So they added or going to be adding this new effect when you die from pvp or mobs. Its called Fear of Death and its a debuff you get from death. The worst part is this effect stays for 45min and also costs so much stats lost you can't even play the game its that bad.

There is 2 ways to get rid of it. 1) pay gold and blow a massive chunk and I mean worse then a WoW repair bill. The other and reason the effect is in is a special item mall item to remove it.

I understand the company needs to make money but they told us nothing to alter the game.. I think that counts and if that does not count what about the other items like perfumes and such that increase your stats.. Wait... So the only people who win at PVP are the item mall users....

I want to buy items but I will not be buying from a game that forces you to buy things like buffs and lets call it pay per hour playing...

They broke their word and now I post this hoping they will reconsider since they don't read their own forums.

Dec interview:

MMORPG.com:

What will the item mall be like in the game? Will items impact game play?
Vincent Douvier:

Allods Online was developed by Astrum Nival from the very early stages to be Free to Play. Hence, the Allods Shop was not a layer added later in the game. There was a team from the beginning of development in charge of taking care of the shop, and to make sure that it would not alter game play.

Astrum Nival is the leading developer of Free to Play MMORPGs in Russia as well as the leading publisher of Free to Play MMORPG games. Gala Networks Europe is the leading publisher of Free to Play MMORPGs in Europe. With the experience of those two companies in the field, players can rest assured; the Allods Shop will be fine-tuned to its best.

I have now been perm banned for my thread here and blog post of fear of death.

http://kanehart.com/2010/01/31/allods-online-permanently-banned-for-talking-about-dear-of-death/

45 minutes? are you kidding me? the most I've had this penalty on for is 45 seconds.

 yea i heard about this.. situation... wont be playing this game (was really looking forward to it) till they remove this.

edit: as far as i know this debuff aint present in the english version (yet) but till i know for sure it wont be coming or will be removed later im not touching this game.

Originally posted by deaddeath

45 minutes? are you kidding me? the most I've had this penalty on for is 45 seconds.

This effect is not in yet. Comes in patch 5 so yeah not yet hehe. Rus server lost so many people it really sucks and in fact if you like more info there is a massive post maybe the biggest one on the forums:

32+ pages:

http://allods-forum.gpotato.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5690

It doesn't last for 45 mins..and there's several in game ways to make its effect which scales I believe by level even less or not appear at all.  Its called Praying to your God using perfume.  Hell my god pretty much vanishes the effect almost immediately.

This is a direct quote from the patch notes. Boo Hoo there's a Small lil Death Penalty you can remove using perfume which can be bought at the servants of light.  Damn for realz? Guess you should think before you act so you don't die over and over and over.  This game isn't some instant happy lalllalala I can die all I want WoW game.  It has some consequence but hell its easy as hell to get rid of it.

Changed the death mechanics. Increased the time spent in Purgatory for characters above level 15. The time spent in Purgatory does not increase when a character dies multiple times. After leaving Purgatory a character will receive the “Fear of Death” effect. This effect lowers a character’s offensive stats by 25%. Each time a character dies, they will receive another Fear of Death effect that can stack up to 4 times. The effect duration changes based on the character’s level. In order to remove this effect, a player needs to talk to a Servant of the Light and get their blessing. The effect can also be removed using perfume
 

Im still wondering how much control gpotato has over the game, or if they have to include everything that is in the Russian version. Im hoping this death penalty isnt added in, as being forced to use a cash shop will instantly turn me away from any f2p. I understand they need to make money obviously, but there are better ways of doing it as proved in other games.

Just as big an issue is that they also took away our open PvP. :(

We all were having SO much fun in Allods until the latest patch.

Originally posted by banthis

It doesn't last for 45 mins..and there's several in game ways to make its effect which scales I believe by level even less or not appear at all.  Its called Praying to your God using perfume.  Hell my god pretty much vanishes the effect almost immediately.

Buddy at 40 it's like 45min and massive stats blow and costs like 3.5gold. It sounds like your working for them. Were making this post not because we hate the game but because we love it and want to save it.

