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  MMOExposed

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OP  6/24/10 3:03:43 AM#1

Do people really hate Paladin Classes because WoW has Paladins?

 

I am finding this interesting. The hatred that the MMORPG community has towards Paladins, all because WoW has a class called Paladins.

What bother me most about this, is that most of the people here also claim to be MMORPG Old School vets,

Yet you resent idea concepts WoW has, but that reason alone (Because WoW has it).

 

Correct Me if I am wrong, But doesnt Everquest, a game much older then WoW, also have Paladins?

What about Dungeons and Dragons? Does that have Paladins?

What spike my interest on this subject, was a thread I read here http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/paladin-knight-speculation-p198687.html#post198687

by raspberry jam

What makes a Warrior and Assassin not a cliche, but the Paladin a cliche?

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Do People truely recent ideas that WoW has? Even if they were taken from older games before it?

How about you, MMO Vets? Do you also perform in this action of bashing ideas and concepts, for the sole reason that WoW Has it?

If So, how can you expect newer MMORPG to come out, with similar concepts to your older MMO games, if WoW decides to take another old concept.

If you dont believe such a thing can happen, just take a look at many of the newer MMORPG games.

Let me post an example.

Back before WoW's first expansion, TBC, People would complain about the long travel times in WoW.

So from this outcome, many WoW haters, began to encourage Developers of new MMORPGs, not to go down this path. And Hence the Tier Load Screen Zones were born.
Warhammer, Guild Wars, AoC.
And more will come in time, because the Old School vets decided to ally with WoW haters just to bash WoW, but failed to realize these same WoW haters were bashing the very concept that you enjoyed from your pass MMORPG.

So now you can kill Seamless Persistent Worlds goodbye.

_--------------------------

many people like this, have doomed the MMORPG genre.
You choose the pride of being a WoW Hater
over the pride of being the community to encourage developers to making Good Games.

Well GG people. 

  User Deleted
6/24/10 3:07:56 AM#2

I dislike Paladins because they were the douche-bag class in EQ1.

  VirusDancer

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6/24/10 3:17:24 AM#3

Did not like them in EQ either.

DDO is just...just...so not D&D.

As for WoW, it is not just because of Paladins - it is Blood Elf Paladins.

The idea of the "Holy Knight" generally goes over well with many folks, since so many various religious orders aside from Chrisianity have had them - you will find them in all sorts of "genres" of games, books, etc.

So in the end, it is pretty much just a case that Blood Elf Paladins are that annoying...

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  Teiman

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6/24/10 3:21:55 AM#4

I don't hate paladins.  I even have roled some.  Paladins can make for a good offtank, I think.  Is a bit of hibrid class. we have to admit. 

I don't know how play in a game like WoW, because is a very simplitic MMORPG,   wow is like a tutorial to enter people to the mmorpg world, but on most games a paladin is a mele class with some anti-evil or self-healing powers. 

  Besttheiswow

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6/24/10 3:27:27 AM#5

What you saying?? I love paladins..i allways roll paladin in mmorpgs, but yeat i think in wow only humans / allies should have paladins...thats when Blizzard started fuck!ng up wow...there are some things that should never change.

  Sovrath

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6/24/10 3:29:20 AM#6

I don't let one game affect how I think of similar elements in another.

I also don't let people's unanimous choice of a class affect how I think of a class.

Essentially the only opinon that matters is my own regardless of how that element or class is depicted or treated by others and I let that element or class speak for itself.

Otherwise I'm letting other people dictate what I should think and feel.

and that would be just plain nutty.

  MMOExposed

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OP  6/24/10 3:29:38 AM#7
Originally posted by VirusDancer

Did not like them in EQ either.

DDO is just...just...so not D&D.

As for WoW, it is not just because of Paladins - it is Blood Elf Paladins.

The idea of the "Holy Knight" generally goes over well with many folks, since so many various religious orders aside from Chrisianity have had them - you will find them in all sorts of "genres" of games, books, etc.

So in the end, it is pretty much just a case that Blood Elf Paladins are that annoying...

But religon can be whatever you make it in your IP.

 

And what does Blood Elf Paladins have to do with another game's IP?

 

So you recent Paladins concept, because of a race in WoW?

 

What other Ideas and concepts do you hate because WoW has it?

 

Let me guess,,,,, Seamless world?

  VirusDancer

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Heroes are about character - not gear.

6/24/10 3:33:06 AM#8
Originally posted by MMOExposed
 

But religon can be whatever you make it in your IP.

And what does Blood Elf Paladins have to do with another game's IP?

So you recent Paladins concept, because of a race in WoW?

What other Ideas and concepts do you hate because WoW has it?

Let me guess,,,,, Seamless world?

Nah, have always enjoyed seamless worlds - long before WoW had them.

But yeah, Blood Elf Paladins really are that annoying - that I would have a difficult time not visualizing them, even though I have stated that the concept started long before WoW and it is generally pretty cool that the concept of a "Holy Knight" transends so many religions...

But... I mean... c'mon... Blood Elf Paladins.  They really are just that freaking annoying.

