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General Discussion  » TOR is the end of solo vs group

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  UsualSuspect

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7/26/10 10:13:26 AM#21

If I could ask one question of the developers it would be, "What happens after the story is over?".

  Caskio

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7/26/10 10:16:32 AM#22
Originally posted by UsualSuspect

If I could ask one question of the developers it would be, "What happens after the story is over?".

Isn't that the same question for any MMO as asking what do I do when I hit max level?

That's where the typical MMO endgame comes in I would think.  What that is for TOR remains to be seen, but all we know is they will have it.

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  arcdevil

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7/26/10 10:18:30 AM#23
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by Kenaoshi

well for me Gw2 is the end of the group vs solo deabte, you are doing an event other player just join in, no need to BEG for party, no need to stop action do invite someone, you just pump in the event increases the dificulty, everyone wins. But hey WIN WIN, end of the debate both in fantasy and sci-fi genres =p

 

Sounds cool on paper. I found the Public Quests in WAR to be very boring.

That was because they were very boring, grindy and static.

kill/gather 50 of this stuff,  then kill/gather 20 if that harder stuff, then kill this boss.

wash rinse repeat.

 

 

GW2 promises something different. Lets see if their asses can cash the checks their mouths wrote.

  Ihmotepp

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7/26/10 10:24:37 AM#24
Originally posted by UsualSuspect

If I could ask one question of the developers it would be, "What happens after the story is over?".

They actually answered that in the video.

First, they want you to play alts. The story is different for each character, and hugely different for Empire vs Republic.

Empire and Republic have zero shared quests.

Same side has different character class quests for each class, but they share world quests.

In KOTOR for example, I played through twice, once as dark side, and once as light side, since the story was different.

the other answer is, expansion packs.

They already said they are designing the game to allow for expansion packs, so no dead end stories.

  Hyanmen

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7/26/10 10:46:29 AM#25

It's just so comical how excited your are about this game as a pro-grouper, Ihmotepp. 

Too bad!

  Comnitus

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7/26/10 10:48:04 AM#26
Originally posted by Hyanmen

It's just so comical how excited your are about this game as a pro-grouper, Ihmotepp. 

Too bad!

They will keep us apart with 50-foot shackles! I SEE THE FUTURE!

  MMO.Maverick

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7/26/10 10:53:29 AM#27
Originally posted by Hyanmen

It's just so comical how excited your are about this game as a pro-grouper, Ihmotepp. 

Too bad!

That's because they've stated they're encouraging grouping in several ways and because they make grouping easier by means of the Companions (no more waiting for a healer when you have 2 tanks + 1 dps and a CC/dps willing to join)

 

Some people grasp what the Bioware devs are trying to say when they've no reason to think they're lying, and don't just go with some vague gut feeling.

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The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  UsualSuspect

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7/26/10 10:53:57 AM#28
Originally posted by Hyanmen

It's just so comical how excited your are about this game as a pro-grouper, Ihmotepp. 

Too bad!

From the way they were talking about it, it sounds like those Planet Quests are going to be group only, they say "Like dungeons in normal MMO's.", so that's a +1 to TOR for me, though I remain wary. I think the story is going to be the only thing worth advancing for, that the end game is basically going to be, "Game Over - Start Again With A New Class!".

  Hyanmen

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7/26/10 10:55:45 AM#29
Originally posted by cyphers

That's because they've stated they're encouraging grouping in several ways and because they make grouping easier by means of the Companions (no more waiting for a healer when you have 2 tanks + 1 dps and a CC/dps willing to join)

Yes, I'm aware he's buying into the hype. Can't blame the guy I guess.

  User Deleted
7/26/10 11:04:43 AM#30

Forced grouping (maybe to do planets) and a cash shop (that they have neither confirmed or denied). This all sounds like speculation so far. Im hoping for a sub based solo friendly experience with no CS myself but will watch and wait.

  Czzarre

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7/26/10 11:09:26 AM#31
Originally posted by uquipu

 


Originally posted by Papadam
So why will it be the end of solo vs group??
 
And to bad you cant play it Ihmotepp since its going to have microtransactions :p



.
SWTOR is going to have a cash shop? Seriously?

