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General Discussion  » Why RoM is the Biggest Rock to be Thrown In the MMORPG Pond Since WoW

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  giantsquid

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OP  2/02/10 2:49:19 PM#1

Too bold, too wild a statement? Don’t let the backlash hit you in the face from people saying it’s too outrageous of a statement for outrageousness’s sake. We always hear quite a number of daily statements like these that lead us to believe someone’s just “crying wolf”. “XXX is the new WoW Killer!”, “Best Game Ever!”, etc; All this wolf crying has made the MMORPG community jaded, but don’t forget that the possibility still exists.

Thus ends my preamble or disclaimer to try to artificially un-jade you to look at this article “objectively” and not as another boy who cried wolf. But if you’ve managed to hang on this far, I would like to tell you that I have some broad MMORPG models as well as several detailed explanations with examples to defend my titular claim.

Not only do I believe Runes of Magic is the next evolutionary jump since World of Warcraft hit the scene, I am confident that my facts and information will support this. So let’s get right to it shall we?

Broad Evolutionary Jumps

Runes of Magic(RoM) is the first MMORPG, since World of Warcraft(WoW), to do what it is doing. Namely they have created a great unique world with their own hands but developed around the best parts of some of the best games in the business. This is what WoW did. Runewaker(developers of RoM) has a good team that are MMORPG fans themselves, that saw the best parts of the best games like EQ2, LotRO, Warhammer, and WoW. They took all these great things that the current MMORPG community loves, and smooshed them together, made some tweaks, added their own great unique systems, and wrapped it all in their own world lore. They did this all to a degree very close to what Blizzard did when they created WoW.

* Runewaker also showed strength, bravery, and risk taking ala Blizzard(developers of WoW) in finally taking the best of what’s currently out there and expanding on or improving on it, then “selling” it as an RMT business model.

* Not only have they dared take hold of the reins in the same fashion as only Blizzard has done in all these years, but they are also proving their worth by not just being copy cats, but being vanguards. Runewaker is showing their tenacity and bravery in practically redefining how RMT can work well. No one has done this before them; creating an RMT MMORPG that is closer in scale and game mechanics to most larger subscriber based companies. RoM Both surpasses any size thresh holds and game play mechanics of any previous RMT based MMORPGs.

* Another huge evolutionary change is a more focused implementation of “horizontal game play”. Where the core of most MMORPGs is to direct you to leveling, RoM is going to great lengths to apply large content patches that any player will be able to access without being forced to level to experience all the game’s content without taking away current favorite systems such as raiding.

Most of these boil down into the basic category of “options”. Through Runewaker’s unique and ingenious design they have returned an immeasurable amount of options back to the players while retaining and improving on what has become favored MMORPG elements.

Thus RoM has shown evolutionary and revolutionary additions and changes to not only the RMT business model, but to well established subscriber business models as well. While many games are coming out almost daily with great systems and options, none of them have done it to the extent of RoM(since WoW came out).

The Proof is in the Pudding

At first look, RoM seems to simply take great ideas and copy them, which many would be fine with. There is actually much more than meets the eye though, and it’s these subtle small changes that make a huge difference that will have long lasting impacts on the future of MMORPGs and show Runewaker’s true genius.

RoM’s Item Mall (RMT done right)

RoM not only has one of the best Item Malls(filled with only items that will increase the rate of speed at which a player can acquire goals in-game, and nothing is sold that cannot be obtained in-game by purists), but they’ve plugged it directly into their game unlike any other RMT modeled MMORPG to date. They use a total of 4 different types of currency:

1. Diamonds
2. Rubies
3. Gold
4. Phirius Tokens

Through these various RMT and in-game currencies plus the powerful option of letting any player have the ability to earn these currencies in-game through a stable economy, RoM has transcended all previous RMT business models. Any non-paying purist can trade, buy, or sell through one-on-one player transactions, auction house transactions or solo play to get their hands on every currency type, without ever taking a credit card out of their wallet. One hundred percent of game content is delivered to every player regardless of how they choose to play, all without offering power overbalancing items. The economy fluctuates and wildly at times, but nothing is to such an extreme degree as to warrant legitimate claims the in-game price of items ever get truly out of a players reach, no matter what player type you are. For example, some of the top players in my server never spent a dime on the game.

Horizontal Game Play

Horizontal is just a fancy shmancy word to describe content that is delivered to players through a director free approach. The easiest way to describe this is through RoM’s professions. While holding their own level system, professions are independent of your characters level. You are free to raise alchemy, blacksmithing, or any other profession to max level whether your character is level 5 or 50. Other systems like player housing and mounts are provided with no “vertical” restrictions. You can get a house for free at level 5 and rent horses from level 1.

Runewaker has not only built in great ways to provide more game content to all players, they couldn’t have done it at a better time. Whether planned or not(I like to believe it’s the former), we’re at an evolutionary shift within the MMORPG world where games are teaching players how to have fun in new ways, and at the same time player perceptions are changing in how they derive fun from MMORPGs. No matter which came first – the chicken or the egg – RoM is providing old and new ways to have fun, surfing on this wave of change like a pro surf boarder in the lead.

Quests and World Lore

At first glance, RoM seems to have quests the same as games like WoW and Warhammer. You have world quests and daily quests. But there are subtle ways in which RoM implements them that creates more options and fun for players.

One difference in dailies is that you can collect the items needed without first having to accept the quest. This is a very big deal in the world of MMORPGs both RMT and subscriber models. It gives players freedom from constraints and provides many “kill two birds” options. For instance:

Warhammer’s dailies require that you go seek out the location to accept the quest then return to the location where you get the needed drops. This is fine, but RoM’s method puts power and options into the players hand. Now if you’d rather be doing world quests or grinding for different drops or are busy in any other endeavor and don’t want to feel forced, you can choose to keep these daily drops or discard them. Someone may be in a position where they plan on heading near a daily quest board as soon as they finish mining, grinding, or doing whatever else in their current area, so they figure they’ll kill two birds with one stone and collect them. When they go into town to attend to their main objective, they can quickly stop off and accept the quest, which will be immediately completed. You can see how this frees players up to attend to what they want, when they want, and still provide the options of taking or leaving daily quest drops.

An aspect of world(or general) quests, that may not be blindingly apparent at first look, is how well they deliver RoM’s world lore in a continuously driven and richly expanding way.

When I first looked into the world lore, I felt it was very lacking. It seemed to overgeneralize a semi-unique past along with some briefly but no less generic overviews of individual zones. After playing for months I realized how bloodthirsty I became in wanting to complete all quests; not for gold, or experience, but simply to keep reading.

A rich and detailed story started unfolding before me through all the world quests. It’s done in such a fun way as well. All 1,200+ of RoM’s current world quests are worth reading as they not only add details of the worlds history, but also details of its present and still yet giving hints as to where events are headed in the future. The story is delivered cleverly through miniature quest strings and individual quests both stand alone and tied to various dungeons and instances throughout the world. By using a little brain power you can easily piece together the ongoing story regardless of the order in which you accept the quests. There’s also “Epic Quests” that are like side stories, that still add to details to the world lore, with some nice rewards along the way. If you feel RoM has no real world lore to speak of, then you haven’t read the quests.

RoM’s quests are well planned, timed, and scripted to take into consideration players driving the timing, delivery, and being an “actor” in them. They aren’t simply a tool to drive forward leveling, but are all like acts, or chapters, of a well written play. The major downside is the enhanced importance in translation. RoM has to be translated into English which no doubt leaves things to be lost in turn overshadowing the importance they placed on quest design. As long as they can continue to place a high standard on translating, and keep mistakes to a minimum, I will always feel RoM’s quests are more meaningful than WoW’s or any of the other MMORPGs currently out.

Many players have no doubt become disheartened by quests and nowadays rarely read the text, but each and every world quest, in RoM, is a significant piece to the puzzle that is its unique and interesting world lore. Perhaps players could lament they don’t like to try and put the pieces together and would rather have the lore all written out on the website or some other more direct delivery method, but Runewaker has taken the limited options and picked the best of them. Even if players interested in world lore look down on this, the upside far outweighs the downside by breathing life into quests in desperate need of some form of resuscitation. Given available options, this is the best one that brings back strong meaning and importance to quests, and is a terrific new way to deliver world lore where the player is more immersed in the story.

Unparalleled Customization

On top of making great MMORPG features even better, RoM hasn’t skimped on unique content.

* User Interface

When you enter the world of Toborea for the first time, you are greeted with a fairly basic user interface. Many players aren’t used to being greeted with much hospitality in a game and therefore stop short at accepting this as being an almost archaic user interface devoid of any personality. Look a little closer. RoM offers unparalleled customization options in its user interface. It allows a very large number of hot keys to be organized horizontally, vertically, or a combination of both and placed anywhere on screen you wish. On top of that, you can customize every single part of your UI in a similar fashion.

* Add ons

Those familiar with WoW add ons, will recognize this term, and yes they are just that(only for RoM). Add ons are player made programs that can be used to change everything from colors, shapes, and sizes of your user interface, to adding tools such as built in calculators, auction house tools, and a slew of macros and scripts to enhance your playing experience.

* Macros and scripts

Whether a simple text macro(combining commands together to be executed in one button push) to shout “Hoozah!” as you cast fireball, or a much more complex set of macros and scripts, RoM lets you do it. Unlike any other subscriber based or RMT based MMORPG that only let you make very basic text or emoticon macros, change armor, or don’t offer macro creation at all, RoM lets you create macros from anything. Want to string a mixture of heals and spells together into a macro? Would you like to be able to make a macro to switch from a two handed sword to a one handed sword and shield so you can cast the shield required protection buff and then switch back to your 2 handed weapon, followed by a few attack spells all in the blink of an eye with the press of one macro? Go for it.

Whether through scripts, macros, add ons or the plethora of built-in tools, RoM gives players near unlimited options in customizing their gaming experience.

Bringing the Fear of Death Back

* Experience Debt

Rom has added a great system to provide a significant element of “fear” of dying without being overly annoying. Most RMT based MMORPGs will take away a percentage of earned experience when you are killed. While this adds to a desire not to die, it does little else and also comes with an equal or greater amount of annoyance which only takes away from a players perceived fun.

RoM has added “Experience Debt” where you accrue a percentage of debt based on your character’s level. Once in debt, you will still gain experience, but a percentage of gained experience first goes to paying off the debt.

