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MMORPG.com's Adam Tingle sets out on his second week of exploration in EVE Online as he writes about this adventures, good and bad, coming into the game for the first time.
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4/21/10 10:27:20 AM#2
At least three things you still need to learn: 1) People leave cans of ore around to try and bait "ore thieves" who are usually not ore thieves at all, but rather, people trying to get miners to fire on them so they can kill the miner. 2) DON'T PAY TO REPAIR YOUR SHIP AT A STATION. This is insanely costly. Buy a small armor repairer and a small hull repairer, leave them in a station. Dock, fit them, undock, and repair using them. Sure its slower, but it saves you OODLES of cash. 3) As a 3 week newbie who focused on gunnery, your tanking skills are non-existant/suck. Don't try to tank beyond shields. Get yourself a shield booster, and fight until your shields are nearing being depleted and warp out. This saves you from a) paying oodles to repair at stations and b) waiting a long time to repair amor and hull. Dock and undock and your shields are fully repaired automatically. Many people will suggest you use short range weapons early on. I heartily DISAGREE. The only effective tanking technique newbies have is speed/range tanking. SNIPE from 20km and you'll never get hit. "Keep at Range" is your friend. All you need to be a sniper in Eve as a newbie is the right ammo, the right long range guns, an afterburner, and a shield booster (in case of "oops!"). And its easy to know when to leave: When your shields are below half. |
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cosy
Newshound
Joined: 9/15/04
EvE Rules #491 you should never, ever attack Russians on winter months |
4/21/10 10:42:57 AM#3
hi, on the next episode can you post some images whit your ship and stuff |
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4/21/10 10:59:55 AM#4
Awesome story and a good read. I'd give advice, but I don't think you'd see this anyway. :P |
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4/21/10 11:20:54 AM#5
Yeah have to say if your gonna can flip someone, be sure there is no one nearby and second the moment you do steal the ore, either get out of the system or dock until the timer runs out. |
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4/21/10 11:32:29 AM#6
Not sure what ship you were in (there is no Ravager Class), But I can tell you that you had it fit wrong. Lasers and Shield boosters never mix. Make sure you pay attention to the bonuses and the slot layout on the ship the ship your fitting. Laser boats only have about 4 mid slots and very low base shield hitpoints making shield boosting on them worthless. If your on a shield tanking ship more and likely it won't have the bonuses or the raw capacitor to handle the draw of the lasers sucki9ng your cap dry way too quickly. |
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4/21/10 11:47:44 AM#7
Lol "I sat in that station a broken man"
That made my day.
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4/21/10 11:56:02 AM#8
A couple of misrepresentations are present in your otherwise decent article: 1. There is no ravager class ship/vessel. 2. No ship (especially any ship a new player can own and operate) has a dozen or more weapons (lasers on it) not even the huge captical ships. The most any ship can operate is 8.
Now having said that, the ship models present in EVE Online show their guns "Doubled", so as to cover any arc while in combat. However this does not mean you need to purchase double the guns or anything like that, it's just a game mechanic to ensure you can shoot in any direction and have it not look silly. Most figate class ships (usuable by new players) have anywhere from 2 to 4 weapon systems usable on them. There is one ship if you train for it early (that is in reach of a new player) that has more (the max of 8) and that is the destroyer class ship. However most very new players even using that ship cannot fit more then 5-6 guns on it before their skills make it impossible to mount more. So perhaps this is the ship "class" you are using and by apprearances it looks like you have a dozen or so weapons. If you are buying a dozen or so weapons you're wasting your iskies, since you can't mount them all. |
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4/21/10 11:58:10 AM#9
LOL! I'll give this guy credit he makes running a newb epic mission arc sound interesting lol. Grats on the theft and glorious death. Hopefully this guy roams low sec before hes done lol. |
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4/21/10 12:01:53 PM#10
Great read. The npc corp they toss you into can be as helpful (more so imo) as the rookie channel . |
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4/21/10 12:21:22 PM#11
*facepalm*
Seriously any normal person, in ANY game would at some point realise they were doing something very wrong if they had to run away, repair and come back that many times. At least you'd think about putting on more armor! Not more weapons.
And turning to the rookie channel for help, when your already in a corp full of other people in the same situation?..hmmmm...
I come to the conclusion that people who decide to try eve that are in any way like this person (who I still maintain is fictional) are just plain stupid.