IM afraid that we arte now living in a time where microtransactions will more common than not.

Best be ready for that

  MMO.Maverick

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7/26/10 11:16:41 AM#32
Originally posted by Czzarre
Originally posted by uquipu

 


Originally posted by Papadam
So why will it be the end of solo vs group??
 
And to bad you cant play it Ihmotepp since its going to have microtransactions :p



.
SWTOR is going to have a cash shop? Seriously?

IM afraid that we arte now living in a time where microtransactions will more common than not.

Best be ready for that

If you're convinced that WoW, LotrO as PvP as it is now, EVE, AoC, Aion and EQ2 have a cash shop or microtransactions, then yes, then we're living in a time where microtransactions are common.

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  User Deleted
7/26/10 11:19:09 AM#33

For casuals its prolly great game. but i think it will be crap like dragon age, easy(nightmare was no challenge at all) and rippoff(lord of the rings).

Same will happen with swtor two things why it will be crap super easy and copyed most things from other themeparks already on market only diffrence is sci fi starwars setting.

Story will not help make it any better maybe a little hehe.

  knyghttearer

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7/26/10 11:25:58 AM#34

i would like to know where u read that ToR is going to have microtransactions.. i did not see that yet. i did read that WoW is seriously considering going F2P, with the "store" model. they were discussing that in an interview when the were asked about the upcoming competition of LoTR going F2P and the upcoming releases of dcuo,  final fantasy, GW2, and of course ToR. i sincerly hope the F2P doesnt become the norm, but unfortunately i think u r right in fearing that it is...

  knyghttearer

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7/26/10 11:29:43 AM#35
Originally posted by Evasia

For casuals its prolly great game. but i think it will be crap like dragon age, easy(nightmare was no challenge at all) and rippoff(lord of the rings).

Same will happen with swtor two things why it will be crap super easy and copyed most things from other themeparks already on market only diffrence is sci fi starwars setting.

Story will not help make it any better maybe a little hehe.

tis is one of the least thought out posts i have ever read.. ... ur points make no sense, and have absolutely no fact basis whatsoever.... u should be embarassed..

  Ihmotepp

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7/26/10 11:31:04 AM#36
Originally posted by Hyanmen

It's just so comical how excited your are about this game as a pro-grouper, Ihmotepp. 

Too bad!

 

We won't know until release, but if it's as good as KOTOR, I would actually play some of it solo. KOTOR after all was a single player game, and I played through it twice.

WoW, LOTRO? I wouldn't  play those for 5 mintues solo. I would fall off of my chair asleep.

  Loktofeit

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7/26/10 11:32:10 AM#37

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  User Deleted
7/26/10 11:35:45 AM#38
Originally posted by knyghttearer

i would like to know where u read that ToR is going to have microtransactions.. i did not see that yet. i did read that WoW is seriously considering going F2P, with the "store" model. they were discussing that in an interview when the were asked about the upcoming competition of LoTR going F2P and the upcoming releases of dcuo,  final fantasy, GW2, and of course ToR. i sincerly hope the F2P doesnt become the norm, but unfortunately i think u r right in fearing that it is...

When DDO went F2P I figured, and still do, that it was a desperate measure to save the game. But with LOTRO and the talk of more games doing so it now falls to the players to either support these games or not. Sadly most will pay what devs are asking for the quality that they offer and it will become the norm. Its not just MMO's either. Look at the DLC that was released for Dragon Age so soon after the game released. Devs are now more interested in creating cash shop content than game content.

  J0K3R_3D

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7/26/10 11:46:46 AM#39

TOR will be the greatest single player MMO ever. So why pay a sub? May as well be F2P, otherwise its a private server for me. Thats if I dont "beat it" in the first month.

  Ihmotepp

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7/26/10 1:04:32 PM#40
Originally posted by J0K3R_3D

TOR will be the greatest single player MMO ever. So why pay a sub? May as well be F2P, otherwise its a private server for me. Thats if I dont "beat it" in the first month.

 

I think all games are headed to some sort of sub model, even single player. That's why developers are working so hard on the cloud technology.

You can't pirate the cloud, you can't give your old game from teh cloud to your buddy to play.

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