Trending Games | ArcheAge | World of Warcraft | Elder Scrolls Online | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,923,557 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,316,857
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » Star Trek Online: STO - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

7 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Search
122 posts found
  Stradden

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/08/05
Posts: 6729

 
OP  2/10/10 12:14:50 PM#1

MMORPG.com columnist Scott Jennings has been playing Cryptic's Star Trek Online and today uses his article to talk about the game, pointing out the good, the bad and the ugly.

Scott Jennings

As I mentioned in an earlier column, I found my inner Trekker unable to resist Star Trek Online’s siren song. Yet it’s difficult to turn off the analytical game designer part of my brain, even when thinking up silly names for your starships, so an interesting topic for today’s column, I believe, is a look at how Star Trek Online shapes up as an MMO as opposed to an outlet for my nerd-Trekkery. I’ve been playing it for a little over a week now (achieving “Lt. Commander 6”, or level 16 out of 50 in other words), which while not enough to conclusively file a review is enough for a first look at some of what Cryptic is trying to accomplish with the game. So, unlike the earlier piece, which was more about me and what a sad, sad little Star Trek fan I am (and only slightly about raised expectations regarding beta programs), this is more a look at Star Trek Online as it stands on release.

Read STO - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  Codenak

Novice Member

Joined: 12/23/08
Posts: 418

2/10/10 12:27:54 PM#2

I agree on all points, except one, i don't regard token cash ins as "crafting" in any way shape or form.

However, i only played to last day of open Beta and decided this was not a game for me, so whether anything has improved since then i cant really comment on, but it doesn't sound like it.

F2P/P2P excellent thread.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html

  chillz420

Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 16

2/10/10 12:32:19 PM#3

"Your first ten levels aren’t as fun as the rest of the game. You’re given a single ship, the Miranda class light cruiser, which just isn’t very good – it doesn’t have the survivability of cruisers, nor the maneuverability of escorts, nor the special abilities of science vessels. By level 8, you’ll most likely have exhausted the available story line missions and will find yourself grinding deep space encounters just to get a decent ship. This is not the best first impression; experience point requirements for the 5-10 levels should probably be greatly lowered."

I agree with the miranda class as ur first ship...but u can change the appearance and mix/match somthing diff but yes the overall ship itself...maybe not the best ship choice. But then what newbie ship should have all of what you stated?  i should think none...it shouldnt b a cakewalk with this sweet uber ship at your disposal at level 1

 

The part about you exhausting the available story line by level 8?  what story line are you talking about?  because my missions under the klingon front seem to keep comming as im 16 now and i have a quest log stuffed full of things to do...yes some repeatables but mainly things i have yet to get to...heck i was actually passing up lower level quests and not even realizing it.  so i guess im a bit confused on how you burned through all the content by level 8....idk maybe i read what you said wrong :/

and as far as the xp required....did u at all go through the game in the lower levels just playing and not even realize you had leveled?  i know i did....i went through the first 10 with ease really and i started this game as newbish as they come.

if the progression is so slow and content is lacking...idk why  a few ppl that i know are already rear admirals.....idk in my eyes i think more content is needed for sure.

did ya know you can re-do missions you've completed if your with a buddy who is currently on them?  AND you get XP for completing them again?  depending on level but im 1 higher than a buddy...he helped me with a few missions last night...and got all the same xp, bo pts, etc....minus about 45pts on each.

atleast ya get something for helping out on something you already did :)

  Techleo

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 1980

Is it over yet...

2/10/10 12:34:05 PM#4

  Good article. In the end the game just seems to be missing the necessary interactivity to be a really good MMO. For instance the game takes the simplest path to tell stories. Instead of weighting the consequences of your actions your really just a puppet. Games such as Anarchy Online, UO , EvE and a few others make good use of the choice and consequences system. Take for instance the sequences we are told to disable klingons to save a diplomat. To my knowledge the Federation Crews often stunned there enemies before they killed them. They hailed ships to give them a chance to explain. This entire segment of ST Lore is missing and it seems such a shame to waste a mechanic such as this. 

  In anycase I'll keep playing the game for now. It has its good moments and it definitely has its share of bad ones. I actually am finding it extremely fun to write a captains log with the supplemental notes system. Sadly I tell a better story then the game does hehe.

