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1/06/10 11:39:41 PM#121

Darkfall online should be on the list as well. It may be not the greatest one, like EVE which is first place no doubt, Darkfall is very much about pvp and its good, harsh, adrenalin experience.



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1/07/10 12:21:18 AM#122

Number 2, darkfall online

Number 1, Even online


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1/07/10 12:29:38 AM#123

Originally posted by valun
What about shadowbane, DAoC and AO:Notum Wars? 


I was up with the list until I saw Shadowbane passed over for WAR?!

AFAIK, Shadowbane was one of the first MMOs to have massive world driven PvP. And by world drive I mean world driven, there was like no point to PvE other than to get your toon to max level and gear, after that you were in pvp-bliss. You fought, took control of or defended sections of terrority where your guild or alliance of guilds (nations) built massive cities, and you could plan your city. Want more defense at the expense of space and less NPC vendors? Go for it. Want more NPC guards and less physical defense? Go for it. Massive battles of laying siege to cities, hundreds of trebuchets firing off flaming boulders at city walls whilst the enemy comes pouring over the side of a hill..

It was the perfect MMO. Sure it didn't have 100% loot like DF or UO but it was pretty close. And the class/race system was the BEST I saw, ever. Why?

You had a shit ton of combos. Want a big meaty Minotaur melee? Make it. How about a human thief? Make it. Human Mage? Go for it. Dwarf priest? Suuuure. And like every build had POTENTIAL. Sure there were cookie cutter specs, but you had room to experiment, come up with something different and come to find out it could still work pretty good in pvp.

The entire servers were ran by guild politics too. Who controlled what, who took over what. It truly was live by the sword die by the sword style of playing, no gm's, no rules (other than obviously no hacking), you couldnt go crying to a GM if someone was spawn camping you or griefing you. IT WAS ENCOURAGED

And yea, it had some bugs and issues but even after the game went free, they were still ironing out bugs, fixing stuff and even adding to the game. Sadly, Ubisoft had to pull the plug :(

Heres to hoping Stray Bullet Games (were a lot of the developers of Shadowbanes dev team Wolfpack have formed) comes up with their next great pvp mmo


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1/07/10 12:36:54 AM#124
Originally posted by Nostromo21

Just a couple things Bill:

1. EVE does NOT run on a single server, certainly not physical & not logical in practice either (that's why you zone from system to system). It's about as single-server as GW & I prefer the way that handles 'zones' much better anyway (districts + international servers where you can all meet if you so choose).
2. the correct quote, if people must quote the Bible, is "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil".

Your "WOW!" example for EVE is also the best example of what a sociopathic mmo with very little real consequence for your crimes is like. Red-headed stepchildren running around ganking the weaker players with impunity. Yeah, sure, call us carebears, whatever. EVE is not the best, but rather the WORST example of how a mmo should handle its PvP. Just a whole lot of asshats trying to ruin everyone else's day (if you're in the 5% minority trying to just play an empire building game with some modicum of 'honour', I obviously don't mean you, but my apologies anyway. Good luck with the crushing disappointment when you realise just what EVE is & you leave with the taste of skunk in your mouth :). Game over.


In terms of how wide spread PvP affects the Eve universe. Its #1. I would also have it as #1 for all of it's complexity and teamwork required.

As for your #1 point, they say it does. Hard to imagine, I too have my doubts, but there is no solid proof to say against it. Its a bunch of nodes working together to produce one ongoing server or something like that. Although, What -is- true is that what you do may affect others several systems/zones/whateveryoucallit away. Especially the market. :) kekeke ...unless your a teeny tiny miner who logs in for 1 hour each day or a high sec("Safe" Zone) mission grinder. Eww. (Although I am quite annoyed at the amount of lag that has risen from the new expansion, hope it gets fixed. Soon.)