* Meaningful PK(player killing)

There are both PvE(Player vs. Environment) and PvP(Player v. Player) servers to choose from when starting RoM. In a PvP server, PK has had its meaningfulness ramped up. There’s reputation points to be gained or lost which results in certain advantages or disadvantages and there is also the added “fear” of losing not only items that a player may be carrying in their bags, but also items could drop that are being worn at the time of the gank. Another feature is that there are no PvP related factions. Anyone can fight each other or get attacked at any moment. As a nice trade-off of “fear” and annoyance, you do not accrue experience debt in PK situations and other non-combat situations(such as falling to your death).

The importance or “fear” aspect of dying in MMORPGs has become a major concern in the industry as well as the game communities. RoM has found a way to bring it back with minimal annoyances attached to it.

Unique Features That All MMORPGs Could Learn From

* No More Clones

A problem for characters at any level in other MMORPGs is the very finite limit to how armor can be customized. This is also very visible at an MMORPGs level cap. In a game like WoW you’ll have massive amounts of players that worked hard reaching the highest level and getting the best armor and weapons, but there’s a lot of disappointment when you realize that anyone else who has the same race end up as clones of each other. A lot of importance is lost in having armor that looks like everyone else. Players lose all individuality and are simply small armies of stormtroopers with no way to tell them apart. Although you have plenty of armor to choose from, this problem can still occur at any level.

RoM has items known as “aggregators” that allow you to take the statistics of one item and transfer them to another. So if the ultimate in-game sword is still desired for its strength, but you like the less powerful and lower level sword because it’s a cool sparkly blue, you can have it.

The aggregators work for all visible armor pieces and weapons. This little addition opens up a whole world of potential. The options for new players generated bragging rights and achievements open up to players not only wanting to have the most powerful gear but the coolest looking too. This plays into horizontal game play as well. Hours, days, or much more could be joyfully spent hunting down favored armor regardless of level.

But wait there’s more…

RoM also has other character(and mount) customization features allowing you to color individual pieces of armor, and not just a simple basic color. You have a lot of control and a massive color palette to choose colors from for your character and even coloring your mounts. Your character can truly be unique with features that let you choose from millions of colors for skin, hair, visible armor, weapons, and mounts.

* Putting the “Runes” Into Runes of Magic

Runes play a part in the story lore as well as game mechanics. RoM uses runes in professions as well as enhancing armor and weapon attributes. There is a wide variety of runes already in the game and most can also be added together or mixed to form new more powerful runes.

The main tool for this is the “Arcane Transmuter”. The amount of runes in combination with other armor and weapon enhancements offered in RoM gives players a lot to do. The Arcane Transmuter can seem a bit overwhelming when first starting to use it, but with a little practice players will quickly be upgrading their items through, not only runes that can be created, but also through enhancement jewels and tiering.

* Fusion Stones

Just like many other subscriber based MMORPGs, weapons and armor can come in tiers. When found or dropped from mobs, tiers are based off the character level requirement. Through the use of fusion stones, you can raise an items tier, which in turn could allow it to accept more powerful runes and raises attributes.

* Enhancement Jewels

While fusion stones and runes take a little more understanding and time to figure out, there is another way to upgrade an item that is a bit easier to do. Enhancement Jewels can be purchased that you simply apply to an item to give it a + status. The jewels have a chance of success and failure which can downgrade any previous jewel enhancements or raise it still further.

* Disenchanting Items

Blank fusion stones can be used in a process where you wish to strip certain attributes off an item to later add to another item.

All these options for upgrading do tend to get boiled down into one “must-have” option for serious competitors but still leave plenty of different options based off amounts of time, work, and money required to upgrade regardless of whether your a hardcore endgamer, a very casual casual player, or anywhere in between.

No Ghost Towns

Many MMORPG landscapes are dotted with towns, villages, tents, and hubs of one kind or another. All too often though, you can find little plots of housing in zones very far from a main city that end up being ghost towns. Other than maybe wanting a specific quest or three, there’s no reason to make a long journey away from a main city to a ghost town where there’s nothing to do, and no one to talk to. Everyone ends up gathering in only one or two places within the games world while any other towns are basically left empty with no one milling about.

RoM has added, to one degree or another- based on the zone and encampment – player amenities in every hub adding to the social reason for players to congregate. This ensures meeting groups of players in every hub of the world. Many of these players will be the same level so you’re likely to meet up with people to run instances and complete quests much quicker. It’s yet another seemingly small thing that creates a huge difference and has a large impact on the overall MMORPG.

Regardless of when you started playing, or at what rate of speed you are leveling and/or questing, when you roll into any of the many towns in RoM you are greeted with a living breathing little community that does a lot to feed a players perceptions of how this really is a real, vibrant, living world.

* NPCs Among Us

The vast amount of NPCs, combined with people sounds(the sound of crowds milling about greet you in most towns) amplifies this sense of a world that feels much larger than it actually is. It all combines with the very integrated continuous story driven quests, crafting stations, and other player amenities.

Quests are also built out of these hubs. No taking a quest to go kill 10 boar out in the middle of nowhere that aren’t hurting anyone. Quests, as I mentioned are very story driven and this is also apparent in any sized hub anywhere in the game world. There’s large amounts of rationale, reason, and purpose for how the quests work and interact with the NPCs of any hub.

Making Standard MMORPG Tools More Player Friendly

When I started World of Warcraft, I loved it and was amazed by what it had to offer, but numerous tiny annoyances poked me multiple times every game session. It reached the point that my frustration levels were through the roof.

RoM uses similar windows, and in-game tools(as does many MMORPGs), but I noticed my frustration was significantly reduced because I felt RoM delivered the same tools to me in a much more player-friendly method that gave me options. Even if players are going to typically all choose the same methods to explore a virtual world, the perceptions that a MMORPG can feed a players mind plays a big part on whether they have fun or not.

Even though I chose to go after skills and spells, in WoW, that I could only get in one director driven way, I didn’t like the “feeling” of being forced to do this. What if at any moment I got bored and wanted to switch to joining friends in a party slaying mobs or go PK other players my level. I could do it, but I really couldn’t do it. For instance, my friends often told me you’re not strong enough because you haven’t gotten your class specific skills yet. They might as well have said “Go back and do the “required”(see: forced) quests in the only area they are available, in the only way to obtain them before returning to explore and level up with us throughout the rest of the world”.

I was frustrated with how difficult it was to do something as simple as gain my skills, find a specific NPC, keep track of quests, etc…. I quickly realized that while WoW is still an amazingly fun experience for me, it is very director driven. They do many step oriented requirements that require you to complete many tasks in a very specific manner outlined by the game, before being able to obtain items, honor, reputation, quests, etc…

There’s also minor annoyances when simply opening up a quest window to find it reset leaving me to re-scroll to find what I need, limited bag organizing options, and many other blood pressure raisers.

RoM has virtually done away with this directed and limited options feel. I can level my spells and skills from anywhere with the only requirement being that I gain points from killing…anything anywhere. Apart from a few quest requirements before entering certain instances, there’s no caps put on when I can obtain a mount, when I can go to certain zones, how far I can level professions, and much more.

RoM has a slick World Search interface that lets you adjust many settings to your preference. You can turn on auto-run, NPC locaters, Turn on or off a myriad of labels; player names, mob names, mob health bar, NPC names, tool tip pop ups, easier to use quest logs, and many more minor tweaks that have me playing RoM in the same manner I played WoW but without those annoyances. Sure, one could argue that it takes any challenge or skill out of the game to turn easy NPC locaters on or turn auto-run on. Well, if some players feel that way, they aren’t forced, they are given the option to turn those features off to enhance their particular play style.

Game Tie-Ins

What other RMT based MMORPG has a full range of merchandise tie-ins including posters, mugs, mouse pads, t-shirts, and more? Some other RMT companies have occasional “giveaways” to win these types of items on an exclusive basis, but it’s a fully implemented year round store for RoM. I think the fact Runewaker started all these merchandise tie-ins at such an early stage of RoM’s life adds a lot of potential to see many more tie-ins as the MMORPG ages.

It All Adds Up

I encourage anyone of any age or MMORPG background to try Runes of Magic. You will not be disappointed. Whether you’ve never played a Western subscriber based game, or never played an Asian RMT based game, you will find a lot of fun in RoM that improves upon both of these MMORPG business models, and play styles in many different ways.

These seemingly small changes are really not so small and show that the developers actually thought, and thought hard about the choices they made. RoM has many small changes, each that make a big difference, but also show skill and talent to be placed in the same game together providing the most enjoyable MMORPG experience since the early days of World of Warcraft. But I’m not solely comparing, because RoM has even transcended those times by pushing the envelope in offering an unprecedented amount of player options and large improvements over currently established game mechanics. Runewaker is exploring and braving vast unexplored terrain in a successful manner compared to Blizzard.

It is a lot of boasting to say all this, but looking closer at immense affects that even the seemingly smallest in game changes -like immediately being able to obtain a mount- have far reaching effects.

It’s enough to say that RoM has made a cornucopia of brilliantly fun changes and additions to the MMORPG genre, but each of those changes are like a pebble thrown into a lake creating a ripple affect that spreads out touching and playing off all the aspects of RoM.

I don’t think it’s a stretch in any form of the word to say that RoM has swooped in under the radar and fooled us all. That is perhaps the one major flaw in the design. RoM’s ingenious game design, implementation, and improvements aren’t as apparent as WoW’s were back in the day.

But It nonetheless is showing that good things don’t need an overabundance of buzz or advertising. The game is only a year old and has been opening up new servers at a break neck speed.

Will RoM be a WoW killer? probably not. I don’t think they’ll ever be as large of a company as Blizzard. Blizzard has been the massive exception to the rule, when it comes to the world of MMORPGs. There’s just too much history in Blizzard that concerns not only the quality of their games but how they have evolved over time as a company. However I think players and companies around the world are already perking up their ears and paying attention to what quite possibly could be known as the second greatest moment in MMORPG history.

