Be gentle, it's her first review.

http://www.angryguildleader.com/age-conan-review/

Deleted to add same point to another post.

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

Originally posted by nihce

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

 And full of holes as usual. You just cant trust some people.

Warhammer online score by MMORPG is 7.5

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/239/Warhammer-Online-Age-of-Reckoning.html

Back on topic

Nice and intelligent review of AoC. It will be getting better reviews now with the expansion -  for sure.

Looking forward to seeing sales figures. They can reach 1.5 mill former players with just one e-mail. Guess a lot of those will try it out.

Originally posted by finaticd

One would think an AoC fan would rate the game 10/10 just for hype reasons.  However, the math was off anyway so here:

After averaging the graphics I got 6.5, then 6 for sound, I'm going to throw out the 9 of 10 for Fun because that is where this AoC fan is trying to hype the game "Leveling is fun. PvP is fun. The raiding is a blast." since all those things are less fleshed out in AoC than other titles WoW for instance would get 30/10 and that would not make sense.  Community 6 of 10,  Roleplaying 9/10 "While I’m not a role player" and then she goes on to mention out of game stuff when there is very little RP in game. Lag 7/10. Content 7/10 but she rated "skill in PvP 10/10 and every player would say skill is way down after 1.05 so I am not sure if this reviewer plays AoC.

 

So her scores not mine, but I'm not convinced the reviewer played much Age of Conan do to logic reasons.

(6.5, 6, 6,9,7,7)/6 = 6.91 out of 10  And I definatly agree with that review score, see my signature.

AGL is pretty silly he is just trying to hype his own image by playing this game that not many play http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=215776.

It's clearly evident by your post that you know nothing about game reviews, and probably should do some research on how they are weighted. But since you're on a roll, care to give out math on how we weight reviews, since it's not public?

Originally posted by nihce

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

You are correct. Each item does not hold the same weight on a score.

Deleted because later post shows point better.

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

Get back on topic please.

I thought it was a good review.  I might even try AoC again.

Edited to stay on topic! :)

Anyway, our point has just been proven. People's posts are being erased here. We don't do that. Though I do appreciate their attempt to keep it on topic. Thanks for reading, regardless.

Originally posted by chaosngn

it's her first review.

that is pretty obvious.

I reviewed the review and give it a gentle 4 out of 10.

Oh no, I erased that myself after I saw the post from the admin.  I just didn't want a warning.

I don't question your idealism for non-biased reviews.  My hope is that you can remain untouched by the evils of advertising and money that will surely happen if you do well.  Good luck to you though, the site looks great and I will be visiting it.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by chaosngn

it's her first review.

that is pretty obvious.

I reviewed the review and give it a gentle 4 out of 10.

Lol.. Now that's funny :)

Originally posted by ColdSun

Oh no, I erased that myself after I saw the post from the admin.  I just didn't want a warning.

I don't question your idealism for non-biased reviews.  My hope is that you can remain untouched by the evils of advertising and money that will surely happen if you do well.  Good luck to you though, the site looks great and I will be visiting it.

Yes, but you didn't erase mine and the other guys ;)

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

What he fails to mention though, is Age of Conan is a "themepark" mmo as well. So how do you bash "themepark" mmos while praising a "themepark" mmo?

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

What he fails to mention though, is Age of Conan is a "themepark" mmo as well. So how do you bash "themepark" mmos while praising a "themepark" mmo?

 That is true, although I'm not sure what it has to do with my post.  I'm not defending either game as there is no clear innovation in AoC, just another game to hold a player over until something truly better comes out.  I think a lot of people feel that way.  As you know, a lot of people quit WoW and then go back, quit, go back.  Its just a cycle.  There isn't really that much out there that offers a superior experience.  There are some die hards that play some of the other games (LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard), but even they want something new.

Computers are about innovation.  Unfortunately, the whole game industry (and the movie industry for that matter) has stopped innovating and instead have concentrated purely on technology, thinking all of us are stupid enough to buy the same thing over and over because it has a prettier face on it.  The movie industry can't even promote original ideas anymore, instead they make sequels and remakes.  Out of the millions of good fiction, scifi, fantasy, and horror books we are stuck with Saw 15 and Transformers 6.  :(

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

 I saw nothing in the OP review about MMORPG. The OP review seems pretty logical and thought out. What was the issue you had with the review?