As of now, 12 people have been killed at Fort Hood.

This is a terrible tragedy for the United States and I pray for the Families of the Dead and Wounded and the Soldiers themselves. I would ask you do the same.

My Best Friend is stationed there and I am absolutly sick to my stomach. I hope this doesn't get any worst.... 

    I believe it was 7 dead, 12 wounded at this point. Sounds a bit like a very angry set of soliders getting even with people or just going nuts. Although.. who knows these days.

12 killed, 31 wounded. 1st shooter killed, may have been a second shooter, 2 suspects apprehended. Shooter was a US soldier.

hm..i wonder why they did it

also article:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

 Oh lord... that got worse much faster then I was expecting. Sigh, indeed, Id like to know the motives behind this situation. Thats a lot of people to attack at one time. Albeit military groups do tend to cluster...

A U.S. soldier opened fire Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, killing at least 11 people and wounding 31 others, military officials said. The gunman was shot to death, and two others were in custody.

Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, who confirmed the shootings, said the gunman used two handguns. NBC News’ Pete Williams reported that a U.S. official identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, who was 39 or 40.

A senior Obama administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.  <<<   From MSNBC News

Originally posted by Teala

A U.S. soldier opened fire Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, killing at least 11 people and wounding 31 others, military officials said. The gunman was shot to death, and two others were in custody.

Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps, who confirmed the shootings, said the gunman used two handguns. NBC News’ Pete Williams reported that a U.S. official identified the gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan, who was 39 or 40.

A senior Obama administration official told NBC News that the shootings could have been a criminal matter rather than a terrorism-related attack and that there was no intelligence to suggest a plot against Fort Hood.  <<<   From MSNBC News

Obama is clueless.

It was "terrorism" related. More and more people want to turn to Islam and destroy this society of excess and dilusions. It is not orchestrated by some group or organization but by nature.

Killing twelve trained soldiers with a handgun is almost impossible.. those poor guys must have been executed.

 Did my time in the military and god bless to any on this board who may be stationed down there. I hope you and all your families are well. 

Originally posted by Precusor

Killing twelve trained soldiers with a handgun is almost impossible.. those poor guys must have been executed.

This guy was an awesome shot, a perfectly stabe individual who could emerge himself in a trance of ultimate focus and thus being able to kill so many peoples.

EDIT: MODS if you are reading through this thread it REALLY needs to go into the Religion and Politics subforum.  Definitely not fit for generic Off-topic discussion.

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God he was a psychiatrist.

No idea what the circumstances are but I do know that the military mental health folks I know are completely overwhelmed these days.

Such heartbreak for everyone involved.

Originally posted by IIRL

 

This guy was an awesome shot, a perfectly stabe individual who could emerge himself in a trance of ultimate focus and thus being able to kill so many peoples.

Pros cant kill 12 trained soldiers with a hand gun..

Originally posted by Precusor

Killing twelve trained soldiers with a handgun is almost impossible.. those poor guys must have been executed.

Yeah.  This or something similar.  I think it is irresponsible to speculate on the motivation behind the shooting. 

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by IIRL

 

This guy was an awesome shot, a perfectly stabe individual who could emerge himself in a trance of ultimate focus and thus being able to kill so many peoples.

Pros cant kill 12 trained soldiers with a hand gun..

 

The room was probably crowded due to graduation which increases hit percentage.Sad to say but you could randomly spray at shoulder level and hit someone with each round

Originally posted by Scubie67

 

The room was probably crowded due to graduation which increases hit percentage.Sad to say but you could randomly spray at shoulder level and hit someone with each round

Natural reaction for the trained soldiers is to wrestle the shooter down to the ground but that didn't happen.

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by Scubie67

 

The room was probably crowded due to graduation which increases hit percentage.Sad to say but you could randomly spray at shoulder level and hit someone with each round

 

Natural reaction for the trained soldiers is to wrestle the shooter down to the ground but that didn't happen.

Yeah I am sure they were caught with their guard down.Their home base, I am sure is the one place if anywhere, they felt they could probably relax. Sad situation.One of the wounded passed away now,so it is 13 dead.

 As a psychiatrist he should been able to notice if he was having mental stability issues and asked for help from other Dr's.

Originally posted by Scubie67

Yeah I am sure they were caught with their guard down.Their home base, I am sure is the one place if anywhere, they felt they could probably relax. Sad situation.One of the wounded passed away now,so it is 13 dead.

 As a psychiatrist he should been able to notice if he was having mental stability issues and asked for help from other Dr's.

The sad truth is that Physicians are statistically one of the WORST groups about seeking treatment when they should.  That is partly because there is a real stigma against showing weakness during medical training and practice, and partly because you are quite likely to know professionally the people who would be treating you.

Docs make horrible patients too.  Non-compliant and prone to denial. 

The stigma with mental health issues is even greater.  Man, I would really like to know more about what happened there.

Originally posted by Enkindu

Originally posted by Scubie67

Yeah I am sure they were caught with their guard down.Their home base, I am sure is the one place if anywhere, they felt they could probably relax. Sad situation.One of the wounded passed away now,so it is 13 dead.

 As a psychiatrist he should been able to notice if he was having mental stability issues and asked for help from other Dr's.

 

The sad truth is that Physicians are statistically one of the WORST groups about seeking treatment when they should.  That is partly because there is a real stigma against showing weakness during medical training and practice, and partly because you are quite likely to know professionally the people who would be treating you.

Docs make horrible patients too.  Non-compliant and prone to denial. 

The stigma with mental health issues is even greater.  Man, I would really like to know more about what happened there.

Yeah Drs. are their own worse patients I guess.We will find out more as the days go by unlike the civilian police it seems the military is more selective of info they give out.this is one reason there is so much speculation on this incident across the cable channels

Maybe not "terrorism related" - but it sure comes close, kind of like the flip side of Timothy McVeigh, same kind of nut case, different kool-aid.:

"Hasan, born in Virginia, was single with no children. The Austin American-Statesman reported his parents were originally from Jordan.

Nader Hasan, his cousin, told ABC News Maj. Hasan had two brothers, one in the United States, the other in Jerusalem. The cousin described him as a pious lifelong Muslim."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/nadal-malik-hasan-suspected-fort-hood-shooter-psychiatrist/story?id=9010466

Originally posted by Laiina

Maybe not "terrorism related" - but it sure comes close, kind of like the flip side of Timothy McVeigh, same kind of nut case, different kool-aid.:

"Hasan, born in Virginia, was single with no children. The Austin American-Statesman reported his parents were originally from Jordan.

Nader Hasan, his cousin, told ABC News Maj. Hasan had two brothers, one in the United States, the other in Jerusalem. The cousin described him as a pious lifelong Muslim."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/nadal-malik-hasan-suspected-fort-hood-shooter-psychiatrist/story?id=9010466

It's all circumstantial until proven otherwise, especially in the current political climate.  Two of the best docs I know are from Syria and Iran and both of them are Muslim AND American.  I remember them well because last time i worked with them was during Ramadan and everyone but me on the team was fasting.. so i fasted with them as a courtesy.

Yeah, a lot of Muslims hate our guts but a lot of Muslims are just normal Americans that want to be peaceful and prosperous in a safe place.. just like we do.

I'm sure right now there are terminally stupid jackasses already heading out in their pickup trucks to throw beer bottles at the local Mosque.

Yes, this may be straight up radical Islam Hate killing Americans on American soil.  But until we KNOW that all we know is that something terrible happened, and that there was a Muslim American military physician involved.  If you pass judgment before you have all of the facts you are no better than the terrorists.