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1/21/10 10:39:49 PM#221
Originally posted by Paragus1
Originally posted by Harafnir  ... I agree that Darkfall should be out. 5 fan bois not a right make.



I very respectfully disagree.   If you want to know what the top PvP MMORPGs of all time are, you should look at the games the top PvP guilds flock to for serious competition.  As someone who has played PvP MMOs and on PvP servers since the genre started, there are certain games that these guilds hold in high regards.

Ultima Online, Shadowbane, Dark Age of Camelot, Asheron's Call (Darktide), EVE Online, possibly Guild Wars or Lineage 2, and Darkfall.

I have played with and against some of the most prolific PvP guilds in the MMO genre, and believe me when I say Darkfall is a game where many of them have a presence for the last year.   Whether you like the game or thinks its a piece of crap, doesn't matter.   Whether the game has 11 million subscribers or 30,000 doesn't matter.  The list shouldn't be based on sub numbers because PvP and hardcore PvP is a very niche part of the genre.  Follow these guilds and you'll find the best PvP MMOs, and right now Darkfall is one of them.   No game requires more situational awareness and personal skill at the controls in the genre than this one does, despite whatever other flaws there may be.


Confirming that Darkfall should be there. The title is "top 5 PVP MMOs" - if you want to define "top" as "best, highest quality, requiring most skill" then Darkfall should be there. If you want to define "top" as "most units sold" then WOW would be first... the criteria for "top" in this list doesn't seem to hold any water, seems more like "here are the only 5 PVP MMOs I have ever played".

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1/21/10 10:51:55 PM#222

imo the only half working pvp enviroment was givin in UO pre trammel.

And trammel was born out of  a quite shitty playerbase that made life miserable for alot of ppl, and not

of getting more atractive to a more casual  playerbase .

As for today theres only 1 title that comes into my mind that offers good and stable (fair) PvP and thats  EVE .


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1/21/10 11:10:18 PM#223
Originally posted by kazamx

How can Darkfall not have made the list? Even rated it as the best PvP of 2009, nevermind top 5


Good point. I don't think the OP has even tried it.


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1/26/10 9:21:15 PM#224
Originally posted by Polarisation
Originally posted by kazamx

How can Darkfall not have made the list? Even rated it as the best PvP of 2009, nevermind top 5


Good point. I don't think the OP has even tried it.


You're right, he didn't. In fact, he even stated a few pages ago, that he hasn't tried it yet.


Read the list again people. This is a list of HIS favorite games to PvP in. It's not the top 5 PvP MMOs, it's ~his~ top 5. If someone made another list and added Hello Kitty to it, that still only makes it their favorite. Has nothing to do with any of you. Move on and troll elsewhere.


I will agree however, that the title of the post is misleading and should be modified to state to obvious if only to save on the unabashed stupid going for *checks* almost 24 pages now.

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1/26/10 9:25:27 PM#225

He must live in a closet


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Feliz seria que hora

1/26/10 9:34:03 PM#226

i think we can safely insert "that paid to be included" into all the title of all future list articles.


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1/27/10 3:01:10 AM#227

Yes, yes, and yes. I still haven't met anything that comes close to DAoC's PvP system. Apparently they call the style Realm Vs. Realm now I guess. Regardless I haven't played in about 6 years, I hope I can get my account back hahaha. I had 6 max level 50's and quit right before they did their whole PvP system revamp. I want to go back, the 3 realms fighting is where it's at.

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2/04/10 2:26:22 PM#228

As you said, this was your personal list and you did not claim to have surveyed the entire field of options. Thus, thanks for the well written and reasoned article. I enjoyed reading it. However, I felt it was my duty as a diligent reader and forum commentator to add –

xxxxwtf!!!111 No DARKFALL wtfxxxx

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2/04/10 5:13:54 PM#229
Originally posted by Stradden

In this week's list, contributor William Murphy writes this look at what he feels are the top five PvP MMOs from both the past and the present.