Your like meh it's not bad well please show us your level 40 on the Rus server and you enjoying your self.

Their population had dropped by like half and some more because they added this FoD patch in.

Originally posted by banthis

It doesn't last for 45 mins..and there's several in game ways to make its effect which scales I believe by level even less or not appear at all.  Its called Praying to your God using perfume.  Hell my god pretty much vanishes the effect almost immediately.

This is a direct quote from the patch notes. Boo Hoo there's a Small lil Death Penalty you can remove using perfume which can be bought at the servants of light.  Damn for realz? Guess you should think before you act so you don't die over and over and over.  This game isn't some instant happy lalllalala I can die all I want WoW game.  It has some consequence but hell its easy as hell to get rid of it.

Changed the death mechanics. Increased the time spent in Purgatory for characters above level 15. The time spent in Purgatory does not increase when a character dies multiple times. After leaving Purgatory a character will receive the “Fear of Death” effect. This effect lowers a character’s offensive stats by 25%. Each time a character dies, they will receive another Fear of Death effect that can stack up to 4 times. The effect duration changes based on the character’s level. In order to remove this effect, a player needs to talk to a Servant of the Light and get their blessing. The effect can also be removed using perfume
 

well according to the OP that will cost a huge amount of money

The OP is lying.    

As for the pvp issue they do need a way to keep the lvl 40s from camp ganking the lvl 20s but ...I agree the flagging was the cheap way out and not a real solution...lets hope the outcry eventually reaches their ears and they go to more of a lvl base manuever were lvl 40s get no pvp kill credit for killing people far below their level.   PvP should be about challenge not ganking for points.

Originally posted by Xerith

Im still wondering how much control gpotato has over the game, or if they have to include everything that is in the Russian version. Im hoping this death penalty isnt added in, as being forced to use a cash shop will instantly turn me away from any f2p. I understand they need to make money obviously, but there are better ways of doing it as proved in other games.

It should not be added in but they said it was via the patch notes. the EU site said there adding it in also but accepting feedback and they said there removing cashshop zone chat item or whatever and will just replace it later with maybe a special color for zone chat...

But the FoD patch is still slated to be in the game on wed.

Originally posted by misterdurp

Originally posted by banthis

It doesn't last for 45 mins..and there's several in game ways to make its effect which scales I believe by level even less or not appear at all.  Its called Praying to your God using perfume.  Hell my god pretty much vanishes the effect almost immediately.

This is a direct quote from the patch notes. Boo Hoo there's a Small lil Death Penalty you can remove using perfume which can be bought at the servants of light.  Damn for realz? Guess you should think before you act so you don't die over and over and over.  This game isn't some instant happy lalllalala I can die all I want WoW game.  It has some consequence but hell its easy as hell to get rid of it.

Changed the death mechanics. Increased the time spent in Purgatory for characters above level 15. The time spent in Purgatory does not increase when a character dies multiple times. After leaving Purgatory a character will receive the “Fear of Death” effect. This effect lowers a character’s offensive stats by 25%. Each time a character dies, they will receive another Fear of Death effect that can stack up to 4 times. The effect duration changes based on the character’s level. In order to remove this effect, a player needs to talk to a Servant of the Light and get their blessing. The effect can also be removed using perfume
 

well according to the OP that will cost a huge amount of money

Well i'll say it again a a lvl 18 he's lying.   You get a quest at lvl 15 that gets you around 10 - 20 perfumes for free and nothing costs that much off the Vendor I've seen the prices myself.   The effect does not last 45 mins and unless your a really incompentent player your not going to die that often for it to stack.    Hell the god I pray to automaticlaly removes the effect when I rezz so I'm never affected by it, it does the same for my friend and she has a different god.

I'm not lying and that is also harassment on mmorpg forums that I don't accept.

Basic explanation of Fear of Death:

-You get it from PvP, and PvE/raids/instances.

-It reduces your offensive (finesse, int, str, etc.) stats by 25%. It can stack up to 4 times.

