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  Kyleran

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1/06/10 3:31:21 PM#61

Sigh, no one reads I guess, from the OP:

"Keep in mind that this list is my own, and your mileage may vary, but here then are my top five PvP MMOs."

Note, it is not the offcial MMORPG Top 5 PVP games list, he doesn't say he's played every PVP game out there, so maybe he didn't experience Shadowbane or Planetside. (I missed the latter one)

This is his opinion, and like another poster said, some PVP games are better at one thing (full loot, FFA combat) vs a more controlled, balanced PVP environment (i.e. WOW arenas and BG's)

We all have our preferences on how we like our PVP, and none of us would ever come up with the same top 5 PVP game list.

Myself, I would have left WAR off, but I'm sure there's many WAR players who would disagree with my choice.

But of course, since the OP said EVE was #!1, I'm in complete agreement with him. 

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  Zorvan01

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1/06/10 3:53:41 PM#62
Originally posted by augustgrace

No Shadowbane?  The game didn't have much else to offer, but it did do pvp very well.


 

It also doesn't exist anymore. Probably why it's not there, you think?


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  the_RK

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1/06/10 4:01:55 PM#63

Not a bad list in my opinion, but still i'm very suprised that Guild Wars isn't on the list, well of course in Guild Wars it's not about the gear or numbers you have, but the skill so it would become also an odd one in the list.

  GrayGhost79

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1/06/10 4:05:36 PM#64
Originally posted by Kyleran

Sigh, no one reads I guess, from the OP:

"Keep in mind that this list is my own, and your mileage may vary, but here then are my top five PvP MMOs."

Note, it is not the offcial MMORPG Top 5 PVP games list, he doesn't say he's played every PVP game out there, so maybe he didn't experience Shadowbane or Planetside. (I missed the latter one)

This is his opinion, and like another poster said, some PVP games are better at one thing (full loot, FFA combat) vs a more controlled, balanced PVP environment (i.e. WOW arenas and BG's)

We all have our preferences on how we like our PVP, and none of us would ever come up with the same top 5 PVP game list.

Myself, I would have left WAR off, but I'm sure there's many WAR players who would disagree with my choice.

But of course, since the OP said EVE was #!1, I'm in complete agreement with him. 

 

Yeah I read that, if he had put it in the title of the article it would have been better received. Instead he stuck in inside the article and wrote the title to read "The Top 5 PvP MMO's" which does over ride any disclaimer inside the article considering it should be a known fact that the majority will read the title then skim through the rest of the article. 

 

A better received title would have been "My Top 5 PvP MMO's" or something similar. 

 

  dadown

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1/06/10 4:09:45 PM#65

I'm surprised that there has been no mention of Darktide on AC; a classic open pvp world. Not that I played it much, but it the type of pvp that many are always clammoring for.  Its funny how those that are always begging for *real* pvp, don't continue to support a game that provides it after all the easy-to-kill players have been driven off. Its no wonder that there aren't that many pvp only mmos that survive.

 

  Thzlol

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1/06/10 4:10:42 PM#66

 Not a bad list.  Obviously there will be some people who had an amazing experience in games that haven't been listed such as darkfall and aoc, but I don't think it discounts the relevance of the writer's top 5.  Honestly, for that "type" of gameplay, the FPS Pirates, Vikings and Knights blows it away in every aspect except the fact you don't have to level up or anything.

 

And, I'm one of the people who don't believe WoW is a "great" pvp game however, it has international tournaments -- so it'd be absolutely retarded not to include it.  And as dumbed down the overrall pvp is in it, the small scale arena matches are great and the fluidity is unmatched.

  User Deleted
1/06/10 4:13:31 PM#67

Funny list!  This was definitely not written by any PvPer that I've ever known.

 

Ken

 

  Yennik

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1/06/10 4:14:26 PM#68

how the heck could you not have planetside on the list??   heck how can it not be #1 or #2.  It was/is a great game and it's all PvP, with epic scale battles.

I need a new MMOG

  Kasmos

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1/06/10 4:23:31 PM#69

Nice article OP, although I disagree for the most part with your list.

I would certainly not have WAR on there as I find the PvP in that game horrible, and WoW only had "good" PvP back before Battlegrounds came out.

Ultima Online - absolutely

Dark Age of Camelot - absolutely

EvE Online - probably yes

 

However, I think you're missing some very important ones: Shadowbane, Planetside, and in my opinion the MMO with the best PvP by far: Darkfall.

 

Either way, we're entitled to our opinions and you have yours, so I'll have to respectfully disagree.

  trojan99

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1/06/10 4:26:35 PM#70

LOL, while i know you clearly stated that this is your list and my mileage may vary, i have never before been unable to find one in a list that i could agree with.