In retrospect, RoM has not only done what WoW has done in building the next greatest MMORPG, but also in how the company runs. Runewaker has done what Blizzard has done by taking the best of pre-existing MMORPG features, combining them, and adding their own fun elements, but they are also braving new waters as a company. They have already outgrown any other RMT company in size of employees and plan to grow RoM much larger as time goes by. Runewaker isn’t afraid to be innovators, to tread new waters to improve MMORPGs in the future and to improve the business model the genre has been working with.

  frostsmith

Novice Member

Joined: 2/01/10
Posts: 112

2/02/10 2:57:32 PM#2

I think the game is decent... not great. Needs to improve the lag and update the graphics a little. The only major flaw that I see is the customer service.. which it has none in my eyes. You have GMs that run around like children on a sugarhigh and banning anyone that asks for help because they don't want to deal with it. Also, if you try to point out that their so-called free diamonds surveys are not on the up and up... they delete the thread or ban you. Which many people have said on their forums and got the boot. It's a scam and they're better off without peanutlabs. Hell, I never got my 200 diamonds for just signing up to take the surveys.

 

Yeah, it's totally free and you can earn enough diamonds just gathering materials to sell on AH for a mount... but that takes forever since the economy is terrible. Right now, I wish I had my money back because they banned me for speaking my mind in a civilized way. I've lost a few hundred that I'll never see again.

  drbaltazar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7955

2/02/10 3:13:01 PM#3

mm there are way more perfect world player then there are rom player.as for their feature ,im sorry but only one is truelly outstanding its their dual class system,keep fight would have been great but nobody do those so its basicly like eq2 arena yes its there but since nobody goes there it means there is something wrong with it

same thing for rom keep fight!

in the free to pay market perfect world is a success ,maplestory is a success.rom is doing fare but when you compare it to wow

it makes me laugh its not even close to it.pwi is close if not better, number of player shows it.i went there last week end

it was packed ,same for dragon oath its a simple game but it was packed if dragon oath change their camera angle a bit so we can view less isometric view and more real world view this one might surprise a lot because graphic are great  lore is nice

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

  giantsquid

Runes of Magic Correspondent

Joined: 7/31/08
Posts: 118

 
OP  2/02/10 4:22:50 PM#4
Originally posted by drbaltazar

mm there are way more perfect world player then there are rom player.as for their feature ,im sorry but only one is truelly outstanding its their dual class system,keep fight would have been great but nobody do those so its basicly like eq2 arena yes its there but since nobody goes there it means there is something wrong with it

same thing for rom keep fight!

in the free to pay market perfect world is a success ,maplestory is a success.rom is doing fare but when you compare it to wow

it makes me laugh its not even close to it.pwi is close if not better, number of player shows it.i went there last week end

it was packed ,same for dragon oath its a simple game but it was packed if dragon oath change their camera angle a bit so we can view less isometric view and more real world view this one might surprise a lot because graphic are great  lore is nice

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

F2P denial

"Many Chinese MMOs, such as Perfect World, have been localized for the Western market, but they haven't done well" link

The most popular F2P in the world are:

  • British (Runescape)
  • Korean (Maple Story, Atlantica)
  • Taiwanese (Runes of Magic)

link

  giantsquid

Runes of Magic Correspondent

Joined: 7/31/08
Posts: 118

 
OP  2/02/10 4:35:35 PM#5
Originally posted by drbaltazar

mm there are way more perfect world player then there are rom player.as for their feature ,im sorry but only one is truelly outstanding its their dual class system,keep fight would have been great but nobody do those so its basicly like eq2 arena yes its there but since nobody goes there it means there is something wrong with it

same thing for rom keep fight!

in the free to pay market perfect world is a success ,maplestory is a success.rom is doing fare but when you compare it to wow

it makes me laugh its not even close to it.pwi is close if not better, number of player shows it.i went there last week end

it was packed ,same for dragon oath its a simple game but it was packed if dragon oath change their camera angle a bit so we can view less isometric view and more real world view this one might surprise a lot because graphic are great  lore is nice

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

I just started downloading Dragon Oath.  Are you saying you don't have complete camera control, in the game?

  Luilu

Novice Member

Joined: 2/03/10
Posts: 34

2/08/10 11:23:19 AM#6

true words!

  User Deleted
2/11/10 4:46:54 PM#7
Originally posted by giantsquid
Originally posted by drbaltazar

mm there are way more perfect world player then there are rom player.as for their feature ,im sorry but only one is truelly outstanding its their dual class system,keep fight would have been great but nobody do those so its basicly like eq2 arena yes its there but since nobody goes there it means there is something wrong with it

same thing for rom keep fight!

in the free to pay market perfect world is a success ,maplestory is a success.rom is doing fare but when you compare it to wow

it makes me laugh its not even close to it.pwi is close if not better, number of player shows it.i went there last week end

it was packed ,same for dragon oath its a simple game but it was packed if dragon oath change their camera angle a bit so we can view less isometric view and more real world view this one might surprise a lot because graphic are great  lore is nice

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

F2P denial

"Many Chinese MMOs, such as Perfect World, have been localized for the Western market, but they haven't done well" link

The most popular F2P in the world are:

  • British (Runescape)
  • Korean (Maple Story, Atlantica)
  • Taiwanese (Runes of Magic)

link

Runescape FTW!!!!

  Luilu

Novice Member

Joined: 2/03/10
Posts: 34

2/12/10 3:27:13 AM#8
Originally posted by drbaltazar

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

Hm i´m from Europe and Allods is not hyped over here. Allods is more kind of an "it´s-ok-game" and not that deep and FULL game like rom... RoM has way more features, just announced their 3rd Chapter, which sounds pretty awesome with Guildcastle-Wars and Instance-Difficulty selections n stuff like that.

So to be honest, only a few of my friends are interested in allods, just to take a quick look at it - but anyway they won´t stop playing RoM. I´ve tried allods for myself, but it just looks nice. Thats it..... there is no feeling, you never really feel connected with the game and the death penalty is crazy... like half an hour when your Max-Lvl - and you can only avoid it with REAL money....

So to sum up, im NOT from america, and we´re not all going to play allods :) 

  Daytonazer0

Novice Member

Joined: 11/09/05
Posts: 21

2/12/10 3:36:23 AM#9
Originally posted by Luilu
Originally posted by drbaltazar

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

Hm i´m from Europe and Allods is not hyped over here. Allods is more kind of an "it´s-ok-game" and not that deep and FULL game like rom... RoM has way more features, just announced their 3rd Chapter, which sounds pretty awesome with Guildcastle-Wars and Instance-Difficulty selections n stuff like that.

So to be honest, only a few of my friends are interested in allods, just to take a quick look at it - but anyway they won´t stop playing RoM. I´ve tried allods for myself, but it just looks nice. Thats it..... there is no feeling, you never really feel connected with the game and the death penalty is crazy... like half an hour when your Max-Lvl - and you can only avoid it with REAL money....

So to sum up, im NOT from america, and we´re not all going to play allods :) 

 

Just to back up this claim, also from Europe, have also played allods closed beta... and also won't be playing it :) when i asked my gaming friends what they thought about it, only one had heard about it and he didn't really know much about it. I personally only heard about it through fileplanet: an american website.

Saying that, RoM dosn't look much better. Must admit i've not actually played it, but the trailers on the game's website put me right off. Why would anyone choose to play it over WoW?

  frostsmith

Novice Member

Joined: 2/01/10
Posts: 112

2/12/10 3:39:20 AM#10
Originally posted by Luilu
Originally posted by drbaltazar

in the book of a lot of ex rom player ,allods online is a better game i cant speak of it too much since they are in close beta (nda)

but suffice it to see allods online will be a big title everywhere it land(ok maybe not america since nothing with a  ingame store

is popular  in america.but for the rest of the world THEY WILL PLAY ALLODS.thats for sure.

 

Hm i´m from Europe and Allods is not hyped over here. Allods is more kind of an "it´s-ok-game" and not that deep and FULL game like rom... RoM has way more features, just announced their 3rd Chapter, which sounds pretty awesome with Guildcastle-Wars and Instance-Difficulty selections n stuff like that.

So to be honest, only a few of my friends are interested in allods, just to take a quick look at it - but anyway they won´t stop playing RoM. I´ve tried allods for myself, but it just looks nice. Thats it..... there is no feeling, you never really feel connected with the game and the death penalty is crazy... like half an hour when your Max-Lvl - and you can only avoid it with REAL money....

So to sum up, im NOT from america, and we´re not all going to play allods :) 

 

What depth? All the ideas they(ROM) has is stolen from WoW...

Allods is far superior to RoM in graphics, gameplay and story. Also, you can just buy drops or whatever to quicken the purgatory and thats without using real money. Allods doesn't have an item shop now so I don't know where you got the need money idea? In RoM you NEED to spend money to enjoy it. You're better off playing WoW and it's way cheaper than RoM. In RoM you gotta keep spending more and more real money to continue and it will outweigh the money you would spend playing WoW the same length.

Stick with Allods Online... it's free and by the looks of it way better GMs are running Allods than the kids that barely run RoM.

  alextodo

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Joined: 8/09/06
Posts: 233

2/12/10 4:00:24 AM#11

Saying that ROM is a much more full game then Allods or that it has more features is just a very bad claim. I dont wanna go into details and such , but suffice to say that Allods is launching with more content ten ROM has after 1 year [ 2 if you count RA`s time too].

Allods looks better , feels way more polished in Graphics , Control and Gameplay. First time I left the Empire city and was out on the field , looking at all the dandelions being blown be the wind , the dense nicely animated grass ... it was beautiful. The Astral Ships at lvl 30+ are just amazing. I was sad that we got so little time with them in CB , but since OB is just around the corner I just cant wait to go back to exploring all the hidden Instances and Raid Bosses.

Allods is not that known yet , because they haven`t advertised it as much yet. If you look at RoM ... there is a banner advertising it on almost every single MMO website.

 

The one feature RoM boasts is the dual-class system , which suffers greatly because of class balance. I stopped playing right before the Elves came out and back then all you could see where Rogue/Knight , Mage/Priest and Priest/Mage ... because they were the only viable option at endgame Raiding. Since the elves , the Rogue/Warden popped on the list of OP classes.

 

Dont get me wrong .... I loved RoM and still think that its a decent game , but it cant even come close to Allods , neither in Gameplay nor Polish.

  Arthasm

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/26/09
Posts: 696

2/12/10 6:38:57 AM#12

Rom... ROFL! 

U seems like someone who get payed by Frogster to speak how RoM is a good game. Or u are totally newbie.

Get play RoM about year and half, reach endgame, and then speak.

Also, pls check a major bugs and thousands of things are not implemented. Cmon, this is not beta.