As for your #2. The only good side of your post(not the argument though...), even if your being picky. Good catch to correct the saying to where it's origin came from. Although hes probably just quoting the colloquial term we all would know (Silly masses. Stop catering to them and go learn yourselves a book :D *sarcasm off*)

As for your "Lol @ WOW example". There is no way he could know of every little PvP occurance going on in Eve... That would be like summing up everything that happens in DAoC, Darkfall, or Ultima with a small short paragraph people wont tl;dr (impossible). He chose one of the largest "backstabs" ever done in the game (hell...It even got news coverage XD) as an example. (Albeit a good example for the general mass because of it's publicity, not a good example for the every day of Eve.) Anything else would be too minor or would experience rattling Eve jargon many wouldn't understand without crappy explanations)

Still, nothing in your argument about PvP. Just a bunch of whining, cheap shots and slight racism. (in-before-welcome-to-the-internet!) Sorry dude :P


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1/07/10 2:57:20 AM#125

 People should be posting their own personal top 5 in this thread instead of whining.  

5. Aion

4. Age of Conan

3. World of Warcraft

2. Dark Age of Camelot

1. Lineage 2



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1/07/10 3:28:03 AM#126
Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Number 2, darkfall online

Number 1, Even online



No, it's not fixed. It's YOUR personal opinion.


As my personal opinion would still have #1 EVE, even though I've stopped playing, but I know how big it is. And my #2 would still be DAoC because it was, and still is monumental unrivalved fantasy fun.

 One thing I was/am baffled about is WAR being there. On paper it might make it in to the top 5, but it certainly fails to step up in reality.

Again, personal opinion.


Oh and, die treehuggers!


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1/07/10 3:32:26 AM#127

Sure is a lot of complaining about Warhammer in this list. It was my 2nd most enjoyable pvp experience, right after Guild Wars.


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1/07/10 3:46:57 AM#128
Originally posted by Varny
Originally posted by uncletoma

I agree with some games, i cannot do it with other but i'm really astonished about 5th position: World of Farmercraft? This is not a true PvP or RvR game, it's only a PvE title with some PvP servers where people doesn't do free PvP. If you really like PvP there are a lot of games better than WoW (one of my preferred is a F2P game: RF Online: Three realms, a lot of free RvRvR zones - all mid/high lvls zones are RvRvR and a crap reason in order to do PvP /RvRvR:  central mine And, yes, a lot of fun).

And my number one is still DAoC (EVE is great, but too hard to play for a newbie).


I've played every mmorpg out there and WoW is the only one to have fun combat.

Highly doubt that, sorry bub. PvP in WoW is just far too limited compared to all the other games listed so far. 


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1/07/10 4:09:48 AM#129

 Here is my own personall list based on games i have played.

1. EvE online - its main focuss is on  all forms of pvp be it 1v1 1v10 1000v1000 or even 1vmarket. Also this is the most developed pvp mmo with 6 years of content and treaking and ballancing. and best of all a newbie could expect to compete very quickly. And being on a SINGLE node based server means you cant hide your past as well [ so if you are a ganker and guild thief for example you will be found out if your guild leader checks up on your past via the employment history tab].

2. RF Online - not completly a pvp focussed game it did need you to pve in order to compete in pvp. It does however have a nice and fun risk free pvp system with effects on the wider world.

3. DAOC - a bit of a classic here need i say more?

4. Neocron - now i personally hate this game but it was pvp based. also your Avatars stats was not as big an issue as can be found in level based games, it had factions and it had a consiquence to death.

5. Darkfall - it is still undeveloped the graphics and animation is average at best. they have billing problems and it has a problem with its communit. is a pvp foccused game [probably more due to dev resources than by design] with player made factions with cities. Sadly tho its skill system is flawed [eve tried the same system where you leveled skills by using them but it was to easy to abuse].


Some herethat were mentioned but not on my list and why.

Shadowbane - True it had pvp but it no longer exists.

WoW - great pve focussed game easy to get into but its pvp was an afterthought and it shows [still who knows this may one day get fixed].