 

wow, lol, and i cant stop loling. nub mmo nub pvp,  nub nub nub. it is shameful that this game still gets press of any kind and i avoid grouping with ppl in other games who make it known that they have played this one. those who state proudly tht they ruled in wow are extra fail when they come play competitive pvp games. this game is a marketing success, not a gameplay success. i dont hate blizzard, i think its great that they introduced millions to online gameplay. but this is not for gamers.

warhammer...really?

ultima online? i have more fun playing ultima's 1-6 [and i actually still do when i feel nostalgic about stealing goods from behind npc vendors and getting greedy to the point the guards come and pwn me] than i ever did in this online adaptation

daoc, cough, excuse me i just threw up in my mouth. i had a fun 30 minutes in daoc one day

eve online...while i dont especially hate anything about eve, its pvp didnt really engage me, nor the rest of the game for that matter.

your mention of UO being your first leads me to assume u've been around the mmo block a few times so it saddens me that these were your choices

  Locien

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1/06/10 4:30:19 PM#71

The only game on the list that should actually be there is EvE online. I can't believe there's no mentioning of L2 and Darkfall either.

  Yamota

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1/06/10 4:38:27 PM#72

Asherons Call 1 on the Darktide server was the best FFA PvP experience in any MMORPG, period. The fact that you havent got that on your list shows that you are fairly new to PvP in MMORPGs.

Also, Eve may be a good FFA PvP game but I did alot more PvP in WAR than I do in Eve, and I live in 0.0 space. Reason? The death penalty in the game is so high that the game is more about ganking than just straight up PvP. Rarely do you get even remotely even fights or fights where both parties actually want to fight. So it is very bad to encourage new people that likes to do PvP in MMORPGs to Eve, the game is only for the nische people of the PvP crowd. Mostly the ones that likes extreme death penalties and assymetrical warfare (i.e. uneven fights).

  Zinderin

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1/06/10 5:00:14 PM#73

I am fine with the list ... except, Warhammer ... its doesn't belong anywhere remotely close to the top five.   And I speak as someone who waited years for that game, beta'd it, and hung in there with it for 9 grueling months.   Mythic totally dropped the ball with that game, and are incapable, or unwilling to save it.

They should have just remade DAoC with a new engine and updated graphics, and they would have had a number 1 hit on their hands.

My apologies to Darkfall fans ... I've never played that game, so I can't comment.

 

 

  Kvjavs

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1/06/10 5:20:51 PM#74

DAoC was my favorite MMO, also my first.  Great game all around, not just in PvP either.  The community was the best.

But I think WWII Online should be on that list ;) It's only PvP hehe.  That's the other game I can never put down. 

  falc0n

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SOE you broke my game!

1/06/10 5:30:27 PM#75

I think SWG before the NGE should be number one but I agree DAoC should be number two, I haven't ever played EVE though

  daywalker27

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1/06/10 5:31:07 PM#76

Do us a favor and never write a list again.

 

No Darkfall?

No Shadowbane? 

No Asheron's Call?

 

Gtfo...

  Tobias3

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1/06/10 5:38:24 PM#77

 Good call on DAoC. 

 

Bad call on WoW and WAR.

 

No Darkfall, really? Really?

 

Asheron's Call, wasn't a PvP game, just had a PvP server, so good call on that.

Shadowbane was a miserable failure, despite having some interesting ideas. So good call on that.

 

But Darkfall?

  Yamota

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1/06/10 5:51:24 PM#78
Originally posted by Tobias3

 Good call on DAoC. 

 

Bad call on WoW and WAR.

 

No Darkfall, really? Really?

 

Asheron's Call, wasn't a PvP game, just had a PvP server, so good call on that.

Shadowbane was a miserable failure, despite having some interesting ideas. So good call on that.

 

But Darkfall?

What does that mean that Asherons Call wasnt a PvP game just had a PvP server? WoW is not a PvP game either then, neither is DAoC since the PvP was restricted to certain areas on the PvE servers.

Asherons Call on the PvP server Darktide, was the best FFA PvP game ever made.

And Darkfall is a POS MMORPG. The game was released, buggy as hell, has an outdated GFX engine and terrible sound and also had a very small playerbase (and still has). Also the PvP combat was crap with little variation. So that game does not belong on any top list.

  BillMurphy

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1/06/10 5:55:51 PM#79

Hey folks,

As others have said, this is purely a list of MY OWN favorite games that had PvP in them.  I'm betting plenty of the staff at MMORPG.com would have their own different top 5 too.  But yep, these are the best times I've had PvP-ing myself.  To those who wish their game was on the list (Shadowbane, Darkfall, Planetside, etc.), I've played a LOT of these games over the years but I only felt comfortable listing those games I spent enough time in.  I played Planetside a bit, but never Shadowbane, and not Darkfall (yet). 

Hope that helps ease some of the tension or confusion at my list, and you're still totally free to completely disagree with me.  :)

  Cecropia

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1/06/10 5:55:54 PM#80
Originally posted by Yamota

 

And Darkfall is a POS MMORPG. The game was released, buggy as hell, has an outdated GFX engine and terrible sound and also had a very small playerbase (and still has). Also the PvP combat was crap with little variation. So that game does not belong on any top list.


 

There you have it folks, the voice of reason has spoken. We can all go home now. And as an added plus, I now know that I like POS games, thanks for the heads up.

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