2 milion players? Lol... beter say like this - 500k players and 1.5kk alts. My guild has 110+ members. Everyone are riched endgame, still everyone has t6-t9 weapons. No one NEVER EVER payed for item shop. But, everyone of them have 200+ alts.

Exploiting and hacking? Believe or not, laugh or not, this one existing with blessing of Frogster. There is one mod on EU forums, which was one of first exploiters on servers. Still 90% of endgame players using that. No one ever get banned.

Bots - 6+ months of reporting them by 20k+ players, everyday, they are still there.

And there is a 100000000000+ more thing that makes RoM not worth of playing or spending time on it. And I'm to sick and tired to write.

And thx for ur such a great review of RoM, still somewhere it's a nice game, but pls, next time use their official forums and see it from eyes of experienced players, then wrote review. Ty!

 

 

 

  Talin

Novice Member

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 825

You only live once... make it count!

2/12/10 7:10:22 AM#13

The OP is coming across too much like a representative from the RoM company, as opposed to a supportive player. I agree that RoM is a good game compared to its P2P bretheren, and actually one of the best F2P games I've ever tried. For those people unwilling or unable to pay for a MMO, I think RoM is the best thing to happen to them in a long time.

Do I think their RMT model and other features will change the MMO landscape forever? No. However, I do hope that RoM helps to raise the standard for F2P games now and in the future.

  camp11111

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/24/09
Posts: 638

2/12/10 7:25:08 AM#14

The better free to play MMO's only throw rocks in the ponds of mediocre succesful MMO's, which is an odd thing.

Because ...

The more of them the more they support the one 1200 lbs gorilla in a zoo with 10lbs chimps situation.

You know what's the current cash situation of Activision Blizzard (communicated on feb 10th) ?

3.1 billion dollars ... cash with another 1 billion savings coming over in 2010.

That's just ... cash money folks. The result of mostly 2 games.

So the pond to throw things in is out of that league. ROM is fishing in the ponds of AoC, War, Aion, ST, ...

Is that a good thing? You decide.

 

 

 

Want a real mmorpg? Play WOW with experience turned off mode and be Pve_Pvp King at any level without a rat race.

  bullbert

Novice Member

Joined: 8/22/10
Posts: 1

8/23/10 11:54:09 AM#15

Quite a long-winded advertisement, you wrote there.

 

Unfortunately, it is hard to find a single true statement, in all your biased ramblings.

  Shooter-90

Novice Member

Joined: 5/10/07
Posts: 100

8/25/10 8:41:31 PM#16

There's actually more than 4 types of currency in game not including Black Codex. I think I've counted 5 or 6, the Arena Points can be used to buy certain rate items and equipment.

  avgwhtguy069

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Joined: 7/18/09
Posts: 22

9/06/10 12:36:18 AM#17
Originally posted by giantsquid

Too bold, too wild a statement? Don’t let the backlash hit you in the face from people saying it’s too outrageous of a statement for outrageousness’s sake. We always hear quite a number of daily statements like these that lead us to believe someone’s just “crying wolf”. “XXX is the new WoW Killer!”, “Best Game Ever!”, etc; All this wolf crying has made the MMORPG community jaded, but don’t forget that the possibility still exists.

Thus ends my preamble or disclaimer to try to artificially un-jade you to look at this article “objectively” and not as another boy who cried wolf. But if you’ve managed to hang on this far, I would like to tell you that I have some broad MMORPG models as well as several detailed explanations with examples to defend my titular claim.

Not only do I believe Runes of Magic is the next evolutionary jump since World of Warcraft hit the scene, I am confident that my facts and information will support this. So let’s get right to it shall we?

Broad Evolutionary Jumps

Runes of Magic(RoM) is the first MMORPG, since World of Warcraft(WoW), to do what it is doing. Namely they have created a great unique world with their own hands but developed around the best parts of some of the best games in the business. This is what WoW did. Runewaker(developers of RoM) has a good team that are MMORPG fans themselves, that saw the best parts of the best games like EQ2, LotRO, Warhammer, and WoW. They took all these great things that the current MMORPG community loves, and smooshed them together, made some tweaks, added their own great unique systems, and wrapped it all in their own world lore. They did this all to a degree very close to what Blizzard did when they created WoW.

* Runewaker also showed strength, bravery, and risk taking ala Blizzard(developers of WoW) in finally taking the best of what’s currently out there and expanding on or improving on it, then “selling” it as an RMT business model.

* Not only have they dared take hold of the reins in the same fashion as only Blizzard has done in all these years, but they are also proving their worth by not just being copy cats, but being vanguards. Runewaker is showing their tenacity and bravery in practically redefining how RMT can work well. No one has done this before them; creating an RMT MMORPG that is closer in scale and game mechanics to most larger subscriber based companies. RoM Both surpasses any size thresh holds and game play mechanics of any previous RMT based MMORPGs.

* Another huge evolutionary change is a more focused implementation of “horizontal game play”. Where the core of most MMORPGs is to direct you to leveling, RoM is going to great lengths to apply large content patches that any player will be able to access without being forced to level to experience all the game’s content without taking away current favorite systems such as raiding.

Most of these boil down into the basic category of “options”. Through Runewaker’s unique and ingenious design they have returned an immeasurable amount of options back to the players while retaining and improving on what has become favored MMORPG elements.

Thus RoM has shown evolutionary and revolutionary additions and changes to not only the RMT business model, but to well established subscriber business models as well. While many games are coming out almost daily with great systems and options, none of them have done it to the extent of RoM(since WoW came out).

The Proof is in the Pudding

At first look, RoM seems to simply take great ideas and copy them, which many would be fine with. There is actually much more than meets the eye though, and it’s these subtle small changes that make a huge difference that will have long lasting impacts on the future of MMORPGs and show Runewaker’s true genius.

RoM’s Item Mall (RMT done right)

RoM not only has one of the best Item Malls(filled with only items that will increase the rate of speed at which a player can acquire goals in-game, and nothing is sold that cannot be obtained in-game by purists), but they’ve plugged it directly into their game unlike any other RMT modeled MMORPG to date. They use a total of 4 different types of currency:

1. Diamonds
2. Rubies
3. Gold
4. Phirius Tokens

Through these various RMT and in-game currencies plus the powerful option of letting any player have the ability to earn these currencies in-game through a stable economy, RoM has transcended all previous RMT business models. Any non-paying purist can trade, buy, or sell through one-on-one player transactions, auction house transactions or solo play to get their hands on every currency type, without ever taking a credit card out of their wallet. One hundred percent of game content is delivered to every player regardless of how they choose to play, all without offering power overbalancing items. The economy fluctuates and wildly at times, but nothing is to such an extreme degree as to warrant legitimate claims the in-game price of items ever get truly out of a players reach, no matter what player type you are. For example, some of the top players in my server never spent a dime on the game.

Horizontal Game Play

Horizontal is just a fancy shmancy word to describe content that is delivered to players through a director free approach. The easiest way to describe this is through RoM’s professions. While holding their own level system, professions are independent of your characters level. You are free to raise alchemy, blacksmithing, or any other profession to max level whether your character is level 5 or 50. Other systems like player housing and mounts are provided with no “vertical” restrictions. You can get a house for free at level 5 and rent horses from level 1.

Runewaker has not only built in great ways to provide more game content to all players, they couldn’t have done it at a better time. Whether planned or not(I like to believe it’s the former), we’re at an evolutionary shift within the MMORPG world where games are teaching players how to have fun in new ways, and at the same time player perceptions are changing in how they derive fun from MMORPGs. No matter which came first – the chicken or the egg – RoM is providing old and new ways to have fun, surfing on this wave of change like a pro surf boarder in the lead.

Quests and World Lore

At first glance, RoM seems to have quests the same as games like WoW and Warhammer. You have world quests and daily quests. But there are subtle ways in which RoM implements them that creates more options and fun for players.

One difference in dailies is that you can collect the items needed without first having to accept the quest. This is a very big deal in the world of MMORPGs both RMT and subscriber models. It gives players freedom from constraints and provides many “kill two birds” options. For instance:

Warhammer’s dailies require that you go seek out the location to accept the quest then return to the location where you get the needed drops. This is fine, but RoM’s method puts power and options into the players hand. Now if you’d rather be doing world quests or grinding for different drops or are busy in any other endeavor and don’t want to feel forced, you can choose to keep these daily drops or discard them. Someone may be in a position where they plan on heading near a daily quest board as soon as they finish mining, grinding, or doing whatever else in their current area, so they figure they’ll kill two birds with one stone and collect them. When they go into town to attend to their main objective, they can quickly stop off and accept the quest, which will be immediately completed. You can see how this frees players up to attend to what they want, when they want, and still provide the options of taking or leaving daily quest drops.

An aspect of world(or general) quests, that may not be blindingly apparent at first look, is how well they deliver RoM’s world lore in a continuously driven and richly expanding way.

When I first looked into the world lore, I felt it was very lacking. It seemed to overgeneralize a semi-unique past along with some briefly but no less generic overviews of individual zones. After playing for months I realized how bloodthirsty I became in wanting to complete all quests; not for gold, or experience, but simply to keep reading.

A rich and detailed story started unfolding before me through all the world quests. It’s done in such a fun way as well. All 1,200+ of RoM’s current world quests are worth reading as they not only add details of the worlds history, but also details of its present and still yet giving hints as to where events are headed in the future. The story is delivered cleverly through miniature quest strings and individual quests both stand alone and tied to various dungeons and instances throughout the world. By using a little brain power you can easily piece together the ongoing story regardless of the order in which you accept the quests. There’s also “Epic Quests” that are like side stories, that still add to details to the world lore, with some nice rewards along the way. If you feel RoM has no real world lore to speak of, then you haven’t read the quests.

RoM’s quests are well planned, timed, and scripted to take into consideration players driving the timing, delivery, and being an “actor” in them. They aren’t simply a tool to drive forward leveling, but are all like acts, or chapters, of a well written play. The major downside is the enhanced importance in translation. RoM has to be translated into English which no doubt leaves things to be lost in turn overshadowing the importance they placed on quest design. As long as they can continue to place a high standard on translating, and keep mistakes to a minimum, I will always feel RoM’s quests are more meaningful than WoW’s or any of the other MMORPGs currently out.

