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  MikeB

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OP  6/17/10 11:14:59 AM#1

Continuing the tumultuous series of events that have plagued Mythic since the launch of Warhammer Online in 2008, it appears that EA Mythic has been hit with a new round of layoffs this morning. Josh Drescher, a key player in the development of WAR and well known to fans, is no longer employed with EA Mythic as of 11AM this morning according to a tweet posted on his personal Twitter account.

 

The news left many of his followers on Twitter wondering if he had been fired, but a more recent post confirms that this was indeed another round of layoffs:

FYI: I can't get into details (and, in fact, don't HAVE many more details), but it was a layoff. I wasn't fired and I still love Mythic.

We'll have more information as this story develops. Josh previously served as a senior designer at Mythic.

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  nyxium

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Tumbling down the rabbit hole?

6/17/10 11:16:49 AM#2

Jesus christ. WAR dying, dying, gone.

  parrotpholk

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6/17/10 11:23:53 AM#3

Good company is slowly dying before our eyes. WAR was a clusterfuck but I blame EA for rushing it out the door more than Mythic. Tis a shame they accepted the buyout from EA...shortsighted.

  User Deleted
6/17/10 11:26:36 AM#4

Im 100% certain that all the former Mythic workers wished they never got in bed with EA.

  Liddokun

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6/17/10 11:26:42 AM#5

I feel for the guy. To be layed off during financial crisis is bad.

  Sovrath

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6/17/10 11:30:25 AM#6

I see this so many times (and in my own personal experience as wel).

Large company buys smaller company, initial round of layoffs to get rid of redundant people and eventually there are more layoffs if the main company needs to save money.

  maideth

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6/17/10 11:33:11 AM#7

what's the difference between lay off and fired? 

  Jadetooth

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6/17/10 11:41:28 AM#8
Originally posted by maideth


what's the difference between lay off and fired? 

 

When he gets laid off the position he filled wont be filled again. There's simply no need for one like him on the team anymore. Where as had he been fired they would be looking to refill that position again.

 

Afaik >_>

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  Lork

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Only the dead have seen the end of war- Plato

6/17/10 11:46:02 AM#9
Originally posted by skinnys
Originally posted by maideth


what's the difference between lay off and fired? 

 

When he gets laid off the position he filled wont be filled again. There's simply no need for one like him on the team anymore. Where as had he been fired they would be looking to refill that position again.

 

Afaik >_>

 

When you are laid-off, the company is looking to reduce staff in order to stay in the green, but the position may be filled in the future if the company's bottom line is met. When you are fired, you are typically being replaced because you are at fault for some reason.

  Sovrath

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6/17/10 11:46:06 AM#10

Also, if one is laid off one can (in this country) receive unemployment benefits and there might also be a severance package.

If you are fired "not so much".

  SteamRanger

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I don''t have to know how to make a better game, I only need to know where the "CANCEL" button is!

6/17/10 11:47:10 AM#11

It's time to face facts. EA isn't pumping any more money into Mythic and any activity with WAR is nothing more than shuffling deck chairs as the ship sinks into the briney. Jacobs and his crew talked a line of crap to both EA and their customer base and  couldn't meet deadlines. Releasing WAR in the state it was in killed the game before it even got off the ground. They should have spent less time jetting all over the world promoting and actually working on releasing a finished product. Warhammer could have been great, but what it needed was a different development team.

I have a feeling that Vigil is going to show these guys how it's done.

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  Amphysvena

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6/17/10 11:49:32 AM#12
Originally posted by parrotpholk

Good company is slowly dying before our eyes. WAR was a clusterfuck but I blame EA for rushing it out the door more than Mythic. Tis a shame they accepted the buyout from EA...shortsighted.

This.

  Mandalore

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6/17/10 12:03:25 PM#13

He should go to Trion Wolrlds an work on Rift ^^

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  arcdevil

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You seem like a nice guy. I'll kill you last.

6/17/10 12:09:18 PM#14
Originally posted by parrotpholk

Good company is slowly dying before our eyes. WAR was a clusterfuck but I blame EA for rushing it out the door more than Mythic. Tis a shame they accepted the buyout from EA...shortsighted.

in what paralel universe of rainbows and lollipops do you live?

EA allowed Mythic to delay WAR twice, and we could presume each time they had to inject more money than budgeted into the project.

 

there comes a time when investors want to see a return, and no one but Mythic can be blamed for failing to meet deadlines and not adjusting to budget.

No many companies in the real world would be given such out-of-jail cards, and STILL they failed at epic levels with what amounted to be a horrible, horrible game in all aspects.

 

how can you blame EA? Mythic brought this shitstorm onto themselves alone...

  Noobkilar

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6/17/10 12:13:41 PM#15

 You can notice the slow and painful demise of WAR, Some of Mystic was working with bioware last i heard for SW:TOR. Ironic enough you hear " in the face " and other commonly used ref. in the new bioware tweets/news. Then you got "pvp lakes" shows they might try to do what WAR did wrong.........Give content to a game ontop of a good pvp expenence.

 I'd imagine they are just trying to keep it in the green for a final end of the year shut down or sell off to sony online. AS once Swtor hits and Rift WAR will be down to 5k subs. My sub ended today, not even gonna bother to renew as I lost interest now i see this thread and it's sad.

 

 Atleast he gets unemployment!

  User Deleted
6/17/10 12:17:09 PM#16

 its so sad so see such a great company just five bomb , YOU SHOULD HAVE WORKED ON DAOC. instead they took the easy way out and it has had its consequense.

  Kyleran

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6/17/10 12:18:46 PM#17

This game is on life support, EA is tossing all its eggs into one basket (SWTOR) everything else will be lucky to stay running.

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  warmaster670

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6/17/10 12:19:15 PM#18
Originally posted by arcdevil
Originally posted by parrotpholk

Good company is slowly dying before our eyes. WAR was a clusterfuck but I blame EA for rushing it out the door more than Mythic. Tis a shame they accepted the buyout from EA...shortsighted.

in what paralel universe of rainbows and lollipops do you live?

EA allowed Mythic to delay WAR twice, and we could presume each time they had to inject more money than budgeted into the project.

 

there comes a time when investors want to see a return, and no one but Mythic can be blamed for failing to meet deadlines and not adjusting to budget.

No many companies in the real world would be given such out-of-jail cards, and STILL they failed at epic levels with what amounted to be a horrible, horrible game in all aspects.

 

how can you blame EA? Mythic brought this shitstorm onto themselves alone...

This, people love to scapegoat EA but they have to face the facts, mythic made this game what it is.

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  Silverel

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6/17/10 12:29:07 PM#19

Alas, another piece of negative news to pile on the rest of the negative news, further obscuring how GOOD THE GAME ACTUALLY IS.

 

Seriously...

  User Deleted
6/17/10 12:32:00 PM#20

You sleep in the bed you made...  WAR could have been awesome, they botched it, and now they are paying the price for it.  Hopefully other companies will learn from EA/Mythic's mistakes.

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