-The duration is 45 minutes at lvl 40 (I'm not sure about this one, but it's a ridiculously long amount of time like that).

You can get immunity to it by buying cash shop perfumes (or doing the daily quests for them).

You can remove it by buying a blessing from a servant of the light.

No, it is nothing like a minor sickness. It's gamebreaking.

Your clearly getting it mixed up with the other effect.

Originally posted by kanechart

Originally posted by Xerith

Im still wondering how much control gpotato has over the game, or if they have to include everything that is in the Russian version. Im hoping this death penalty isnt added in, as being forced to use a cash shop will instantly turn me away from any f2p. I understand they need to make money obviously, but there are better ways of doing it as proved in other games.

 

It should not be added in but they said it was via the patch notes. the EU site said there adding it in also but accepting feedback and they said there removing cashshop zone chat item or whatever and will just replace it later with maybe a special color for zone chat...

 

But the FoD patch is still slated to be in the game on wed.

This again is not true.  The items for chat are for World Spamming as in Yelling across the world not just the zone.  Its to allow people to call out to a large area but not abuse it for selling Gold, items etc.    The way the game chat works now is how it'll work live too otherwise they'd be giving them out for free to test chat like they did Water of Life / Death.

Originally posted by banthis

Well i'll say it again a a lvl 18 he's lying.   You get a quest at lvl 15 that gets you around 10 - 20 perfumes for free and nothing costs that much off the Vendor I've seen the prices myself.   The effect does not last 45 mins and unless your a really incompentent player your not going to die that often for it to stack.    Hell the god I pray to automaticlaly removes the effect when I rezz so I'm never affected by it, it does the same for my friend and she has a different god.

Confirmed, the OP honestly has no idea what he is talking about.

Another thread jam-packed with misinformation, that serves no purpose other than taking up space on the forums.

Originally posted by kanechart

I'm not lying and that is also harassment on mmorpg forums that I don't accept.

 

Basic explanation of Fear of Death:

-You get it from PvP, and PvE/raids/instances.

-It reduces your offensive (finesse, int, str, etc.) stats by 25%. It can stack up to 4 times.

-The duration is 45 minutes at lvl 40 (I'm not sure about this one, but it's a ridiculously long amount of time like that).

 

You can get immunity to it by buying cash shop perfumes (or doing the daily quests for them).

 

You can remove it by buying a blessing from a servant of the light.

 

No, it is nothing like a minor sickness. It's gamebreaking.

 

 

Your clearly getting it mixed up with the other effect.

I've got the latest Patch Notes from the US version and it does not last 45 mins as I've experienced it with and without the perfume it is also not a cash shop mechanic unless you want to buy a HUGE batch and expect to die alot.    I'm also not harrassing since I've seen the patch notes, played it and im level 18 with in perfect range for this horrorific effect to take place and its absolutely not as you advertise it hence you are lying or just have no idea and are speculating which is utterly ridiculous.      Unless you've experienced and have visual proof it lasts 45 mins and the Perfume is expensive I suggest you take your words and eat them.   I've got perfume that I got for free and some I bought cheep and I've also died a couple of times at lvl 18 and its never hurt me.    And yes the Effect is already LIVE on the US servers as of Patch 5 that just happened a few days ago.

Now if you die 4 times in a row and its STACK lasts up to 45 mins perhaps you should rethink your strategy on playing by yourself and find a group this is a group game.

Dude this is on the Rus server not the US server.

http://forum.allods.ru/showthread.php?t=47120

Originally posted by banthis

Now if you die 4 times in a row and its STACK lasts up to 45 mins perhaps you should rethink your strategy on playing by yourself and find a group this is a group game.

Exactly!

Anyways, as stated by myself and Banthis previously, the OP is not accurate at all and this debuff is easily dealt with and far from anything even resembling gamebreaking.

To call it such is a gross exaggeration and is completely false.

The OP is not lying I also play this game and have stopped playing it due to this.  There are two seperate penalties to dying.  One is the time you must spend in purgatory (this has always been in) and you can spend myrah (sp on that) to shorten that time.  The new affect is this Fear of Death debuff that does exactly what the OP stated and for as long as he stated at lvl 40.