Many players have no doubt become disheartened by quests and nowadays rarely read the text, but each and every world quest, in RoM, is a significant piece to the puzzle that is its unique and interesting world lore. Perhaps players could lament they don’t like to try and put the pieces together and would rather have the lore all written out on the website or some other more direct delivery method, but Runewaker has taken the limited options and picked the best of them. Even if players interested in world lore look down on this, the upside far outweighs the downside by breathing life into quests in desperate need of some form of resuscitation. Given available options, this is the best one that brings back strong meaning and importance to quests, and is a terrific new way to deliver world lore where the player is more immersed in the story.

Unparalleled Customization

On top of making great MMORPG features even better, RoM hasn’t skimped on unique content.

* User Interface

When you enter the world of Toborea for the first time, you are greeted with a fairly basic user interface. Many players aren’t used to being greeted with much hospitality in a game and therefore stop short at accepting this as being an almost archaic user interface devoid of any personality. Look a little closer. RoM offers unparalleled customization options in its user interface. It allows a very large number of hot keys to be organized horizontally, vertically, or a combination of both and placed anywhere on screen you wish. On top of that, you can customize every single part of your UI in a similar fashion.

* Add ons

Those familiar with WoW add ons, will recognize this term, and yes they are just that(only for RoM). Add ons are player made programs that can be used to change everything from colors, shapes, and sizes of your user interface, to adding tools such as built in calculators, auction house tools, and a slew of macros and scripts to enhance your playing experience.

* Macros and scripts

Whether a simple text macro(combining commands together to be executed in one button push) to shout “Hoozah!” as you cast fireball, or a much more complex set of macros and scripts, RoM lets you do it. Unlike any other subscriber based or RMT based MMORPG that only let you make very basic text or emoticon macros, change armor, or don’t offer macro creation at all, RoM lets you create macros from anything. Want to string a mixture of heals and spells together into a macro? Would you like to be able to make a macro to switch from a two handed sword to a one handed sword and shield so you can cast the shield required protection buff and then switch back to your 2 handed weapon, followed by a few attack spells all in the blink of an eye with the press of one macro? Go for it.

Whether through scripts, macros, add ons or the plethora of built-in tools, RoM gives players near unlimited options in customizing their gaming experience.

Bringing the Fear of Death Back

* Experience Debt

Rom has added a great system to provide a significant element of “fear” of dying without being overly annoying. Most RMT based MMORPGs will take away a percentage of earned experience when you are killed. While this adds to a desire not to die, it does little else and also comes with an equal or greater amount of annoyance which only takes away from a players perceived fun.

RoM has added “Experience Debt” where you accrue a percentage of debt based on your character’s level. Once in debt, you will still gain experience, but a percentage of gained experience first goes to paying off the debt.

* Meaningful PK(player killing)

There are both PvE(Player vs. Environment) and PvP(Player v. Player) servers to choose from when starting RoM. In a PvP server, PK has had its meaningfulness ramped up. There’s reputation points to be gained or lost which results in certain advantages or disadvantages and there is also the added “fear” of losing not only items that a player may be carrying in their bags, but also items could drop that are being worn at the time of the gank. Another feature is that there are no PvP related factions. Anyone can fight each other or get attacked at any moment. As a nice trade-off of “fear” and annoyance, you do not accrue experience debt in PK situations and other non-combat situations(such as falling to your death).

The importance or “fear” aspect of dying in MMORPGs has become a major concern in the industry as well as the game communities. RoM has found a way to bring it back with minimal annoyances attached to it.

Unique Features That All MMORPGs Could Learn From

* No More Clones

A problem for characters at any level in other MMORPGs is the very finite limit to how armor can be customized. This is also very visible at an MMORPGs level cap. In a game like WoW you’ll have massive amounts of players that worked hard reaching the highest level and getting the best armor and weapons, but there’s a lot of disappointment when you realize that anyone else who has the same race end up as clones of each other. A lot of importance is lost in having armor that looks like everyone else. Players lose all individuality and are simply small armies of stormtroopers with no way to tell them apart. Although you have plenty of armor to choose from, this problem can still occur at any level.

RoM has items known as “aggregators” that allow you to take the statistics of one item and transfer them to another. So if the ultimate in-game sword is still desired for its strength, but you like the less powerful and lower level sword because it’s a cool sparkly blue, you can have it.

The aggregators work for all visible armor pieces and weapons. This little addition opens up a whole world of potential. The options for new players generated bragging rights and achievements open up to players not only wanting to have the most powerful gear but the coolest looking too. This plays into horizontal game play as well. Hours, days, or much more could be joyfully spent hunting down favored armor regardless of level.

But wait there’s more…

RoM also has other character(and mount) customization features allowing you to color individual pieces of armor, and not just a simple basic color. You have a lot of control and a massive color palette to choose colors from for your character and even coloring your mounts. Your character can truly be unique with features that let you choose from millions of colors for skin, hair, visible armor, weapons, and mounts.

* Putting the “Runes” Into Runes of Magic

Runes play a part in the story lore as well as game mechanics. RoM uses runes in professions as well as enhancing armor and weapon attributes. There is a wide variety of runes already in the game and most can also be added together or mixed to form new more powerful runes.

The main tool for this is the “Arcane Transmuter”. The amount of runes in combination with other armor and weapon enhancements offered in RoM gives players a lot to do. The Arcane Transmuter can seem a bit overwhelming when first starting to use it, but with a little practice players will quickly be upgrading their items through, not only runes that can be created, but also through enhancement jewels and tiering.

* Fusion Stones

Just like many other subscriber based MMORPGs, weapons and armor can come in tiers. When found or dropped from mobs, tiers are based off the character level requirement. Through the use of fusion stones, you can raise an items tier, which in turn could allow it to accept more powerful runes and raises attributes.

* Enhancement Jewels

While fusion stones and runes take a little more understanding and time to figure out, there is another way to upgrade an item that is a bit easier to do. Enhancement Jewels can be purchased that you simply apply to an item to give it a + status. The jewels have a chance of success and failure which can downgrade any previous jewel enhancements or raise it still further.

* Disenchanting Items

Blank fusion stones can be used in a process where you wish to strip certain attributes off an item to later add to another item.

All these options for upgrading do tend to get boiled down into one “must-have” option for serious competitors but still leave plenty of different options based off amounts of time, work, and money required to upgrade regardless of whether your a hardcore endgamer, a very casual casual player, or anywhere in between.

No Ghost Towns

Many MMORPG landscapes are dotted with towns, villages, tents, and hubs of one kind or another. All too often though, you can find little plots of housing in zones very far from a main city that end up being ghost towns. Other than maybe wanting a specific quest or three, there’s no reason to make a long journey away from a main city to a ghost town where there’s nothing to do, and no one to talk to. Everyone ends up gathering in only one or two places within the games world while any other towns are basically left empty with no one milling about.

RoM has added, to one degree or another- based on the zone and encampment – player amenities in every hub adding to the social reason for players to congregate. This ensures meeting groups of players in every hub of the world. Many of these players will be the same level so you’re likely to meet up with people to run instances and complete quests much quicker. It’s yet another seemingly small thing that creates a huge difference and has a large impact on the overall MMORPG.

Regardless of when you started playing, or at what rate of speed you are leveling and/or questing, when you roll into any of the many towns in RoM you are greeted with a living breathing little community that does a lot to feed a players perceptions of how this really is a real, vibrant, living world.

* NPCs Among Us

The vast amount of NPCs, combined with people sounds(the sound of crowds milling about greet you in most towns) amplifies this sense of a world that feels much larger than it actually is. It all combines with the very integrated continuous story driven quests, crafting stations, and other player amenities.

Quests are also built out of these hubs. No taking a quest to go kill 10 boar out in the middle of nowhere that aren’t hurting anyone. Quests, as I mentioned are very story driven and this is also apparent in any sized hub anywhere in the game world. There’s large amounts of rationale, reason, and purpose for how the quests work and interact with the NPCs of any hub.

Making Standard MMORPG Tools More Player Friendly

When I started World of Warcraft, I loved it and was amazed by what it had to offer, but numerous tiny annoyances poked me multiple times every game session. It reached the point that my frustration levels were through the roof.

RoM uses similar windows, and in-game tools(as does many MMORPGs), but I noticed my frustration was significantly reduced because I felt RoM delivered the same tools to me in a much more player-friendly method that gave me options. Even if players are going to typically all choose the same methods to explore a virtual world, the perceptions that a MMORPG can feed a players mind plays a big part on whether they have fun or not.

Even though I chose to go after skills and spells, in WoW, that I could only get in one director driven way, I didn’t like the “feeling” of being forced to do this. What if at any moment I got bored and wanted to switch to joining friends in a party slaying mobs or go PK other players my level. I could do it, but I really couldn’t do it. For instance, my friends often told me you’re not strong enough because you haven’t gotten your class specific skills yet. They might as well have said “Go back and do the “required”(see: forced) quests in the only area they are available, in the only way to obtain them before returning to explore and level up with us throughout the rest of the world”.

I was frustrated with how difficult it was to do something as simple as gain my skills, find a specific NPC, keep track of quests, etc…. I quickly realized that while WoW is still an amazingly fun experience for me, it is very director driven. They do many step oriented requirements that require you to complete many tasks in a very specific manner outlined by the game, before being able to obtain items, honor, reputation, quests, etc…

There’s also minor annoyances when simply opening up a quest window to find it reset leaving me to re-scroll to find what I need, limited bag organizing options, and many other blood pressure raisers.

RoM has virtually done away with this directed and limited options feel. I can level my spells and skills from anywhere with the only requirement being that I gain points from killing…anything anywhere. Apart from a few quest requirements before entering certain instances, there’s no caps put on when I can obtain a mount, when I can go to certain zones, how far I can level professions, and much more.

RoM has a slick World Search interface that lets you adjust many settings to your preference. You can turn on auto-run, NPC locaters, Turn on or off a myriad of labels; player names, mob names, mob health bar, NPC names, tool tip pop ups, easier to use quest logs, and many more minor tweaks that have me playing RoM in the same manner I played WoW but without those annoyances. Sure, one could argue that it takes any challenge or skill out of the game to turn easy NPC locaters on or turn auto-run on. Well, if some players feel that way, they aren’t forced, they are given the option to turn those features off to enhance their particular play style.

Game Tie-Ins

What other RMT based MMORPG has a full range of merchandise tie-ins including posters, mugs, mouse pads, t-shirts, and more? Some other RMT companies have occasional “giveaways” to win these types of items on an exclusive basis, but it’s a fully implemented year round store for RoM. I think the fact Runewaker started all these merchandise tie-ins at such an early stage of RoM’s life adds a lot of potential to see many more tie-ins as the MMORPG ages.