The List

It occurred to me as we start 2010 that I’ve spent more time playing MMOs over the past 10 years than I spent reading, writing, drawing, watching TV, riding my bike, or any other one of my hobbies. I tried to think about why I would feel inclined to spend so much of my leisure time in imaginary worlds clubbing giant rats. After vowing to ride my bike more and actually read something other than quest text in 2010, I realized one of the main reasons I like to spend several hours a week in online space is the people... and sometimes more accurately: killing them. I love questing, but the competitive streak in me loves a good fight with human opponents. Keep in mind that this list is my own, and your mileage may vary, but here then are my top five PvP MMOs.

Read The Top Five PvP MMOs.



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2/04/10 5:14:51 PM#230

What's the point of this thread when 95% of you nub's never played Asheronscall Darktide.

Todays pvp generation makes me sad


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4/13/10 10:36:44 AM#231
Originally posted by GeniusSage

No Darkfall? What a joke.

/agreed Darkfall is the most amazing game I played for PvP, although I still think the twitch melee pvp needed some work. Best times in a game ever with DF though


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4/13/10 12:53:18 PM#232
Originally posted by Kilmar

Sad list. I dont disagree (because I dont pvp much), but the first 3 ranked games are old. Hey devs, look at that list and change it ;)

Uh, what has age go to do with it?

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4/28/10 10:55:37 PM#233

Everyone that has said WAR shouldn't be on here is dumb as shit, pardon my language. The game should NOT be number 4, it deserved at least 3 on the list.  Also, I have played EVE, and there is no point even TRYING the game. There are so many people that have been playing since it came out, and the control the whole game. Also, WAR has totally open PvP that lets the factions control sectors.



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6/21/10 7:33:00 PM#234

To even have WoW in top 5 PvP shows this writers lack of MMO and PvP experience. EQ2, Darkfall, Shadowbane, EQ1 (Rallos Zek, greatest pvp server of all time ok), Neocron, hell even Vanguard, all had crap tons better PvP. The only reason WoW is in there is total lack of a death penalty which keeps the carebear crybabies comin back for more. 


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6/21/10 9:36:40 PM#235
Originally posted by Tenzyyy
Originally posted by GeniusSage

No Darkfall? What a joke.

/agreed Darkfall is the most amazing game I played for PvP, although I still think the twitch melee pvp needed some work. Best times in a game ever with DF though

Darkfall is a very small niche game that appeals to a very small audience.  They would have a hard time getting 25th on the list.    More pvp occurs in Wow in one day then in a month in Darkfall not to say pvp in Wow is anything great.  It also has a major issues such as no skill cap.  So it in no way belongs on this list.


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6/26/10 9:02:02 PM#236

WAR is very right in that list. It even deserves a higher place. The author mentioned the unmet potential but beside all the bad things about this game it has a very very important feature: it is possible to pvp in this game and do nothing but that. I just played it again for a month and indead created a toon and went to rvr. Naked, lv 1 - works.

It was often announced to be the "next-gen" pvp game. We all know it was not. But the ideas and concept were. No other game was designed to include pvp right from the very start with content for all levels.

I think the list is quite fine.

WOW for beeing the big mainstream hit

WAR for Concept

Ultima for beeing a pioneer

DAoC for beeing the most fun, replace it with you most fun game like DF, SB or GW and the list is still fine

Eve for having the most complex pvp world


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6/26/10 9:16:45 PM#237

And MY List:

1. EVE

2. Aion

3. WoW

4. Fallen Earth

5. um.... didn't get to play it but guess I'l have to include... Ultima Online

Yeah I missed out on that last one ..couldn afford a computer back in those days and I know those days were and will forever be the best!

This list is mainly "of those games I actually played.


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1/01/11 5:00:57 AM#238

Eve is overrated


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1/01/11 5:10:12 AM#239

Eve and Uo are the only mmo worth mentioning anyway, and pvp or not have nothing to do with it in fact.


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1/01/11 5:43:54 AM#240

     I wonder what his list looks like this year..  However, putting WoW up there based on "history" and not the current game.. While leaving games like Darkfall and Aion off the list, which is my opinion are far better PvP titles makes one think, " Why the Bliz and War promo?" Hell I would evern say STO deserves a spot on that list, and that is really stretching it  Last time I played Planetside, it has far better PvP then WoW and Warhammer

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