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Basically, QUIT NOW Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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2/21/10 3:43:11 PM#2
Wow, if this is true... just wow, that is sad. Not saying OP is lying, but you learn to take stuff like this with a grain of salt most times. It makes perfect sense though. ------------------------- |
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2/21/10 3:44:36 PM#3
Actually after reading about gpotato's history and the way things changed from cb to ob it makes perfect sense. |
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2/21/10 3:48:53 PM#4
So the next obvious question is, what is the development house that the original developers made and what is the name of the new game they are working on? 8P ------------------------- |
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Originally posted by Darkholme No idea. I know its mentioned in a Russian interview with them somewhere but there is no translation. Their next game is a DoTA clone anyway so I'm not really interested /= Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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2/21/10 4:00:23 PM#6
@Kord yes indeed it surely seems this way after research on the ru forums. I am also trying to do further research into the company itself but I am having some difficulty with translation. It makes absolute sense, in that the prices of the cs are completely out of whack. And with the changes coming down line with 1.6 and 1.7 it feels as if Astrum WANTS the game to fail as hard as possible as if to get some kind of write off.. though I am not sure this is even possible in Russia... wondering if there is a connection to the US. If this is event is remotely close to reality, this would set a new meaning to the word fleecing in the MMOrpg world. Imagine how disturbing this is in that there are pleanty of FtP mmo's that could very easily "fit" the same cash grab model. Build to OB, cash grab from an incomplete never to be complete game. (how would we know any different). Are we as consumers purposely being taken for a ride? Not just with Allod's but with other properties as well. At least we were blessed with the over the top obvious and laughable introduction of Gpots cash shop, to question all this to begin with. I feel very sorry that Allod's doesnt have ANY future. One of the best FtP games out there.. at least before OB. Sad really.
d "He who reigns within himself and rules his passions, desires, and fears is more than a king." "Where there is much desire to learn, there of necessity will be much argruing, much writting, many opinions; for opinions in good men is but knowledge in the making." John Milton 1608-1674 |
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2/21/10 4:03:20 PM#7
Would this explain for the absurd item mall prices? I have been enjoying the game since CBT and was really counting on it as my f2p alternative. Guess if this is so might have to end up jumping ship :-(. |
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2/21/10 4:03:30 PM#8
Tis a shame as Allods was on pace to be what I think is the best f2p on the market. |
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2/21/10 4:05:55 PM#9
Also there is this unique thing going around with ftp games coming out with "open beta" but which are actually there released product. AKA if your not char wiping and you are making (or in this case trying to make) money from said product is it not a release? |
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Originally posted by parrotpholk This is pretty much the general feeling behind all the rage against the game right now. The game itself WAS great. It did interesting things, had cool things like Gibberlings and the Astral ships, and the world setting of a post apocalyptic steampunk fanatasy world is not something we're likely to see again. ALL of it, was thrown out the window, because the companies involved apparently are so blinded by their greed they can't even keep the game functional to string people along for a few days. This game was destroyed right out of the gate, and all its potential was wasted. It's sickening. Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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2/21/10 4:10:56 PM#11
Originally posted by Doven
It's possible, but unlikely. Yes, you can make money off of MMOs, but this situation sounds more like a company seeing dollar signs on something it doesn't understand, and trying to grab as many of them as possible. For companies to continue to make entirely new games from scratch, with the mindset that they will fail shortly after release, just to try and turn a quick profit sounds like a stretch. There are much easier ways for corporations to flip investments that don't require this much risk or overhead. Not saying it doesn't happen, but usually the companies that try and do it repeatedly don't last too long. Though, given the F2P models a lot of MMOs have, sometimes it can seem like they all have this mentality. Bottom line, it's much more cost effective to make a solid game that will last for a while, then it is to try and redesign multiple games over and over as throwaway products. |
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Originally posted by aesperus
It's possible, but unlikely. Yes, you can make money off of MMOs, but this situation sounds more like a company seeing dollar signs on something it doesn't understand, and trying to grab as many of them as possible. For companies to continue to make entirely new games from scratch, with the mindset that they will fail shortly after release, just to try and turn a quick profit sounds like a stretch. There are much easier ways for corporations to flip investments that don't require this much risk or overhead. Not saying it doesn't happen, but usually the companies that try and do it repeatedly don't last too long. Though, given the F2P models a lot of MMOs have, sometimes it can seem like they all have this mentality. Bottom line, it's much more cost effective to make a solid game that will last for a while, then it is to try and redesign multiple games over and over as throwaway products. Except that requires a level of ethics, some business sense, and management that actually comes out of their office to look at things once and a while to. Instead, what you generally have is a handful of chucklefucks in suits reading a weekly/monthly/quarterly report that was printed up for them and screaming back to everyone "Meet this goal I've set or you're all fired!", being concerned only about the immediate bottom line and not the long term profitability of the game. Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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2/21/10 4:23:05 PM#13
that sucks. i was really looking forward to the game, but now with all this crap i've been hearing i don't think it's even worth the Dl. =/ hate it when a good game goes bad. |
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2/21/10 4:36:27 PM#14
I've read up on it too - seems like Spellborn all over again, it's a new company running it and from what the next patch brings and GP's costs they're prattically screwing anyone that plays it over - for heaven's sake it's making Crypic look 'fair' with theres.
RIP the 'real' Allods you would have ruled the world Bring on the WARRRRGGHH! |
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2/21/10 4:43:53 PM#15
Why did they sell the game if the feedback was so good and they knew they had a hit on their hands =/ Its not like suits can just throw money at something and take it, the other side has to accept, so you could blame the original company for selling out? |
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2/21/10 4:44:55 PM#16
Though I'm echoing what's already been said; Allods was one of the *best* Free-to-play MMORPGs of the past 5 years. The animations, the graphics, the story, races, and settings were all well done. This; Honestly, was going to be the game that held me over until Cataclysm. Now, I feel like I'm burying an old friend. Rest in peace, my friend. |
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Originally posted by StoogeMonkey They merged, likely because the other company was offering them money and promised to "stay true to their vision" *IE bullshit*. After the merge there was of course no going back, so the team basically left and formed another company when the company they merged with started to throw their weight around and take the game in a drastically different direction. Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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2/21/10 4:48:43 PM#18
Originally posted by Kordesh They merged, likely because the other company was offering them money and promised to "stay true to their vision" *IE bullshit*. After the merge there was of course no going back, so the team basically left and formed another company when the company they merged with started to throw their weight around and take the game in a drastically different direction.
Or it could be seen that after the company left they were left with the realization that they can't keep Allods afloat so they are taking the "Down with the ship" approach and getting all the valuables out before jumping ship themselves! *Dons Tin-foil hat* |
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2/21/10 4:49:25 PM#19
I have very fond memories of Nival Interactive, they made some incredible games. Let's play Fallen Earth (from launch to present) |
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Originally posted by maji Honestly, if they had stayed the ones in charge, this situation might actually be salvageable once they whipped Gpotato back in line. Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts. EAT ME MMORPG.com! |
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