For anyone who say the new interview with david allen on Massively who else was literally crying from laughing? Man im simply amazed at how that guy is full of bullshit and turns every piece of criticism into a positive for his game. Who else agrees?

I don't think I got to the funny part; I stopped reading to find my real world achievement window.

"We have an achievement panel because we have an Achievement system planned and nearing completion. We have a keyring because we plan to have keys to open access to special content, such as instances. It's that simple.

A Keyring? Achievements? These are not WoW-specific things. They are common sense. They exist in the real world."

- David Allen

Originally posted by Kithca

I don't think I got to the funny part; I stopped reading to find my real world achievement window.

"We have an achievement panel because we have an Achievement system planned and nearing completion. We have a keyring because we plan to have keys to open access to special content, such as instances. It's that simple.

A Keyring? Achievements? These are not WoW-specific things. They are common sense. They exist in the real world."

- David Allen

My favorite part so far is:

"WoW is the most successful and well-known MMOG in history, and it follows standards set by countless games before it. Why wouldn't we want the custom-built Alganon UI to be familiar to players who know these standards? Every piece of the Alganon UI was hand created by our team. We designed it to be familiar and easy to recognize. It's simple as that."

At least he finally, partially, admits they stole -- I mean "hand created" the UI using WoW standards... I like that... WoW Standards.

Were can I read this interview? I wanna laugh :P

"But, if you are looking for the features and community we already have, or you want to be a part of the process that gets those features implemented, preorder right now."

I like how he doesn't sugar coat that, so I give him credit, of course you can go look at their website to see what features they have implemented right now! Wait, no you can't because 90% of that stuff isn't in the game and the only way to know that would be to play the beta...

"One thing we don't want is for players to get a false impression of the game and buy it because of false hype."

Which is why they released the preorders of the game while it was still under NDA? Or why they have a contest to have you e-mail your friends and convince them to buy the game... because we all know that will produce zero false hype.

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Were can I read this interview? I wanna laugh :P

www.massively.com/2009/11/11/alganon-community-interview-your-questions-answered/

 There was nothing funny about it. I actually felt bad for Allen. The interviewer was unprofessional and the questions were poorly poised to him. Almost a lil bit of disrespect came across. Regardless of if I think this is a rip off of WOW or not that was horrible. How many times do you have to ask the........if your game fails question? Its one thing to not softball the questions but its another to be that bad also.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 There was nothing funny about it. I actually felt bad for Allen. The interviewer was unprofessional and the questions were poorly poised to him. Almost a lil bit of disrespect came across. Regardless of if I think this is a rip off of WOW or not that was horrible. How many times do you have to ask the........if your game fails question? Its one thing to not softball the questions but its another to be that bad also.

I agree, the questions probably put Allen directly on the offensive. Which isn't a good thing for the interview, but neither is it good to completely evade most points made by saying "common sense" "we plan" and other cliched corporate catch phrases.

agree 100%

Originally posted by TheDarzin

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Were can I read this interview? I wanna laugh :P

www.massively.com/2009/11/11/alganon-community-interview-your-questions-answered/

Thanks for the link while some lines are pretty funny the interview did tease too much, yeah he had to ask about the similarities of both games but one question was enough regaring wow.

Well I hope alganon gets morre fanboys maybe we will see some new game getting trolled DF,Aion,War,AoC flames have become old and repetitive now :P

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 There was nothing funny about it. I actually felt bad for Allen. The interviewer was unprofessional and the questions were poorly poised to him. Almost a lil bit of disrespect came across. Regardless of if I think this is a rip off of WOW or not that was horrible. How many times do you have to ask the........if your game fails question? Its one thing to not softball the questions but its another to be that bad also.

Actually the questions were taken from readers, they had an actual interview and everyone flamed massively for being too nice and not asking questions regarding the flaws so they had a contest where the top 10 questions from readers would be answered by david.

Originally posted by Gabby-air

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 There was nothing funny about it. I actually felt bad for Allen. The interviewer was unprofessional and the questions were poorly poised to him. Almost a lil bit of disrespect came across. Regardless of if I think this is a rip off of WOW or not that was horrible. How many times do you have to ask the........if your game fails question? Its one thing to not softball the questions but its another to be that bad also.

 

Actually the questions were taken from readers, they had an actual interview and everyone flamed massively for being too nice and not asking questions regarding the flaws so they had a contest where the top 10 questions from readers would be answered by david.

So they took the top ten phitch questions and hit him over the head with them? Still to me the whole thing was very bad form. Maybe should have taken the top ten that didnt repeat themselves. 

i really do feel sorry for anyone that supports this guy and his game.