It All Adds Up

I encourage anyone of any age or MMORPG background to try Runes of Magic. You will not be disappointed. Whether you’ve never played a Western subscriber based game, or never played an Asian RMT based game, you will find a lot of fun in RoM that improves upon both of these MMORPG business models, and play styles in many different ways.

These seemingly small changes are really not so small and show that the developers actually thought, and thought hard about the choices they made. RoM has many small changes, each that make a big difference, but also show skill and talent to be placed in the same game together providing the most enjoyable MMORPG experience since the early days of World of Warcraft. But I’m not solely comparing, because RoM has even transcended those times by pushing the envelope in offering an unprecedented amount of player options and large improvements over currently established game mechanics. Runewaker is exploring and braving vast unexplored terrain in a successful manner compared to Blizzard.

It is a lot of boasting to say all this, but looking closer at immense affects that even the seemingly smallest in game changes -like immediately being able to obtain a mount- have far reaching effects.

It’s enough to say that RoM has made a cornucopia of brilliantly fun changes and additions to the MMORPG genre, but each of those changes are like a pebble thrown into a lake creating a ripple affect that spreads out touching and playing off all the aspects of RoM.

I don’t think it’s a stretch in any form of the word to say that RoM has swooped in under the radar and fooled us all. That is perhaps the one major flaw in the design. RoM’s ingenious game design, implementation, and improvements aren’t as apparent as WoW’s were back in the day.

But It nonetheless is showing that good things don’t need an overabundance of buzz or advertising. The game is only a year old and has been opening up new servers at a break neck speed.

Will RoM be a WoW killer? probably not. I don’t think they’ll ever be as large of a company as Blizzard. Blizzard has been the massive exception to the rule, when it comes to the world of MMORPGs. There’s just too much history in Blizzard that concerns not only the quality of their games but how they have evolved over time as a company. However I think players and companies around the world are already perking up their ears and paying attention to what quite possibly could be known as the second greatest moment in MMORPG history.

In retrospect, RoM has not only done what WoW has done in building the next greatest MMORPG, but also in how the company runs. Runewaker has done what Blizzard has done by taking the best of pre-existing MMORPG features, combining them, and adding their own fun elements, but they are also braving new waters as a company. They have already outgrown any other RMT company in size of employees and plan to grow RoM much larger as time goes by. Runewaker isn’t afraid to be innovators, to tread new waters to improve MMORPGs in the future and to improve the business model the genre has been working with.

As an open beta and end game player of RoM, I want to address the many in-accuracies and falsehoods you bring up.

 

Runes of Magic(RoM) is the first MMORPG, since World of Warcraft(WoW), to do what it is doing. Namely they have created a great unique world with their own hands but developed around the best parts of some of the best games in the business. This is what WoW did. Runewaker(developers of RoM) has a good team that are MMORPG fans themselves, that saw the best parts of the best games like EQ2, LotRO, Warhammer, and WoW. They took all these great things that the current MMORPG community loves, and smooshed them together, made some tweaks, added their own great unique systems, and wrapped it all in their own world lore. They did this all to a degree very close to what Blizzard did when they created WoW.

If the programmers are the same people who worked on Eq, WoW and others, why then is the coding the worst by far of any MMO out there?  Past or present?  Wny with EVERY update or patch does something else break?

 

* Another huge evolutionary change is a more focused implementation of “horizontal game play”. Where the core of most MMORPGs is to direct you to leveling, RoM is going to great lengths to apply large content patches that any player will be able to access without being forced to level to experience all the game’s content without taking away current favorite systems such as raiding.

Really?  What content can a lvl 50+ and a lvl 5 player run together (other than a 1 hour per day bugged siege).  None.  Raiding?  Hmm, since they made a major change to the ONLY low level raidable instance, there is NO raidable content until you are level 50+.  "Horizontal game play"... lets talk about this.  There is only 1 way for you to get anywhere in this game and that is to level by completing quests.  Almost every quest in this game is level dependant.  You NEED to level in order to experience anything beyond the beginner zone, like every other game out there.  NOTHING special here.

Most of these boil down into the basic category of “options”. Through Runewaker’s unique and ingenious design they have returned an immeasurable amount of options back to the players while retaining and improving on what has become favored MMORPG elements.

What options are you talking about?  The VERY limited audio/video options?  MOST options that players gain are from using 3rd party addons.  The game itself only has about 15-20 options the players can tweak themselves.   One example of this is chat.  Players can turn off every type of chat channel EXCEPT world chat, which by Frogsters own admission is a bug and is supposed to have a option to turn it off, yet doesn't.

 

 

RoM not only has one of the best Item Malls(filled with only items that will increase the rate of speed at which a player can acquire goals in-game, and nothing is sold that cannot be obtained in-game by purists), but they’ve plugged it directly into their game unlike any other RMT modeled MMORPG to date. They use a total of 4 different types of currency:

1. Diamonds
2. Rubies
3. Gold
4. Phirius Tokens

"Nothing is sold that cannot be obtained in-game by purists".  Hmm, wrong!  Permanant mounts for one.  There is NO PLACE in game you can acquire a permanant mount EXCEPT to BUY one from the item shop.

4 different type of currency?  Let's discuss this....

Diamonds - MUST be paid for with REAL CASH (by someone).  Diamonds are ONLY usable in the item shop.

Rubies - ARE ONLY ATTAINED FROM SPENDING DIAMONDS.  Rubies have their own item shop which is limited in the item available.

Gold - Mobs DO NOT drop gold, so the only way to make gold is to complete quests or sell trash drops off dead mobs.

Phirius Tokens - ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FROM COMPLETING DAILY QUESTS and are NOT TRADABLE.  You can ONLY spend them in a 3rd type of item shop.

So, there may be 4 types of currency as you put it, but 3 of those 4 types can only be used in 1 place.

Any non-paying purist can trade, buy, or sell through one-on-one player transactions, auction house transactions or solo play to get their hands on every currency type, without ever taking a credit card out of their wallet.

You couldn't be more wrong.  There is no place in game for you to earn diamonds.  Someone had to pay real money to buy diamonds.

For example, some of the top players in my server never spent a dime on the game.

This can be true but only if 1.  The player knew/had friends who spent real money and were then able to sell item shop items to him for gold; or 2.  Player spent copious amounts of time farming for trash drops to sell to vendors for gold.

 

Horizontal is just a fancy shmancy word to describe content that is delivered to players through a director free approach. The easiest way to describe this is through RoM’s professions. While holding their own level system, professions are independent of your characters level. You are free to raise alchemy, blacksmithing, or any other profession to max level whether your character is level 5 or 50. Other systems like player housing and mounts are provided with no “vertical” restrictions. You can get a house for free at level 5 and rent horses from level 1.

What the OP doesn't tell you is that you are limited by character level or gold in order to acquire the materials to make the higher level craftable items.  You are also limited to a certain number of craft/gather skills above different level tiers (ie all tradeskills can be learned upto level 20, then 21-40 you have 6 available, 41-60 3 available, 61+ 1 available) and this includes the gathering skill you need to harvest materials.

You can gain your house by talking to the housemaid in the first city for free at level 1.  Horse rentals are 15 minutes for 300 gold or 2 hours for 3000 gold.  At level 10, you might have a little more than 3k gold total.

 

RoM’s quests are well planned, timed, and scripted to take into consideration players driving the timing, delivery, and being an “actor” in them. They aren’t simply a tool to drive forward leveling, but are all like acts, or chapters, of a well written play. The major downside is the enhanced importance in translation. RoM has to be translated into English which no doubt leaves things to be lost in turn overshadowing the importance they placed on quest design. As long as they can continue to place a high standard on translating, and keep mistakes to a minimum, I will always feel RoM’s quests are more meaningful than WoW’s or any of the other MMORPGs currently out.

Really?  I can't count the number of quests that are "go here and talk to so and so OR go here and kill x amount of this.  Same as most every other mmo out there.

Often times the translations are utterly aparent.  Grammatical errors are abundant.  Alot of quests are chained between channels so that if you begin a quest that involves an npc moving to another location, and another person starts that same quest before yours completes, it will reset yours and you have to begin again.  Other quests can only be completed in certain channels, in/out of party, ect.  None of which is communcated to the player.

 

When you enter the world of Toborea for the first time, you are greeted with a fairly basic user interface. Many players aren’t used to being greeted with much hospitality in a game and therefore stop short at accepting this as being an almost archaic user interface devoid of any personality. Look a little closer. RoM offers unparalleled customization options in its user interface. It allows a very large number of hot keys to be organized horizontally, vertically, or a combination of both and placed anywhere on screen you wish. On top of that, you can customize every single part of your UI in a similar fashion.

This is incorrect also.  The only part of the UI that is customizable is the hotbar.  You cannot move your minimap/chatboxes or anything else short of using a 3rd party addon.

 

Those familiar with WoW add ons, will recognize this term, and yes they are just that(only for RoM). Add ons are player made programs that can be used to change everything from colors, shapes, and sizes of your user interface, to adding tools such as built in calculators, auction house tools, and a slew of macros and scripts to enhance your playing experience.

Typically with most every major content update the LUA and other addon necessary files are altered rendering almost every addon un-usable until the addon author has a chance to go and patch it.  RoM doesn't work with addon devs to improve this, and lately made it HARDER for devs to create new addons.

Rom has added a great system to provide a significant element of “fear” of dying without being overly annoying. Most RMT based MMORPGs will take away a percentage of earned experience when you are killed. While this adds to a desire not to die, it does little else and also comes with an equal or greater amount of annoyance which only takes away from a players perceived fun.

RoM has added “Experience Debt” where you accrue a percentage of debt based on your character’s level. Once in debt, you will still gain experience, but a percentage of gained experience first goes to paying off the debt.

Yes, this is probably one of the better features of RoM, it really isnt any different than some of the current games out there.  Your xp/tp debt is 70% of whatever you earn (from anything that gives xp/tp) until the debt is paid off.  You cannot change the % paid.  Tp (Talent points is also hindered by debt thus slowing the process you can level your skills).

