative viewpoint to the "Don't play" thread I'm going to take the other viewpoint (and hope some others will join me) to put across why you might want to play STO. I know I do - I'm a Lifetime Subscriber and still enjoying the game!

Please, if you want to say why people shouldn't play the game, go do it over in the other thread.

So, on we go...

1. It's Star Trek - If you're a Trek fan, you'll find familiar races, familiar ships and audio from your fave Star Trek show here in Star Trek Online. Walk around DS9, hear the whoosh of the turbolift doors on your starship, the blast of phasers and the pulse of photon torpedoes being fired!
2. It's Two Games in One - A game of two halves. Not only do you have the space combat flying around in your ship but you also get to go on away missions and run around battling foes, or resolving conflict without bloodshed.
3. Design a Starship - You get to design your own starship/warbird. Choose from a selection of parts, colours and designs. Go with an iconic starship class, or make something new.
4. Cryptic Customisation - Cryptic games are almost unsuppassed for character customisation (see City of Heroes, Champions Online). Be a previously unknown Alien race and let your creativity flow!
5. Expanding World - Level cap has already been raised, new missions have been and are being added (as well as entirely new mission types) and we're only six months in

At the end of the day, on this forum there are some of us posting trial keys. Try the game out and see if you like it - if you do buy a boxed copy/digital key and stick around for a bit and see if you like it longterm!

 

Anyoe else care to add their good points?

1) No, no it isn't Star Trek. It's a Cryptic-style sci-fi shoot-em-up with a Star Trek skin. Anyone who thinks this is anything even remotely like Star Trek needs their head examined.

2) It's more like two one third of a game in one. Together the space game and the ground game only equal two thirds a game at most.

3) Design an ugly star ship that doesn't look anyth8ing like Star Trek at all.

4) More like "Cryptic craptimization." Pretty soon you'll have to buy what you want from the C-Store, cause that's where all the new costume packs and bridge packs are going.

5) Wow! Stuff that should been in at launch! Actually, there is no world. Shoebox sized instances, inability to beam down to most iconic planets, really crappy astrometrics display, the game "world" is nothing but fail.

Originally posted by Scrogdog

Everyone is going to have a different idea of what's good for the game.  I have to tell you that some of the things that people are saying break immersion kinda stun me.

 

There's a topic on the forums right now that is many pages long about how the devs to chose to say "left" and "right" ratrher than "port" and "starboard".  There's another that talks about how one of your officers says "the ship is under attack" when in fact you attacked first.

 

Now, I don't mean to marginilize anyone's opinion, but truthfully I was like "that breaks immersion for you? Really? Seriously?"

 

I'm not sure how successful an MMO based on one era would be anyhow.  It's already a niche game.  You are limiting your audience even further by making it all about a single era.

 

I do get the argument overall though.  I got the game at Gamespot so I got the free Connie, and my single C-Store purchase was TOS uniforms.  I no longer use them because everything around me is so TNG-like that I felt out of place.  So now, I wear the TNG movie uniforms.

 

Point is, even though they didn't cater to my favorite version of Star Trek, TOS, I can still play.

 

Everyone's different.  Although, I have to admit some dismay over those who like to define how the Star Trek fanbase as a whole feels.  Like the person above who said something like "most Star Trek fans feel that..."  Uh no, sorry... that's how YOU feel.

 

Unless you are aware of some study that I am not, please just say that you have no idea if you really don't. Because you really don't!

 

Then, of course, you have those who complain that it feels like an SP game, then in the next breath they complain about what other players want!  

The "left" and "right" thing do break immersion for me. They do because I've watched almost every minute of Star Trek out there (I think I've missed a few Voyager eps, no big loss though) and they never, ever refer to the port side of the ship as "left," or the starboard side of the ship as "right."

It not only breaks immersion, it's very much against canon. They changed it to this because a few people complained in beta that they didn't know what port and starboard were.

Originally posted by raistalin69

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

Well, I knew trying to start a STO positive thread on MMORPG.com was a long shot, thought everyone could keep the positive in one thread, negative in another and allow people to compare and contrast the two.

I truly recommend that people come to their own conclusions about any game and not believe the hype or hatred.

I'm not claiming that Cryptic have made a perfect game, and yes, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market. But... it's here, and you know what? I find it fun despite it's flaws!

Some of the negativity here I agree with, some I think is over-reaction, and some I reckon that the poster had their kittens murdered by Cryptic employees.