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  Latella

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6/24/10 3:34:38 AM#9

Yes.

After about 2 years of being ninjalooted off my warrior gear back in vanilla WoW by "dps" paladins, and many other  blizzard screw ups featuring the wanna be hero teen´s favorite class, i can´t but get a bad  vibe everytime i see a  holy knight, no matter the game i am playing.

That does not mean i refuse to talk to / play with paladins, so  i guess i do not HATE them, but i can´t deny i do feel unconfortable when i have one in my party, at least until i know him better.

Rawr.

  MMOExposed

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OP  6/24/10 3:38:25 AM#10
Originally posted by Latella

Yes.

After about 2 years of being ninjalooted off my warrior gear back in vanilla WoW by "dps" paladins, and many other  blizzard screw ups featuring the wanna be hero teen´s favorite class, i can´t but get a bad  vibe everytime i see a  holy knight, no matter the game i am playing.

That does not mean i refuse to talk to / play with paladins, so  i guess i do not HATE them, but i can´t deny i do feel unconfortable when i have one in my party, at least until i know him better.

What other features you hate because WoW has it?

 

 

Seamless world perhaps? Large Scale PvE?

 

come on,, come on out with it, so new MMO developers can make games that cater to the WoW haters, basically destroying all concepts older MMORPGs made into a legacy,

  arcdevil

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You seem like a nice guy. I'll kill you last.

6/24/10 3:39:29 AM#11

No

 

I dont like hybrid classes, and I wholeheartly hate the implications that a holier-than-thoub knight character represents to my roleplaying...

  VirusDancer

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Heroes are about character - not gear.

6/24/10 3:43:14 AM#12
Originally posted by MMOExposed
 

What other features you hate because WoW has it?

Seamless world perhaps? Large Scale PvE?

come on,, come on out with it, so new MMO developers can make games that cater to the WoW haters, basically destroying all concepts older MMORPGs made into a legacy,

What other features of life do you hate because some people hate Paladin classes because of WoW?

Pretty girls perhaps?  Sporty looking cars?

Come on, come on out with it, so people that have their own opinions know better than to reply to your troll posts, basically wasting the couple of minutes of their lives in contributing to your legacy...

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  Ebonheart

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6/24/10 3:44:00 AM#13

I hate Paladins because no one ever acknowledges the fact that DAoC had Paladins.

  ZombieKen

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6/24/10 3:44:11 AM#14

I love the Pally class.  In my own application, I have them gimped so that if tanking, their dps blows... if dpsing they aren't armored well enough to tank properly, and if healing they have to give up both in order to have a decent mana pool and + heal stats.

 

Works out fine in my eyes.

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  MMOExposed

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OP  6/24/10 3:47:27 AM#15
Originally posted by arcdevil

No

 

I dont like hybrid classes, and I wholeheartly hate the implications that a holier-than-thoub knight character represents to my roleplaying...

WHO SAID IT HAD TO BE A HYBRID

STOP BASING SHIT OFF OF WOW

 

  Kwansei

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6/24/10 3:50:45 AM#16

No I just hate elves. Since long long ago back in the days of Basic D&D, back when folks kept on the borderlands and D4s were responsible for a majority of gamer foot injuries elves have almost always been to roleplaying as Twilight is to "literature".  Not that there aren't a few good elf Rpers out there just not 99% of em.

Now if only they would make D&D the animated series online.. Then we could all complain about Uni

  Sabrala

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6/24/10 3:51:36 AM#17

Pallys existed long before WoW

  arcdevil

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You seem like a nice guy. I'll kill you last.

6/24/10 3:53:36 AM#18
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by arcdevil

No

 

I dont like hybrid classes, and I wholeheartly hate the implications that a holier-than-thoub knight character represents to my roleplaying...

WHO SAID IT HAD TO BE A HYBRID

STOP BASING SHIT OFF OF WOW

pallies have been an hybrid class since the early days of D&D, armored guys with limited divine spells (heal buffs and such). imo someone that didnt know this is so absolutly imbecile that he should be forbidden breathing...or at least banned from online gaming forum discussions, because obviously he has the same gaming knowledge of a jelly and any opinion he could voice will be wrong by default ...

 

btw your obsession with WoW is staggering....

 

 

 

  MMOExposed

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OP  6/24/10 3:59:31 AM#19
Originally posted by arcdevil
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by arcdevil

No

 

I dont like hybrid classes, and I wholeheartly hate the implications that a holier-than-thoub knight character represents to my roleplaying...

WHO SAID IT HAD TO BE A HYBRID

STOP BASING SHIT OFF OF WOW

pallies have been an hybrid class since the early days of D&D. imo someone that didnt know this is so absolutly imbecile that he should be forbidden breathing...

 

btw your obssesion with WoW is staggering....

 

 

  TrunksZ

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6/24/10 4:01:26 AM#20

Kudos to the OP !

I also think that this "WoW Haters" are killing the genre too, by saying that everything that is in WoW sucks yet WoW have everything that is in any other MMO, so wtf do you want ? another genre ?

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