Meaningful PK(player killing)

There are both PvE(Player vs. Environment) and PvP(Player v. Player) servers to choose from when starting RoM. In a PvP server, PK has had its meaningfulness ramped up. There’s reputation points to be gained or lost which results in certain advantages or disadvantages and there is also the added “fear” of losing not only items that a player may be carrying in their bags, but also items could drop that are being worn at the time of the gank. Another feature is that there are no PvP related factions. Anyone can fight each other or get attacked at any moment. As a nice trade-off of “fear” and annoyance, you do not accrue experience debt in PK situations and other non-combat situations(such as falling to your death).

Is this "meaningful pvp" the same pvp that allows players of ANY level to attack players of ANY OTHER level (ie level 60 attacks a level 15).   You can "seal" items to prevent them from dropping as loot, but this requires you to buy item shop items and are limited to using only 8 when you can wear upto about 16 pieces of gear.  These "reputation" points are cause for player grief later when you can not enter higher level cities in order to even collect quests to level.  Essentailly making it a ceiling to levelling if you have chosen to be the attacker in PvP.

No More Clones

A problem for characters at any level in other MMORPGs is the very finite limit to how armor can be customized. This is also very visible at an MMORPGs level cap. In a game like WoW you’ll have massive amounts of players that worked hard reaching the highest level and getting the best armor and weapons, but there’s a lot of disappointment when you realize that anyone else who has the same race end up as clones of each other. A lot of importance is lost in having armor that looks like everyone else. Players lose all individuality and are simply small armies of stormtroopers with no way to tell them apart. Although you have plenty of armor to choose from, this problem can still occur at any level.

RoM has items known as “aggregators” that allow you to take the statistics of one item and transfer them to another. So if the ultimate in-game sword is still desired for its strength, but you like the less powerful and lower level sword because it’s a cool sparkly blue, you can have it.

The aggregators work for all visible armor pieces and weapons. This little addition opens up a whole world of potential. The options for new players generated bragging rights and achievements open up to players not only wanting to have the most powerful gear but the coolest looking too. This plays into horizontal game play as well. Hours, days, or much more could be joyfully spent hunting down favored armor regardless of level.

Aggregators only take the APPEARANCE of an item.  IE, you can take a 1 handed sword and make it look like a 2 handed staff if you so choose.  You can make cloth armor look like plate, if you so choose.  It does NOT take the attributes of the item you are taking the appearance from.  IE, a plate chest piece has physical defense of 1200 and you want to make your cloth chest piece look like that plate armor chest piece, you can, but the cloth chest piece will retain the CLOTH attributes, it WILL NOT inherit the plate attributes.  ONLY the appearance of the item is changed, not the item itself.

 

* Putting the “Runes” Into Runes of Magic

Runes play a part in the story lore as well as game mechanics. RoM uses runes in professions as well as enhancing armor and weapon attributes. There is a wide variety of runes already in the game and most can also be added together or mixed to form new more powerful runes.

The main tool for this is the “Arcane Transmuter”. The amount of runes in combination with other armor and weapon enhancements offered in RoM gives players a lot to do. The Arcane Transmuter can seem a bit overwhelming when first starting to use it, but with a little practice players will quickly be upgrading their items through, not only runes that can be created, but also through enhancement jewels and tiering.

There are multiple parts here.....

Runes.... often times you will need to buy runes (from the auction house) or collect a substantial amount in order to make anything useful.  Even then, some runes are in the database but are disabled, yet runes of a higher tier (ie Hatred runes <% aggro increase for tanks> are craftable, but ONLY after buying a certain type of rune from the item shop when they are put on sale by frogster).  They are not always available.

Arcane Transmuter --- This is the only place you can create upgraded runes or add stats to your gear.  Each use takes 1 charge.  you are given 10 free charges upon reaching level 10 and completing the quest for it.  Beyond that, you MUST either pay diamonds/tokens to purchase more charges or win them from various minigames (which require the tokens you gain from completing daily quests).  So, if you plan on upgrading gear alot, you will need to be doing daily quests everyday and buying from the item shop.

* Fusion Stones

Just like many other subscriber based MMORPGs, weapons and armor can come in tiers. When found or dropped from mobs, tiers are based off the character level requirement. Through the use of fusion stones, you can raise an items tier, which in turn could allow it to accept more powerful runes and raises attributes.

* Enhancement Jewels

While fusion stones and runes take a little more understanding and time to figure out, there is another way to upgrade an item that is a bit easier to do. Enhancement Jewels can be purchased that you simply apply to an item to give it a + status. The jewels have a chance of success and failure which can downgrade any previous jewel enhancements or raise it still further.

* Disenchanting Items

Blank fusion stones can be used in a process where you wish to strip certain attributes off an item to later add to another item.

All these options for upgrading do tend to get boiled down into one “must-have” option for serious competitors but still leave plenty of different options based off amounts of time, work, and money required to upgrade regardless of whether your a hardcore endgamer, a very casual casual player, or anywhere in between.

 

Fusion stones, the OP failed to mention there are 2 types.  Random and pure.  Random fusion stones are ones purchased from an npc vendor and come with between 1-3 random attributes on it.  You can spend large amounts of gold trying to get fusion stones with the same attributes on all the stones you need.  (To upgrade any items you need 3 of these fusion stones).  Pure fusion stones are only available in level tier gift bags (one time only per character) or purchase from the item shops (diamonds/tokens).  There is no other way to acquire a pure fusion stone.  Pure fusion stones have no attributes on them and thus are more desirable.

Enhancement jewels -- The can be purchased from vendors like the random fusion stones and have a VERY low sucess rate (general agreement is about 1-2% sucess rate).  They can also be purchased from the item shops and usually have roughly a 40-50% sucess rate.  Failing can mean it will lower from a higher "+".  Using a jewel means you give the item a "+" which gives passive bonuses.  Failures can (and often does) mean lowering from say +3 to +2.  Each "+" gives a higher passive bonus.

Disenchating --- The OP is confused here.  There is a skill called Disenchating but it does not do as he claims.  The skill takes items and destroys the item and gives you back a random item (usually a gathering material or a low level rune for use).  What the OP is talking about is taking a stat from 1 piece of gear and placing it on a fusion stone so you can TRANSFER that stat to a different piece of gear.

Quests are also built out of these hubs. No taking a quest to go kill 10 boar out in the middle of nowhere that aren’t hurting anyone. Quests, as I mentioned are very story driven and this is also apparent in any sized hub anywhere in the game world. There’s large amounts of rationale, reason, and purpose for how the quests work and interact with the NPCs of any hub.

Really? Again?  Alot of quests are going to DIFFERENT zones to kill mobs of lower levels than you.  Others are just talking to other npcs, even more are run over there and give this item to (the guy standing right next to him) XXXX npc.  Some of the quests forward a good storyline, but most are there to provide you with xp/tp to level with.

What other RMT based MMORPG has a full range of merchandise tie-ins including posters, mugs, mouse pads, t-shirts, and more? Some other RMT companies have occasional “giveaways” to win these types of items on an exclusive basis, but it’s a fully implemented year round store for RoM. I think the fact Runewaker started all these merchandise tie-ins at such an early stage of RoM’s life adds a lot of potential to see many more tie-ins as the MMORPG ages.

And where did you find all these items?  You can not purchase them from the Frogster site, the game site or even in game.  As a long time player I have NEVER seen game related items for sale.  I have seen them as contest rewards.

 

It All Adds Up

I encourage anyone of any age or MMORPG background to try Runes of Magic. You will not be disappointed. Whether you’ve never played a Western subscriber based game, or never played an Asian RMT based game, you will find a lot of fun in RoM that improves upon both of these MMORPG business models, and play styles in many different ways.

These seemingly small changes are really not so small and show that the developers actually thought, and thought hard about the choices they made. RoM has many small changes, each that make a big difference, but also show skill and talent to be placed in the same game together providing the most enjoyable MMORPG experience since the early days of World of Warcraft. But I’m not solely comparing, because RoM has even transcended those times by pushing the envelope in offering an unprecedented amount of player options and large improvements over currently established game mechanics. Runewaker is exploring and braving vast unexplored terrain in a successful manner compared to Blizzard.

It is a lot of boasting to say all this, but looking closer at immense affects that even the seemingly smallest in game changes -like immediately being able to obtain a mount- have far reaching effects.

It’s enough to say that RoM has made a cornucopia of brilliantly fun changes and additions to the MMORPG genre, but each of those changes are like a pebble thrown into a lake creating a ripple affect that spreads out touching and playing off all the aspects of RoM.

Seemingly "small" changes included only days before "official release" was a COMPLETE redesign of the combat engine.  Some seriously game changing "nerfs" to gear months after it was implemented in game.  IE Scout nerf of patch 1816, the durability nerf, % mana usage (after 2 yrs of not having it), healer staves well after people had cleared content they came from.

Immediately obtaining a mount ---  Sure, 1 of 2 ways, purchase with real life cash or rent one for copious amounts of gold and very short durations.

Alot of the recent changes and the severe server instability lately has caused numerous players to leave after spending years playing this game.  I personally left after a server crash/rollback and server crash (2 seperate incidents in 2 days time) and it resulted in me losing multiple pieces of gear (just disappeared) and support telling me they couldn't do anything because I couldn't PROVE I owned it in the first place (even with screenshots of the items in question).

  Shooter-90

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9/08/10 1:09:03 AM#18
Originally posted by avgwhtguy069

If the programmers are the same people who worked on Eq, WoW and others, why then is the coding the worst by far of any MMO out there?  Past or present?  Wny with EVERY update or patch does something else break?

They're an independent developer that does not require funding from investors, I think. They rely on a loyal community and the team to maintain and bug test the game. Like any MMO, there are flaws to the game with every release. Especially in F2P spheres, these bugs are more transparent since some systems are always in beta to ensure quality gameplay. Example being the sieges because of lack of testing before its release, as a compromise they did release it in a patch and even at a certain time display as a "beta".

Really?  What content can a lvl 50+ and a lvl 5 player run together (other than a 1 hour per day bugged siege).  None.  Raiding?  Hmm, since they made a major change to the ONLY low level raidable instance, there is NO raidable content until you are level 50+.  "Horizontal game play"... lets talk about this.  There is only 1 way for you to get anywhere in this game and that is to level by completing quests.  Almost every quest in this game is level dependant.  You NEED to level in order to experience anything beyond the beginner zone, like every other game out there.  NOTHING special here.