And whats this?.. someone kill you at a station?.. it seems you've confused an NPC for a real player.. *even more facepalming*
If this guy does join a corp, he is just going to be abused. I think its time to put the game down, its clearly not for him. |
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SUMB44
Novice Member
Joined: 12/27/05
Those who would give up a little Liberty to gain a little security will gain neither and lose both. |
4/21/10 12:26:37 PM#12
I can't believe he wasn't podded in week three. That would have been another lesson entirely. |
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4/21/10 12:33:07 PM#13
Originally posted by sadeyx heh that npc at the end of the sisters of eve epic arc is pretty hard for low skilled players. Obviously the guy was setting his ship up wrong (Shields on amarr?) He's trying to do it on his own, honestly when i first started i remember warping in and out on world collide lol. |
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Originally posted by sadeyx FYI, this is the kind of response that keeps many new players out of EVE Online entirely. It's probably not best to berate the one person who's willing to try the game out cold and write about his successes and failures publically. Your assertion that if you haven't figured it all out and done everything "right" straight away, the game isn't for you is part of the disconnect between theme park and sandbox players. just saying. Cheers, |
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4/21/10 12:37:54 PM#15
Ah, the joys of been a newbie. I remember those days well! |
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4/21/10 12:38:22 PM#16
Originally posted by Stradden Stradden you and I both know Eve players don't think like that. If you aren't willing to join a corp pre eve client install, willing to read telephone directory sized game guides and know exactly what your goals are for the next four years within thirty seconds pre-tutorial attempt you need to go play wow lol.
With that said I kinda wish the guy atleast asked how to properly tank his amarr cruiser lol but thats just me being picky. |
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Kyleran
Bitter Vet™
Joined: 9/13/06
Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV |
4/21/10 12:44:47 PM#17
I have to admire his courage. From reading his 3 articles it appears he's playing EVE w/o bothering to read even so much as a new player guide and literally just "playing" it from start. I woudn't recommend anyone do this, your experience can be so much better if you prepare in advance and research/read as you go along. And joining a corp isn't actually optional if you want to get some good answers to your queations early on. "What gamers want ... is new game play patterns different from what they've experienced before" - Axehilt |
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4/21/10 12:48:29 PM#18
Originally posted by Nicoli Well, there is the Nightmare to prove that rule isn't absolute. And plenty of people shield tank their harbingers and Zealots for PvP. Give me liberty or give me lasers |
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4/21/10 12:56:20 PM#19
Originally posted by Malcanis heh toss a Large shield extender and Invul in mids and DCUII in low and you could make any ship BC sized and under a gank boat with a decent buffer. I fly Gallente and everyone these days is shield tanking. I fear CCP may nerf passive shield tanking soon. your almost a moron if you stiick to ship bonuses on alot of ships. I dont think CCP intended most of those ships to be setup like that. I mean is it me or is everyone using projectiles on gallente boats? lol Shield tanking and using projectiles on hsips meant as armor hybrid platforms... CCP nerf inc. or a buff to armor and hybrids maybe? Anyway... back on topic. OP good write up. |
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4/21/10 12:56:41 PM#20
The beginning of this installment reads as a direct rebuttal to all the advice offered in the discussion on the last two articles as much as to any comments in Rookie chat. To that I would say, regardless of the tone that may be inferred, people are actually offering decent advice and trying to help. Why ignore it? The author wants to experience the game as a true new player and he would get all the same advice that he is being given here. Now, if he is adamant in ignoring the advice then, like so many others, there is a good chance he is not going to get the most he could out of this game. I suppose the question for the author is; Do you want to be another new player who gets bored and quits or do you want to really get into the game and learn why others enjoy it so much? If the latter, then I would say start listening to the advice being offered. The people offering it have been there before and have the benefit of hindsight. There may be some differing or conflicting advice offered, but there are enough voices to come to a reasonable consensus and make an educated choice on your next course of action. I suppose it strikes me as a bit humorous because there are a number of boiler plate responses that are given out as advice to just about every new player that hits the NPC corp and those who listen already have an advantage when it comes to getting the most enjoyment from their time in the game.
edit: Also, I agree with cosy; could the OP post screenshots of his adventures in the article rather then stock images. It could only add to write ups which, despite any criticism, I have enjoyed reading. -mklinic "There's a point I think we're missing. |
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