  TuxedoSLY

Ultima Online Correspondent

Joined: 10/29/06
Posts: 94

Blessed be the lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.

2/10/10 12:58:53 PM#5

Nice plug for Eve at the end there, Kenny Rogers.

 

Been playing STO since beta and it is a lot of fun, but I just don't see it being a long time gaming experience. I also enjoyed Champions a ton when it came out, and then it too became kind of a chore. Cryptic has this way of slapping me right in the face to get my attention, then tell me her dads home and we'd just have to sit on the couch doing nothing for a long period of time with the hope of fun later.

 

I tells you, in MY day, this UO thing....

  artemisentr4

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/25/08
Posts: 1442

2/10/10 1:04:45 PM#6
Originally posted by Techleo

  Good article. In the end the game just seems to be missing the necessary interactivity to be a really good MMO. For instance the game takes the simplest path to tell stories. Instead of weighting the consequences of your actions your really just a puppet. Games such as Anarchy Online, UO , EvE and a few others make good use of the choice and consequences system. Take for instance the sequences we are told to disable klingons to save a diplomat. To my knowledge the Federation Crews often stunned there enemies before they killed them. They hailed ships to give them a chance to explain. This entire segment of ST Lore is missing and it seems such a shame to waste a mechanic such as this. 

  In anycase I'll keep playing the game for now. It has its good moments and it definitely has its share of bad ones. I actually am finding it extremely fun to write a captains log with the supplemental notes system. Sadly I tell a better story then the game does hehe.


 

I agree with this. Choices would go along way in making STO more of a ST game. Not everything should be about killing everyone. Diplomacy needs to be there as well as exploration.

As far as the MMO part. I agree that they dropped the ball here. I have no problem with the instances in sector space, missions, quests, PvP and spacedocs. There are too many players to open any of them up to everyone.

What I would have like to have seen is planets available to explore. Not just a small rectangle instance, but a large world with an expanded size to the instance. A place to meet and greet as in most MMO's. It would have been nice to see large open sector space that could take a long time to find anything. New planets with quests for some nice items as well as harvesting areas. This entire exploration sector should also be open PvP.

There is so much they could do to change this game in a more ST direction. More than just the eye candy and sounds from the IP. They have the cash with the $20 million bonus from Atari to develope loads of content and change things around. I just hope they do it. This game could be a huge cash cow for Cryptic if they get it right. It is a good foundation they have started with. I enjoy the combat as is, it is just content and a lack of choice.

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
R.A.Salvatore

  chillz420

Novice Member

Joined: 1/04/07
Posts: 16

2/10/10 1:08:34 PM#7
Originally posted by artemisentr4
Originally posted by Techleo

  Good article. In the end the game just seems to be missing the necessary interactivity to be a really good MMO. For instance the game takes the simplest path to tell stories. Instead of weighting the consequences of your actions your really just a puppet. Games such as Anarchy Online, UO , EvE and a few others make good use of the choice and consequences system. Take for instance the sequences we are told to disable klingons to save a diplomat. To my knowledge the Federation Crews often stunned there enemies before they killed them. They hailed ships to give them a chance to explain. This entire segment of ST Lore is missing and it seems such a shame to waste a mechanic such as this. 

  In anycase I'll keep playing the game for now. It has its good moments and it definitely has its share of bad ones. I actually am finding it extremely fun to write a captains log with the supplemental notes system. Sadly I tell a better story then the game does hehe.


 

I agree with this. Choices would go along way in making STO more of a ST game. Not everything should be about killing everyone. Diplomacy needs to be there as well as exploration.

As far as the MMO part. I agree that they dropped the ball here. I have no problem with the instances in sector space, missions, quests, PvP and spacedocs. There are too many players to open any of them up to everyone.

What I would have like to have seen is planets available to explore. Not just a small rectangle instance, but a large world with an expanded size to the instance. A place to meet and greet as in most MMO's. It would have been nice to see large open sector space that could take a long time to find anything. New planets with quests for some nice items as well as harvesting areas. This entire exploration sector should also be open PvP.