This FoD debuff I believe only starts affecting characters at lvl 15 and scales in time with lvl so of course a lvl 18 won't wait long; probably about a 1 minute but by the 30's it creeps up into 10-30 min and so on till max.

The only way to remove this FoD debuff is by a servant of light (which are not located in dungeons so GL on a wipe and costs a hefty sum) or by perfumes from the CS.  You get one quest at lvl 15 that gives you 20 and one quest at 40 that gives you one and takes about 30 min to do and these pefumes only last for 30 min.

And yes you will run out of money and yes you will get sick of being forced into grinding for cash and running to find a Servant of Light because not every high lvl zone even has one.

The US server is a head of the gpotato EU server.    BTW I just flung myself off the allod without praying to my god and at lvl 18 the debuff lasts exactly 45 SECONDS.    So you op have no clue what your talking about.     So assuming that at lvl 18 if I die 4 times in a row the debuff without perfume will last up to at most 4 mins which for a death penalty is not that bad and its also teaching you a lesson to not just throw yourself at death and to pray to your god.  Hell I have 18 of those perfumes out of the 20 that I received 3 levels ago.   In PVP it'll give me something more to think about for sure and since the patch states they will have them in game and we know they're on the store..its kinda obvious..THis is a FREE TO PLAY GAME.    Cash Shop games always have an angle to get you to pay.   Right now they have Backpacks and Perfume and Water of Life/Death boo hoo..thats relatively small compared to some games.

45 Mins is a Lie unless your a terrible player and you like alot of punishment.    If you get the Effect wait until it wears off to avoid the stacking.

For the first time in my life I'm going to say this....Learn 2 Play.

Guys, guys, OP is correct. The Fear of Death stat loss penalty is around 50 minutes at level 40. That also stacks and costs 3.5 gold to remove at that level as well. The penalty starts at level 16, but by the time you get to level 40 the FoD lasts for around 50 minutes and costs that much.

Check out the Allods forums for the info. The patch notes don't tell you everything.
http://allods-forum.gpotato.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5690&sid=5d1cb8d113716a94a3f1c04f5f248fe3

You guys are amazing...

THE DEATH PEN SCALES WITH LVL.  Hopefully you can read that now.  It does remove 25% of your stats and can stack four times, and I just checked my lvl 40 guy it lasts for exactly for 51 minutes on the first death!

The perfume quest is a ONE TIME quest at lvl 15 to give you 20 otherwise one quest at lvl 40 to give you one and the quest takes 30 min to do.  With the perfumes lasting 30 min you tell me how much pvp you will do at max lvl (40).

For another further arguements why don't you guys just check out the actual forums for the game?

http://allods-forum.gpotato.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5690

Originally posted by Incubus

You guys are amazing...

THE DEATH PEN SCALES WITH LVL.  Hopefully you can read that now.  It does remove 25% of your stats and can stack four times, and I just checked my lvl 40 guy it lasts for exactly for 51 minutes on the first death!

The perfume quest is a ONE TIME quest at lvl 15 to give you 20 otherwise one quest at lvl 40 to give you one and the quest takes 30 min to do.  With the perfumes lasting 30 min you tell me how much pvp you will do at max lvl (40).

For another further arguements why don't you guys just check out the actual forums for the game?

http://allods-forum.gpotato.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5690

I posted that already no one cared but anyways I guess I'm use to people trusting other people lol. I find these forums are getting worse over time. I think you gotta spend more time proving the issue that everyone already knows to the 3 people who don't then you do about making the point :(

Anyways the point of this was to make it an issue and stand out.

Well your OP never stated 45min was at level 40 you said it after people pointed it out.

But yeah hope they do something about it plus a death penalty working also in pvp is a bit lame imo and I'm one that hates to pvp.

http://allodsfan.com/2010/01/fear-of-death/

 also my blog now lol

http://kanehart.com/2010/01/31/allods-online-do-you-fear-of-death/