Guildwars - not a MMORPG as ITS stated by the games devs its a CORPG. and this is a list of MMO'S


Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

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1/07/10 4:11:29 AM#130

lol, guess people haven't tried the new WoW Battlegrounds with mounted tanks and other cool stuff. And Alterac Valley is fun as hell. There is a lot of PvP in WoW that comes in different forms. What Darkfall has to offer? A possible gank right at the beginning and a barren boring world that has PvP once in a  blue moon.


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1/07/10 4:16:47 AM#131

lol you writers at really shouldnt bother writing lists. It always ends up with what we have here, pages and pages of people chest beating about why their favourite game isnt on the list.


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1/07/10 4:19:20 AM#132

LMAO!!! Warhammer, WoW? hahaha...


Top 5 pvp Game.

1: Asheron's Call.

2: Dark Age of camelot

3: Shadowbane

4: Mortal Online ( yet im in beta!)

5: Darkfall.


Top 10..

6: Ultima Online

7: Everquest ( Rallos Zek server)

8: Age of Conan

9: WoW

10: Lord of the ring Online/ Warhammer


It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P



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1/07/10 4:27:59 AM#133
Originally posted by bingo69


It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P



I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.

Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.


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1/07/10 5:07:41 AM#134
Originally posted by arenasb
Originally posted by bingo69


It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P



I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.

Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.


Dan Quayle has opinions too. It's fine, as long as all of his articles are clearly signed with "Dan Quayle", so everyone knows the value to give to the article and to his list of the 5 best laws in the USA "by Dan Quayle".


Maybe it's time to look for other valuable mmo sites. Anyone has a link to share ?


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1/07/10 5:35:28 AM#135

This list is utter bullshit,   eve on number one? and no darkfall...  i don't even play darkfall ( i used to) but you don't need to pla darkfall to know that its one of the best PVP MMO's... -.-'


the list FAILS


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1/07/10 5:48:16 AM#136
Originally posted by arenasb
Originally posted by bingo69


It show that the one who posted the top 5 really had no idea of what pvp is :P



I know right? I mean how dare he share his opinion on what his top pvp games and what he enjoyed playing the most. In fact there should be no articles at all on this website or any other gaming site because they are all opinions.

Look chief, not everybody has the same preferences as you do. It's amazing people get so bent out of shape when someone doesn't share their opinion.


Lmao, sarcasm much huh it doesn;t change the fact the op didn't know what he was talking about or really had no taste in pvp game. The fact UO is in and not asheron call, there's something wrong already.


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1/07/10 5:48:51 AM#137

I looks like you can't have a discussion about pvp without all the Darkfall fanboy nutbars coming out to take a whack at you if you don't proclaim it the king of kings and bow down to their God King Tasos.  This is whats called an opinion piece.  The OP's opinion may be different than others and more than likely he never played DF or Shadowbane or whatever else.  Kind of hard, not to mention dishonest, to say such and such game has the best pvp if he never played the game.

My top 5 would be:

1. Pre-nge swg, primarily playing as a BH and killing Jedi, I liked the 1v1, non-zerg aspect of it.

2. EVE

3. Pre-BC WoW

4. Planetside

5. Hmmm...can't think of a 5th, the rest of the mmo's I've played, LOTRO/D&D Online/WAR/ etc., have had pretty crappy pvp.


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1/07/10 5:51:47 AM#138

 really supprised that darkfall was'nt there and that WoW was 


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1/07/10 6:14:47 AM#139

PvP list with WoW in it? Ummm ...I'll have what he's drinking. IMO... And I play all five throughout the year.

5. Planetside
4. EvE
3. Guild Wars
2. Shadowbane
1. DAoC


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1/07/10 6:36:08 AM#140

I used to love world PvP in WoW. There used to actually be people grouping together to raid against towns of the other faction, now you are lucky if you can find a group to get the achievement for killing the opposing factions leaders.

Now you hop in and out of battlegrounds or arenas if you want to PvP.

Sure, you could always go around ganking people who are trying to level but that's not PvP, its harassment at best and boring at worst.

WoW killed off their PvP as far as I'm concerned when they introduced BG's, arenas, and the honor system.

They should only have gotten an honorary mention at most.

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