There is so much they could do to change this game in a more ST direction. More than just the eye candy and sounds from the IP. They have the cash with the $20 million bonus from Atari to develope loads of content and change things around. I just hope they do it. This game could be a huge cash cow for Cryptic if they get it right. It is a good foundation they have started with. I enjoy the combat as is, it is just content and a lack of choice.

I agree with what you said as well....hit the nail on the head about darn near everything...games good....could be epic if they choose do impliment some more options as far as what you can explore/do while exploring.

  nekollx

Novice Member

Joined: 11/17/08
Posts: 573

2/10/10 1:57:06 PM#8

 Good article all together but i'm kinda disapointed how you glossed over the "costume bug" these were pre order item, people paid extra for them. And here we are, 10 days later and they still arent working and the devs havent said anything about them since the 4th.

  Ozmodan

Elite Member

Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6826

2/10/10 2:14:35 PM#9

Any game that let's players achieve max level in a week has serious issues, especially when there is not much end game content yet.

This game has far too much instancing in it, nothing wrong with instances except when overdoing it.  How hard was it to glean that it was a huge issue in Age of Conan?  Only braindead designers ignore prior problems other games have had in this genre.

Then to throw in the included item shop.  While it is not a big deal at the moment, once subscriptions expire that will be a very tempting income source.

Far as I am concerned this is another failed MMO launch.  It remains to be seen if Cyrptic will ever finish it enough to be a decent game.

 

  seansean

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/30/06
Posts: 120

2/10/10 2:21:40 PM#10

I've played it from the last day of headstart until yesterday. there's just no "there" there for me. unfinished, poorly-designed shit. I keep hearing about this 20 mil bonus. if that's why cryptic put this turkey out in it's current form, then I hope that 20 last them a long time, because damn few people will plunk down any cash for a cryptic product again. Greed, thy name is Cryptic...

  User Deleted
2/10/10 2:28:22 PM#11

Nice article and I have to agree with most of it but I'm not too sure how you ran out of non repeatable content as I played open and closed beta (which required many restarted characters) and very rarely if ever had to repeat quests and it has been the same sincew launch two characters both LTC and no repeats until I got my main close to Commander but I also have to add with this toon I now skipped a whole lot of the early quests so it's no surprise I missed out on a bunch of skill points I could have gotten.

If people are looking for a game to change the face of mmo's this is not the game but what is there right now is really fun and if nothing else I can say that Cryptic may have hit on the "cookie cutter" sci fi mmo.

  JeroKane

Elite Member

Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5352

2/10/10 2:33:54 PM#12
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Any game that let's players achieve max level in a week has serious issues, especially when there is not much end game content yet.

This game has far too much instancing in it, nothing wrong with instances except when overdoing it.  How hard was it to glean that it was a huge issue in Age of Conan?  Only braindead designers ignore prior problems other games have had in this genre.

Then to throw in the included item shop.  While it is not a big deal at the moment, once subscriptions expire that will be a very tempting income source.

Far as I am concerned this is another failed MMO launch.  It remains to be seen if Cyrptic will ever finish it enough to be a decent game.


 

That's a major gripe right here. If Cryptic has shown one thing. Then that's the fact that they are very poor at maintaining an MMO.

Champions Online was hugely neglected, because they shifted their main focus to STO the moment CO was launched.

Now with the very strong rumor floating around that they are already working on a third project (D&D MMO).

Who says they are not going to do the same with STO now and start shifting their focus again on their third project?

As so far, it just seems that this company's sole strategy (especially seeing their marketing strategy with lifetime subs and extra ordinary amount of effort in pleatora of ingame bonus items to maximize retail sales) is focussed on launch and launch profits only.

Pretty much like how game studios work who produce standard (non MMO) games.

And to be honest. It pretty much already shows. Just have a look at the official forums. It's gotten totally out of hand.

Since launch, the whole communication level plummited to an almost non-existent level. And players are getting more angry and more frustrated each day. Especially with all the issues going on.

