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  Ilvaldyr

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4/18/10 1:54:43 AM#61
Originally posted by Hyanmen


Anyone who doesn't answer FFXI hasn't played it long enough (if at all) =/.

It's a no-brainer, honestly.

Is it any better than FF13? .. I just got through playing it and b'jeezus, it's convoluted.

I vote for LOTRO. It's Lord of the freakin' RINGS man.

Some of the WoW quests that link in with established lore are also pretty good.


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  gotha

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4/18/10 1:59:14 AM#62

I would prob say asherons call.

  grafh

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4/18/10 2:21:32 AM#63
Originally posted by Hyanmen


Anyone who doesn't answer FFXI hasn't played it long enough (if at all) =/.

It's a no-brainer, honestly.

I agree with this guy. The story just sucks you in. The missions leave you feeling that you actually matter in the game.

  Hyanmen

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4/18/10 2:31:11 AM#64
Originally posted by Ilvaldyr

Is it any better than FF13? .. I just got through playing it and b'jeezus, it's convoluted.

I vote for LOTRO. It's Lord of the freakin' RINGS man.

Some of the WoW quests that link in with established lore are also pretty good.

It's beyond convoluted, actually... you have to really think what's happening or you wont have any idea. Really on the next level from XIII. Although it's pretty basic at core, if you look deeper, the plot twists are actually quite surprising.

People still make theories to this day about some things in the earlier story.. and surprisingly some of those theories actually held truth to them, as we've seen in the later story arcs.

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  Loke666

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4/18/10 2:42:32 AM#65

Well, there are many parts of a MMOs story. First it is the history of the world, then how well the quests are written. How well written are the npcs?

I think Guildwars have the best written background (it is at least written by a real fantasy actor) and npcs are noteworthy but while the missions are well written the general quest are often the same crap as other games have.

LOTRO and AoCs backgrounds are also very well written but the NPCs are often rather 2 dimensional and the quest are often rather bad.

They still are the top 3, I guess I would put FF IX on 4th place, Games like Wow, EQ 1 & 2, Aion and many more have a rather pathetic background that sometimes feels like it have been written by a bunch of 14 year old D&D players.

There is a lot room for improvement here, I like a good story myself but most of the time I just start to read and then skip the rest. But the good news is that other companies are actually focusing on the story now, not only Bioware but Copernicus (Salvatore), Guildwars 2 (Jeff Grubb again) are just 3 of the upcoming game that focuses more on the story.

A good story is not an excuse for bad gameplay or the other way around. It is just a part of what makes a game fun. We do deserve a better story than Zelda or similar games and it shouldn't be possible to make a RPG game without a story to tell.

Of course should players also create stories together but a good background helps to put everyone in the mood and we are talking about games that cost many millions to make here, they should afford at least a second rate author instead of some student with a lot of spare time.

I am really getting tired of killing 20 rats, I do not need an actual quest for that.

  Hyanmen

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4/18/10 2:52:47 AM#66
Originally posted by Loke666


Well, there are many parts of a MMOs story. First it is the history of the world, then how well the quests are written. How well written are the npcs?

I think the history of the world is "lore" more than story. 

Story is what I consider something that happens within the game, to the player (or other characters), in present time. 

The rest is lore and background, which while being some kind of "story", aren't really what I'd consider real story in this context.

How much of FFXI's history do you know of, by the way? I hope you're not just speculating here.

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  User Deleted
4/18/10 3:01:27 AM#67
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 


Originally posted by pencilrick
The best MMO with a story, is the one without a story.  MMO's should be worlds, not stage plays.


 

That sounds like an excellent MMO.

It also sounds like a horrible MMO...wait for it...wait for it...here it comes...RPG.

Lore and Events = MMO

Storyline = Single-player RPG

MMO's need Lore and Events, but do NOT need artificial storylines that grow old the first time through.  The truly great MMO's did not do this.  The recent spate of MMO players know no different, and this is sad.

  Hyanmen

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4/18/10 3:07:47 AM#68
Originally posted by pencilrick

Lore and Events = MMO

Storyline = Single-player RPG

MMO's need Lore and Events, but do NOT need artificial storylines that grow old the first time through.  The truly great MMO's did not do this.  The recent spate of MMO players know no different, and this is sad.

That's just crap you made up. 

Neither is exclusive to one genre, and shouldn't be. They compliment each other.

FF:ARR FATE grinding: People not having fun by doing something not actually intended to get to a point that doesn't really matter as fast as possible. Just so they can do the same thing over and over again to gain a piece of virtual loot.

  luciusETRUR

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4/18/10 3:11:16 AM#69
Originally posted by drbaltazar


onne poster made me thing about your question!

are you asking the once game that flash it at you or the game that as the best lore.

best lore =wow

best lore flashed at you =guild wars

To people saying WoW has the best lore. I must say no. I have played Warcraft games since 1994 with the release of Orcs & Humans. The lore in that game sucked, but WC2 was amazing. WC3 expanded onto this, retconned very few things and was a superb lore and story. Even vanilla WoW, which retconned a few more things and was still a pretty good story.

Then came alien goofball shamans and the Naaru. Then came Blood Elves stealing the light and later the biggest retcon of them all, the Lich King. Warcraft used to have great story. It doesn't, not anymore. StarCraft and Diablo are still there, but they aren't MMOs.