Thanks for taking what was hoped to be a constructive post and turn it into yet another whinefest! /flameon

 wow you just went from an honest post about sto, pushing some of the good things about it..... to

THEY ARE ALL HATERS!!! DONT BELEIVE THEM!!!....

in a hurry didnt you.

please try posting some of the positive things about sto, rather than attacking others. i think you will have better results that way.

(i will mention though that if you post "positive things" about sto, if they are not accurate you will get called on it) 

I don't find any problem on the statement, basically says to draw conclusions based on personal experience rather than others opinions. The problem with hype or hatred is that is usually based on the assumption that everybody likes/hates the same things. I don't like STO and Eve but I like CoH and CO. I also like some f2p that most people of this site would say they are garbage. I think 'objective observations' should be the way to give information, taking away emotionality, without fanboysm or hatred.

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

Well, I knew trying to start a STO positive thread on MMORPG.com was a long shot, thought everyone could keep the positive in one thread, negative in another and allow people to compare and contrast the two.

I truly recommend that people come to their own conclusions about any game and not believe the hype or hatred.

I'm not claiming that Cryptic have made a perfect game, and yes, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market. But... it's here, and you know what? I find it fun despite it's flaws!

Some of the negativity here I agree with, some I think is over-reaction, and some I reckon that the poster had their kittens murdered by Cryptic employees.

Thanks for taking what was hoped to be a constructive post and turn it into yet another whinefest! /flameon

The perfect internet would be one in which we all agree with you and only talk about what you want to talk about!

I find most of the posts in this thread to be intellectually honest and good feedback on Cryptic's product.

Originally posted by Philby

I picked up a copy of the game and played for a bit. To me it was a nice distraction but honestly couldnt hold my attention  even for the free month. I may at some point try it again and agree that they are working steadily on the game. Being without an MMO myself at this time im truly glad that OP has a game he enjoys.

^ /agree

I loved the character creation and the graphics are beautiful, hell even the on foot combat was pretty cool, but the space combat, Oh man the space combat. I was so excited about an MMO where I could be a person, and also blast through space in my ship, but the space mechanics really made me sad.

With regards to no.5


They did not raise the cap, it was always planned from start to be 51. They actually removed those levels before launch.
So not really expanding, just adding what was taken.

No thanks , with all the MMO's comming in the near future why waste money on this garbage !!!

It wont be hard for one of the AAA titles comming out to be better then this, in fact lego online will prob kick this games ass in fun factor.

Originally posted by gandales

Originally posted by raistalin69

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

Well, I knew trying to start a STO positive thread on MMORPG.com was a long shot, thought everyone could keep the positive in one thread, negative in another and allow people to compare and contrast the two.

I truly recommend that people come to their own conclusions about any game and not believe the hype or hatred.

I'm not claiming that Cryptic have made a perfect game, and yes, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market. But... it's here, and you know what? I find it fun despite it's flaws!

Some of the negativity here I agree with, some I think is over-reaction, and some I reckon that the poster had their kittens murdered by Cryptic employees.

Thanks for taking what was hoped to be a constructive post and turn it into yet another whinefest! /flameon

 wow you just went from an honest post about sto, pushing some of the good things about it..... to

THEY ARE ALL HATERS!!! DONT BELEIVE THEM!!!....

in a hurry didnt you.

please try posting some of the positive things about sto, rather than attacking others. i think you will have better results that way.

(i will mention though that if you post "positive things" about sto, if they are not accurate you will get called on it) 

I don't find any problem on the statement, basically says to draw conclusions based on personal experience rather than others opinions. The problem with hype or hatred is that is usually based on the assumption that everybody likes/hates the same things. I don't like STO and Eve but I like CoH and CO. I also like some f2p that most people of this site would say they are garbage. I think 'objective observations' should be the way to give information, taking away emotionality, without fanboysm or hatred.

 really? so the line after the one  higlighted isnt biased?

, I know the general community here seems to be one of outright hostility to the product that they've put out into the market

that statement portrays the legitimate criticism sto has taken on this site as biased. that is untrue, sto has earned the criticism its gets here and elsewhere (including its own forums). this statement portrays the criticism here as being unusual, when its the norm for sto. sto has had bad reviews from everywhere, this site included.

im not saying that people should not make up their own minds, but saying or implying that the criticism of sto on this site is anything but normal is misleading if not an outright lie.

whatever game youve moved on to at this point (if your not playing sto) log in and ask in the general chat what people think of sto, i have, i dont think ive seen any positive feedback besides "it has decent graphics"