I don't understand what the big deal is. Blizzard pretty much copied everything from the Warhammer Universe and called it Warcraft. So why the uproar about a game that not many people will play anyway ?

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I don't understand what the big deal is. Blizzard pretty much copied everything from the Warhammer Universe and called it Warcraft. So why the uproar about a game that not many people will play anyway ?

Didn't you also say that "WoW stole their UI" as well in a previous post? If you aren't interested in the game, perhaps you had move along as well? Also, whether Blizzard stole everything from Warhammer isn't the debate here. Warhammer essentially took all of it's ideas from Tolkien, which were borrowed from various places including Wagner's Opera Der Ring des Nibelungen. He borrowed a lot from Norse and Germanic mythology.

The point being, it's one thing to borrow and another to just steal. Alganon stole every idea from somewhere. The two unique parts of the game "study system" and "the library" were taken from Eve and LotRO respectively.

I am sure right now, you could name a dozen RPGs that each use a different UI, different character building system, different quest style, different skill system. The choice to ripoff 90% of your game from the most popular game of it's generation is not a smart move.

Originally posted by TheDarzin

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I don't understand what the big deal is. Blizzard pretty much copied everything from the Warhammer Universe and called it Warcraft. So why the uproar about a game that not many people will play anyway ?

 

Didn't you also say that "WoW stole their UI" as well in a previous post? If you aren't interested in the game, perhaps you had move along as well? Also, whether Blizzard stole everything from Warhammer isn't the debate here. Warhammer essentially took all of it's ideas from Tolkien, which were borrowed from various places including Wagner's Opera Der Ring des Nibelungen. He borrowed a lot from Norse and Germanic mythology.

The point being, it's one thing to borrow and another to just steal. Alganon stole every idea from somewhere. The two unique parts of the game "study system" and "the library" were taken from Eve and LotRO respectively.

I am sure right now, you could name a dozen RPGs that each use a different UI, different character building system, different quest style, different skill system. The choice to ripoff 90% of your game from the most popular game of it's generation is not a smart move.

lol wow stole all its systems if we follow your standards. This game is as any other recently made. it sucks... Wow is a shit game. Plain and simple. I recieved two close beta keys for this game but thought it would be to much effort to even dl it.

ths game is a pass.

There is a difference between custom build and direct copy, what these guys are doing is copying WOW directly lol.  Like i said in my previous, i'm sure as soon as they launch they'll be sued, you dont need to be a judge to see this, it's a cut and past of WOW plain and simple.

Originally posted by ray12k

Originally posted by TheDarzin

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I don't understand what the big deal is. Blizzard pretty much copied everything from the Warhammer Universe and called it Warcraft. So why the uproar about a game that not many people will play anyway ?

 

Didn't you also say that "WoW stole their UI" as well in a previous post? If you aren't interested in the game, perhaps you had move along as well? Also, whether Blizzard stole everything from Warhammer isn't the debate here. Warhammer essentially took all of it's ideas from Tolkien, which were borrowed from various places including Wagner's Opera Der Ring des Nibelungen. He borrowed a lot from Norse and Germanic mythology.

The point being, it's one thing to borrow and another to just steal. Alganon stole every idea from somewhere. The two unique parts of the game "study system" and "the library" were taken from Eve and LotRO respectively.

I am sure right now, you could name a dozen RPGs that each use a different UI, different character building system, different quest style, different skill system. The choice to ripoff 90% of your game from the most popular game of it's generation is not a smart move.

 

lol wow stole all its systems if we follow your standards. This game is as any other recently made. it sucks... Wow is a shit game. Plain and simple. I recieved two close beta keys for this game but thought it would be to much effort to even dl it.

ths game is a pass.

I have no clue what you actually wrote -- except that WoW sucks. WoW didn't steal half the things they are accused of stealing, but most people would rather go on facetious remarks and hearsay. It's the way the world works, sadly though Alganon took far too many things from WoW for me to forgive them. Then again, I am sort of an elitist, just like someone coming on an MMO board to complain about the biggest MMO in the world.

Well, i'm still going to try the beta. I read all your posts i can, some games are not for everyone. Its a shame the perfect MMO is not out there. I like most ppl wander from MMO to MMO and come away feeling like I just had 4-5 weeks of bad sex and all pissed off. It looks good at first plays well but something is missing. So sometimes I think maybe i should have put my money on a Hooker! ><

RB

Yeah, its not a clone at all. Its all just a complete coincidence. Is Blackspire set in or around a mountain by any chance? Its a good job they didnt go with the name Asheroth after all.