I will agree with Guild Wars being the best. I absolutely love their lore.

  Vagrant_Zero

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4/18/10 4:36:05 PM#70


Originally posted by Hyanmen


Originally posted by pencilrick
Lore and Events = MMO
Storyline = Single-player RPG
MMO's need Lore and Events, but do NOT need artificial storylines that grow old the first time through.  The truly great MMO's did not do this.  The recent spate of MMO players know no different, and this is sad.


That's just crap you made up. 
Neither is exclusive to one genre, and shouldn't be. They compliment each other.

Exactly. What's the point of "Lore and Events" if there's no "Storyline" to put it all into context?

I just don't get this "less is more" mentality the sandboxers seem to have.

EVE Online would be BETTER for a strong storyline based PvE experience, not worse. And that same strong PvE experience would in no way encroach on the PvP experience, they are not mutually exclusive.

  Buttermilch

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4/18/10 4:45:42 PM#71
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

EVE Online would be BETTER for a strong storyline based PvE experience, not worse. And that same strong PvE experience would in no way encroach on the PvP experience, they are not mutually exclusive.

Well, there is just one problem.

If you want to improve one aspect of your game, another one will shrivel. This is because development teams have limited resources.

But somehow you are right. Having better storylines for EvEs PvE would not make the game worse.

  Vagrant_Zero

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4/19/10 6:43:00 AM#72


Originally posted by Buttermilch


Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero
EVE Online would be BETTER for a strong storyline based PvE experience, not worse. And that same strong PvE experience would in no way encroach on the PvP experience, they are not mutually exclusive.


Well, there is just one problem.
If you want to improve one aspect of your game, another one will shrivel. This is because development teams have limited resources.
But somehow you are right. Having better storylines for EvEs PvE would not make the game worse.

That's definitely a fair point.

Still on the flip side where EVE is concerned it could be argued that if they made an acceptable PvE offering it would attract enough new players to justify the expenditure.

We'll really never know though, it's all speculation, unless CCP actually implements it of course.


  User Deleted
4/19/10 8:57:29 AM#73

You can count me as one of the people who will not play EVE because the story of the base universe is so totally uninteresting to me.    Every time I hear about EVE it seems to be some drama BS that I don't want.

So I...don't play.

  UnholyVashX

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4/19/10 9:08:52 AM#74

I'm going to say of course, the World of Warcraft. I play the game and the story is just amazing but in addition to that I have read 9 of the books (reading the newest one Stormrage ATM), and it truly is great.

The War of the Ancients is by far the best books I've read to date, and IMO the best in the Warcraft series. Although I will say if you don't plan on reading the Warcraft series you will miss out on a lot of great lore in WoW, and to be honest the game will lose alot. I can enjoy it more because of what I've read and when I see a character from the books and I talk to them I know why they offer a certain type of quest or what not.

Other than WoW I don't know of any others with a really good story. I mean I never got into Eve and while the LotRO story is the most known, it wasn't my cup of tea.

TL;DR - WoW has an awesome story if you pay attention to it.

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  Battlekruse

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4/19/10 9:39:03 AM#75

Guild Wars is one of the best stories ever told. The lore is deep and complex, the character stories are full of depth and genuinely interesting. Guild Wars represents tremendous value for money and its is absolutely not too late to play through it.

GW also got Gwen.

The worst is World of Warcraft. The lore and story was great with Warcraft 1+2+3, but Blizard ruined it with WoW. The story is a complete mess today. What story is there left now for Warcraft 4, there is a huge gap now.


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  User Deleted
4/19/10 9:42:40 AM#76

LOTRO is first for me followed by Guild Wars then WOW, and while WOW's story wasn't very compelling I thought it did a good job introducing players to the world so it get's mention from me here.

  User Deleted
4/19/10 9:46:37 AM#77
Originally posted by Buttermilch
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

EVE Online would be BETTER for a strong storyline based PvE experience, not worse. And that same strong PvE experience would in no way encroach on the PvP experience, they are not mutually exclusive.

Well, there is just one problem.

If you want to improve one aspect of your game, another one will shrivel. This is because development teams have limited resources.

But somehow you are right. Having better storylines for EvEs PvE would not make the game worse.

 If you want to improve one aspect of your game another one will shrivel?  Why is that?  I have a hard time understanding how a good pve or pvp game can suffer from building the other play style, yes if you universally change the game to accomodate those changes then it could affect the other system but I don't think that statement is as universal as you make it since it isn't necessary to change one part of the game to beef up another, sure maybe pvp will not get development for some time but if you are already recognized as having awesome pvp how does that change anything?

  lectrocutie

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2/01/13 8:01:52 PM#78
This last post here was almst 3 years ago. Im definitely curious as to what game everyone thins has the best story now?
  DamonVile

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2/01/13 8:08:27 PM#79

I really liked the sith warrior story in SWTOR. The game itself wasn't great after the story ended but it did at least have that. SI one wasn't too bad either.

I tend not to bother reading the story in most games when it turns out to be nothing more than just a go over there to do more quests.

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  Cherise

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2/01/13 8:16:36 PM#80
For me it would be LotRO.  It's been the only game where I've had a continued interest in reading the quests.
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