Very true, however instances are suppose to be completed by a raid group. But since mostly low levels cannot go through the windmill instance without a mass murder, it's been deemed by the community as a level 20+ raid instance. Though it does seem dependent that questing will only progress the player, it doesn't really have to be like that. Sometimes offering your class to help other can benefit a lot more players than yourselves, the narcissistic view of the game is indeed to finish at the end as fast as you can (even purists take this ideal further by getting the best equipment possible). Though I don't think they ever said anything about a player of a low level player with players on a higher level, I do agree to the fact there should be fluidity in the levels. Though in this current structure, I doubt there are any that will facilitate this idea excluding cosmetic systems like the relationship system.

What options are you talking about?  The VERY limited audio/video options?  MOST options that players gain are from using 3rd party addons.  The game itself only has about 15-20 options the players can tweak themselves.   One example of this is chat.  Players can turn off every type of chat channel EXCEPT world chat, which by Frogsters own admission is a bug and is supposed to have a option to turn it off, yet doesn't.

Agreed, there are cosmetic options and I do sympathize that world chat should be able to be filtered and a "GM" chat should be enabled in case gamemasters do need to get people's attention. They might have a lot of bugs to fix so you might have to wait until it happens.

"Nothing is sold that cannot be obtained in-game by purists".  Hmm, wrong!  Permanant mounts for one.  There is NO PLACE in game you can acquire a permanant mount EXCEPT to BUY one from the item shop.

Either that or you can get one through an illegitimate player to player transaction.

4 different type of currency?  Let's discuss this....

Diamonds - MUST be paid for with REAL CASH (by someone).  Diamonds are ONLY usable in the item shop.

Or by surveys, but don't count on them to pay out.

Rubies - ARE ONLY ATTAINED FROM SPENDING DIAMONDS.  Rubies have their own item shop which is limited in the item available.

You can get them at a very low quantity using Phirius Tokens. At best 80:1 (Tokens:Ruby) if you buy Transport Runes.

Gold - Mobs DO NOT drop gold, so the only way to make gold is to complete quests or sell trash drops off dead mobs.

Actually in hindsight, you do get gold however it is an indirect drop where you have to sell the items you get. Usually profitable considering most monsters do drop runes that run for about 100-500 gold.

Phirius Tokens - ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FROM COMPLETING DAILY QUESTS and are NOT TRADABLE.  You can ONLY spend them in a 3rd type of item shop.

True, can't argue with that.

So, there may be 4 types of currency as you put it, but 3 of those 4 types can only be used in 1 place.

Actually there is a 5th plus bartering. You can use your Honor Points to buy stuff as well.

You couldn't be more wrong.  There is no place in game for you to earn diamonds.  Someone had to pay real money to buy diamonds.

You can illegitimately get diamonds by having someone gift you an item from the Diamond Shop so you indirectly get the item you want without obtaining diamonds.

This can be true but only if 1.  The player knew/had friends who spent real money and were then able to sell item shop items to him for gold; or 2.  Player spent copious amounts of time farming for trash drops to sell to vendors for gold.

Some actually craft some pretty nice items to sell on Auction House. However, the items are about level 50 and up.

What the OP doesn't tell you is that you are limited by character level or gold in order to acquire the materials to make the higher level craftable items.  You are also limited to a certain number of craft/gather skills above different level tiers (ie all tradeskills can be learned upto level 20, then 21-40 you have 6 available, 41-60 3 available, 61+ 1 available) and this includes the gathering skill you need to harvest materials.

You can gain your house by talking to the housemaid in the first city for free at level 1.  Horse rentals are 15 minutes for 300 gold or 2 hours for 3000 gold.  At level 10, you might have a little more than 3k gold total.

At start none of this really matters. When you become level 25, you might start to craft or you might start to use mounts depending on urgency.

Really?  I can't count the number of quests that are "go here and talk to so and so OR go here and kill x amount of this.  Same as most every other mmo out there.

True for every MMO; but without it, it would be a pretty boring game.

Often times the translations are utterly aparent.  Grammatical errors are abundant.  Alot of quests are chained between channels so that if you begin a quest that involves an npc moving to another location, and another person starts that same quest before yours completes, it will reset yours and you have to begin again.  Other quests can only be completed in certain channels, in/out of party, ect.  None of which is communcated to the player.

You spelled "apparent" wrong and "alot" is two words, last sentence is a sentence fragment, also the second sentence is a run on sentence. Beside from the errors, I have to disagree. Some quests really just push you into the next zone to force you to see what enemies you have to fight.

This is incorrect also.  The only part of the UI that is customizable is the hotbar.  You cannot move your minimap/chatboxes or anything else short of using a 3rd party addon.

You can change the size of the chat box. Therefore geometrically speaking, you did move the chat box to a larger size. Other than that, I do agree you need a 3rd party add-on to moves modules of your HUD.

Typically with most every major content update the LUA and other addon necessary files are altered rendering almost every addon un-usable until the addon author has a chance to go and patch it.  RoM doesn't work with addon devs to improve this, and lately made it HARDER for devs to create new addons.

Yes, this is probably one of the better features of RoM, it really isnt any different than some of the current games out there.  Your xp/tp debt is 70% of whatever you earn (from anything that gives xp/tp) until the debt is paid off.  You cannot change the % paid.  Tp (Talent points is also hindered by debt thus slowing the process you can level your skills).

Is this "meaningful pvp" the same pvp that allows players of ANY level to attack players of ANY OTHER level (ie level 60 attacks a level 15).   You can "seal" items to prevent them from dropping as loot, but this requires you to buy item shop items and are limited to using only 8 when you can wear upto about 16 pieces of gear.  These "reputation" points are cause for player grief later when you can not enter higher level cities in order to even collect quests to level.  Essentailly making it a ceiling to levelling if you have chosen to be the attacker in PvP.

Aggregators only take the APPEARANCE of an item.  IE, you can take a 1 handed sword and make it look like a 2 handed staff if you so choose.  You can make cloth armor look like plate, if you so choose.  It does NOT take the attributes of the item you are taking the appearance from.  IE, a plate chest piece has physical defense of 1200 and you want to make your cloth chest piece look like that plate armor chest piece, you can, but the cloth chest piece will retain the CLOTH attributes, it WILL NOT inherit the plate attributes.  ONLY the appearance of the item is changed, not the item itself.

All of the above I agree.

There are multiple parts here.....

Runes.... often times you will need to buy runes (from the auction house) or collect a substantial amount in order to make anything useful.  Even then, some runes are in the database but are disabled, yet runes of a higher tier (ie Hatred runes <% aggro increase for tanks> are craftable, but ONLY after buying a certain type of rune from the item shop when they are put on sale by frogster).  They are not always available.

Arcane Transmuter --- This is the only place you can create upgraded runes or add stats to your gear.  Each use takes 1 charge.  you are given 10 free charges upon reaching level 10 and completing the quest for it.  Beyond that, you MUST either pay diamonds/tokens to purchase more charges or win them from various minigames (which require the tokens you gain from completing daily quests).  So, if you plan on upgrading gear alot, you will need to be doing daily quests everyday and buying from the item shop.

Fusion stones, the OP failed to mention there are 2 types.  Random and pure.  Random fusion stones are ones purchased from an npc vendor and come with between 1-3 random attributes on it.  You can spend large amounts of gold trying to get fusion stones with the same attributes on all the stones you need.  (To upgrade any items you need 3 of these fusion stones).  Pure fusion stones are only available in level tier gift bags (one time only per character) or purchase from the item shops (diamonds/tokens).  There is no other way to acquire a pure fusion stone.  Pure fusion stones have no attributes on them and thus are more desirable.

Enhancement jewels -- The can be purchased from vendors like the random fusion stones and have a VERY low sucess rate (general agreement is about 1-2% sucess rate).  They can also be purchased from the item shops and usually have roughly a 40-50% sucess rate.  Failing can mean it will lower from a higher "+".  Using a jewel means you give the item a "+" which gives passive bonuses.  Failures can (and often does) mean lowering from say +3 to +2.  Each "+" gives a higher passive bonus.

Disenchating --- The OP is confused here.  There is a skill called Disenchating but it does not do as he claims.  The skill takes items and destroys the item and gives you back a random item (usually a gathering material or a low level rune for use).  What the OP is talking about is taking a stat from 1 piece of gear and placing it on a fusion stone so you can TRANSFER that stat to a different piece of gear.

Really? Again?  Alot of quests are going to DIFFERENT zones to kill mobs of lower levels than you.  Others are just talking to other npcs, even more are run over there and give this item to (the guy standing right next to him) XXXX npc.  Some of the quests forward a good storyline, but most are there to provide you with xp/tp to level with.

And where did you find all these items?  You can not purchase them from the Frogster site, the game site or even in game.  As a long time player I have NEVER seen game related items for sale.  I have seen them as contest rewards.

Seemingly "small" changes included only days before "official release" was a COMPLETE redesign of the combat engine.  Some seriously game changing "nerfs" to gear months after it was implemented in game.  IE Scout nerf of patch 1816, the durability nerf, % mana usage (after 2 yrs of not having it), healer staves well after people had cleared content they came from.

All of the above I agree.

Immediately obtaining a mount ---  Sure, 1 of 2 ways, purchase with real life cash or rent one for copious amounts of gold and very short durations.

I mention one other way to get them, but it's very illegitimate.

Alot of the recent changes and the severe server instability lately has caused numerous players to leave after spending years playing this game.  I personally left after a server crash/rollback and server crash (2 seperate incidents in 2 days time) and it resulted in me losing multiple pieces of gear (just disappeared) and support telling me they couldn't do anything because I couldn't PROVE I owned it in the first place (even with screenshots of the items in question).

Server stability on Govinda is fine. Likely the regional connection is at fault.

  b.alex

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I am probably the only civil person on the internet.

9/08/10 1:20:32 AM#19

This post is just an advertisement, I`m surprised that people are responding to it at all lol. Lots of people will be clicking the RoM icon to investigate... Don`t take offense... I think its a good medium to use on a low budget.

  Shooter-90

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Posts: 100

9/16/10 3:19:19 PM#20
Originally posted by b.alex

This post is just an advertisement, I`m surprised that people are responding to it at all lol. Lots of people will be clicking the RoM icon to investigate... Don`t take offense... I think its a good medium to use on a low budget.

Beats playing World Of Warcraft for about 12 bucks a month. Downside being the cash shop, but I'm just there to just have a good time.