I doubt it will die but it would be foolish to not think that Eve will lose subscribers to STO.

Yes it is, probably, a themepark and yes it will be casual. But I doubt every single player in Eve want hardcore and sandbox. Some might just want to play a space-sci-fi MMORPG and there arent many of those around.

vendetta-online.com/ is the only other I know of.

Originally posted by Angorim

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

 

Simple answer; STO is being produced by Cryptic so no.  CoX has never been better since they relinquished control to NCSoft and left to be their stand alone company.  I don't even want to comment on CO and I was actually looking forward to it at one point.

Sadly I somewhat agree with this. I do thing Eve will lose people to STO but it wont be many and the reason is Cryptic. They are so horrible at making MMORPGs as all of their MMORPGs play more like single player games. They have zero depth and longetivity.

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Originally posted by batolemaeus

It could also go in the opposite direction, forcing ccp to separate themselves from the pve theme park more clearly in order to preserve their market niche.

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I wouldn't say that upcoming 0.0 changes, and games development in general, are going in direction of market niche...

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by batolemaeus

It could also go in the opposite direction, forcing ccp to separate themselves from the pve theme park more clearly in order to preserve their market niche.

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I wouldn't say that upcoming 0.0 changes, and games development in general, are going in direction of market niche...

More like they have their eye on half a million subs TBH. Can you really blame them?

As to the thread, EVE has seen much better games, of all types, come out and it has had little or no effect. I just don't see this game breaking that trend.

I can only see this bringing more people to eve, people who try and get bored of STO, and what to try that other famous space mmo. Eve is really the best mmo out, and imo, the game worth playing long term.

Have you seen what kind of MMORPGs are coming out these days? I don't think EvE has anything to worry about at all.

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Originally posted by qazyman
More like they have their eye on half a million subs TBH. Can you really blame them?
As to the thread, EVE has seen much better games, of all types, come out and it has had little or no effect. I just don't see this game breaking that trend.

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CCP has decided to sacrifice the game quality to higher subs but I believe you can take a different approach and do it better with the same result.

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

:: takes out crystal ball ::

:: proceeds to smack Jimirandamn very hard between the eyes with it ::

All kidding aside, I seriously doubt much of any of Eve's player base will be hopping to a new game any time soon. This does not mean some Eve players won't try out STO, but there is no way there will be some sort of mass exodus. Eve provides a rich deep world unlike any game out there. With the exception of being set in space STO  is nothing like this game. ( And my personal and yes somewhat unfair opinion of STO, is it won't be much like Star Trek either.)

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

Eve is an entirely different game than Star Trek will be.  Just the simple fact that I've never heard any comments about how Star Treks economy will work pretty much supports my assumption.  Eve may put you in a spaceship, but the game is largely a game of economics and politics.

Because of this, Eve probably has the most loyal, hardcore sub base of any MMO.  Love it or hate it, it truly is in a class by itself.

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

Fear not friend unlike some on here who said STO will have some kind of effect on EVE I am fairly certain they will not, EVE online as I see it from my short trial time in game is a different beast from any other MMO on the market and I doubt that the features included or the build of STO will be similar enough to EVe to take many if any subs away.

Originally posted by Robsolf

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

 

Eve is an entirely different game than Star Trek will be.  Just the simple fact that I've never heard any comments about how Star Treks economy will work pretty much supports my assumption.  Eve may put you in a spaceship, but the game is largely a game of economics and politics.

Because of this, Eve probably has the most loyal, hardcore sub base of any MMO.  Love it or hate it, it truly is in a class by itself.

And this is the best way I've seen it put, without an actual interjection of opinion.  EVE gives you an entirely different experience than what will STO.  I don't think STO will really move anyone towards EVE either because as stated they are not the same type of MMO and what one looks for in STO is most likely not going to be a strong suit of EVE and vice versa.

I see potential for Cryptic to disappoint both myself and many others but I have more faith in them pulling off a fun mmo though I know there will be many unhappy no matter what.  After having played a trial of EVE I have come to respect it more than any game I've tried but it isn't for me.

Originally posted by Yamota

 I doubt it will die but it would be foolish to not think that Eve will lose subscribers to STO.

Yes it is, probably, a themepark and yes it will be casual. But I doubt every single player in Eve want hardcore and sandbox. Some might just want to play a space-sci-fi MMORPG and there arent many of those around.

vendetta-online.com/ is the only other I know of.

Star Wars Galaxies, maybe you've heard of it?  Yeah, I know most people would prefer to forget it.

There's another one on the horizon that's likely to make a bigger splash, TOR, however that's a ways down the road.

EVE will survive all of them since the new games will be providing a game play experience that is quite different and not likely to appeal to the same audience.

lol no. STO is going to fail hard.

The only thing they have in common is that they are Sci-Fi Universes.

I find that I play Eve and WAR at the same time. I might drop WAR and play Star Trek, but it will be a very different game to Eve.

I also suspect that Star Trek is not going to be a game that blow everyone away. Players have become very fussy about new game - which by their nature of being new are not going to be bug-free, balance, or polished. Take WAR, a significantly better game now it is a year old (don't listen to the trolls on this site).

Of course, all games will take a hit while a few 100K players try out Star Trek; however, EVE is very well placed to weather the storm and is game this continues to grow in playerbase. Also, I think DUST might improve EVE a lot.

Originally posted by jmirandaman

I am a noob player EVE on a trial and still deciding if I want to upgrade. I'm leaning toward yes.  Currently there are 26,000 players which is pretty good I guess.  My concern is what will happen when Star Trek Online comes out. How many people will drop this for that.  I do not know anything about Star Trek MMO nor will I be playing it at all in the future.  I was just wondering.

Depends on whether or not you get to be a space pirate mercenary (privateer) in STO, my guess is you get to start off as a redshirt or something so, no, this won't destroy EVE

Originally posted by noblot

The only thing they have in common is that they are Sci-Fi Universes.

I find that I play Eve and WAR at the same time. I might drop WAR and play Star Trek, but it will be a very different game to Eve.

I also suspect that Star Trek is not going to be a game that blow everyone away. Players have become very fussy about new game - which by their nature of being new are not going to be bug-free, balance, or polished. Take WAR, a significantly better game now it is a year old (don't listen to the trolls on this site).

Of course, all games will take a hit while a few 100K players try out Star Trek; however, EVE is very well placed to weather the storm and is game this continues to grow in playerbase. Also, I think DUST might improve EVE a lot.

After having beta'd CO and tried the free weekend, I definitely won't be touching STO til' there's a trial.  It may not be the same team, but it was an EXECUTIVE decision to release CO half done. 

STO is a BIG wildcard, and I'm not the gambling type.  But crappy or great, I doubt it'll do much to Eve's numbers.

The only thing these two games have in common is they are both in space,  I see no major empact on EVE's base from STO's launch.

The reason why EVE has been succesful for so many years is the fact that it has depth and soul. No other sci-fi MMO can even land a glancing blow on EVE's hull.

STO will have limited appeal.

Without having read the actual OP, just the topic i can instantly say  "no Eve will not" and the OP doesnt really understand wha Eve is all about to make such a post....