  Airwren

Novice Member

Joined: 5/12/08
Posts: 654

2/10/10 2:37:33 PM#13

Thanks for your reflections and thoughts Scott.  You did a nice job of presenting some of the good aspects while not glossing over some of the bad.  I do have to ask you, if you respond to these posts, if you happen to play Darkfall.  I base that on the screenshot of your ship name which made me LOL but there is also a Rick Astley in DF.  Not so common of a character name choice so I thought that may be you. lol

  Kryogenic

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/17/04
Posts: 673

Tam Arte Quam Marte

2/10/10 2:40:16 PM#14

 hahaha You sneaky, Russian, bastard... 

He snuck in a link to EVE online at the end. I laughed pretty hard at that and am still laughing while typing up this reply.

I wish I liked EVE's gameplay. I find it too sterile, but it's definitely the best example of a persistent, player controlled world. And damn CCP for being so dedicated to that game. There dedication makes me want to jump in again and try to convince myself that I enjoy the gameplay. If the skill system wasn't real time training and the ship to ship combat wasn't so RTS-like, I'd happily play it to the exclusion of everything else.

Hell, if they added in "AMBULATION" (Said with dramatic basso and accompanied by a drum roll. Seriously, it's lame to try to spin and hype up walking like that.) as well as revamped the ship to ship combat and skills system, I'd venture to say that their population would more than double.

Arguably, it wouldn't be the same game, but it would certainly be a fun and engaging one.

  Vagelisp

Novice Member

Joined: 11/01/05
Posts: 446

2/10/10 2:42:27 PM#15

I think that games based on exploration should not be so instanced as STO is. I didn't get the impression that i was playing a massive game and i did not find it interesting exploring square areas with npc crew members.

Anyway don't think it's bad as an online game but a very bad mmorg and i see no reason to spend 15 per month for it since Mass effect 2 does much better at a lower price.

  Interitus

Novice Member

Joined: 8/28/05
Posts: 136

2/10/10 3:05:15 PM#16
Originally posted by Airwren

 I do have to ask you, if you respond to these posts, if you happen to play Darkfall.  I base that on the screenshot of your ship name which made me LOL but there is also a Rick Astley in DF.  Not so common of a character name choice so I thought that may be you. lol


 

Rick Astley is an infamous singer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

  farudim

Novice Member

Joined: 3/12/05
Posts: 50

2/10/10 3:17:43 PM#17

As it is now.

The game only goes to lvl 45, not 50.

The story missions stops at lvl 42.

 

Like it or not - just facts.

  Gylfi

Novice Member

Joined: 7/06/06
Posts: 681

2/10/10 3:26:56 PM#18

There are few fucking boring quests, the rest is randomly generated missions(which means no babysitting/hand holding)?

I wanna play!!

I miss random generated missions so much, i hate fixed quests, with their fixed destinations, fixed rats count, fixed all.

  Mopar63

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 298

2/10/10 3:50:36 PM#19
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Any game that let's players achieve max level in a week has serious issues, especially when there is not much end game content yet.

 


 

This is as much an issue with the game as the players so I am less inclinced to be bother by this from a game point of view.

I thought the review was solid and well done pointing out every aspect of the game.  This game is a good game but not a great one and it could be.  As for the success or failure of this game I have no doubt it will succeed. Trekkies are a loyal and die hard crew. The ONLY way this game fails is if Cryptic does nothing. If they make and effort and improvements as well as increase content this game will do fine and be likely 1 million subs strong if not more.

I see a lot of people thinking there should be more exploration. I understand this but you need to understand exploration would be BORING! The Star Trek show only accounted for a TINY fraction of the time the Enterprise spent in space. Exploration of the kind people seem to want towuld involve literally hours of doing nothing but looking.

The exploration missions they have now are okay and could be better but you have to be careful and rmember that while this is Star Trek it is also a game. If they make it where diplomacy and exploration play a much heavier role they risk ruining the fun to basically having you stand around while two people talk over their issues and your science officer spends hours watching scanners.

 

 

  dirtyklingon

Novice Member

Joined: 5/17/08
Posts: 160

QAPLAH!

2/10/10 3:52:08 PM#20

1-10 is slow but there is ample missions(consisting of episodes and patrols which you stated were randomly generated bu t are not) to do with out resorting to do the repeatable DSE missions more than once.i even skipped one mission that i could not complete solo.

 

overall not a bad early review, not entirely accurate but not bad.

KERPLAH!

7 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Search