Wait, what? Crafting is bad because you need to collect stuff? Twitched combad is bad because you suck at it? Really 'nice' 'review'.

Read the entire point before attempting to make me look stupid.

FPS in Fallen Earth is not bad because I suck at it. It is bad because it is coupled with horrible pathing issues and lag. I also did not mention the annoying problem when dual wielding pistols and reloading.

Crafting is not bad because I have to gather things. It is bad because there is no simple way of gathering one item. No way of containing all the different crafting materials. And not everything you can craft is something you will ever want to craft. It is more or less filler to make the crafting experience look huge and amazing. Plus it is not exactly a process that you will feel invested in. Gather X, hit button, wait for it to create.

I mentioned "grind" because all games have it. Some it is less noticable than others. Old SWG and EQ had a horrible grind to them (my opinion anyways) whereas AOC does not seem to have a huge grind factor. Could also be because AOC was really easy to level in. Fallen Earth is in the middle of those two. It is not bad, but it is not great.

The AP skill system I explained would require you to level via killing mobs or quests. It would cap out at each level. IE level 1 you can only spend (totally random number) 100 AP. Increased to 200 at level 2.

There is plenty of PVP at level 7. Perhaps you were too busy rushing through the game and missed it. In two weeks I spent one day PVPing. I was shot in the head by a guy with a rifle in the prone position (kinda funny). I ran up on a person with a rifle with my pistols and managed to hit him six or seven times before he killed me. I was destroyed by a person that had five levels on me three or four times before I stopped trying to attack her. I was stalked by a person wtih a rifle while I was attempting to get closer to his friend that had pistols.

There is an abundance of PVP at lower levels. You may not have all the neat gear and spiffy skills, but it will still give you a general idea of what it is like. And as I said before, if I have to play till level 30 before it gets fun it sounds more like a job than a game. I already have a job, I do not want another one.

I believe the game is worth while. I am not making fun of anyone that enjoys it. I merely do not think it is a game for everyone at this point. I hope that continues to improve and grow, but at this point I would tell my friends not to play and to wait.

Ok, you must be playing different game then.

I play from East Europe and lag is bearable (imho quite fine considering my location). I'm playing pure crafter and I'm viable in PvP. Killing some guy couple of levels above me is doable and done it many times.

You mentioned in first point that being unable to get one particular thing is bad for game. This is not single player game, you know. Checked Auction house? Asked around? This is normal in any game with at least reasonable economy (my fav is EVE online).

You have level 7 and already lost with reagents. Guess what: there are 4 tiers of most items and I'm managing 3 of them quite easy. You must be doing something terrible wrong.

As for another point. I'm wearing only what I crafted. Levelling mainly doing some ingredients for other items (Refine xxxx) and I'm quite happy with crafting.

Grind is acceptable for me although I generally really don't like it. It's matter of taste.

You get 20 AP per level + you can have many more from quests - I have around 145 bonus points from different missions. You need any kind of advance system in MMORPG. Show me one without any (and no, Counter Strike is not MMORPG).

Ohh and also:
THERE IS NO ABUNDANCE OF PVP AT LEVEL 7. Come on... Ever heard of conflict towns with faction quests for AP or faction standings increase? There is PvP and it starts in S2. S1 is noob place to get you familiar with game.

 I absolutely respect this review, eventhough I do not agree with all of it.  7/10 isn't a bad score by any means, especially when pretty much saying straight out that the twitch based combat wasn't for them, when combat is a large part of the gameplay (especially in PvP) and the PvP at level 7... well as most fallen earthers know, not a good idea... but FE devs did say you can PvP from the get go, so I don't hold it against the reviewer for trying it.

Altogether I respect the opinions in this review, and applaud the OP for knowing that what he posted was opinion instead of all the other 1 hit reviews that express their opinions as fact.  Good review OP.

I respect your review dont agree with it, but respect it.

At least you didnt complain about the horrid lag then spout off computer specs like

"im have 512 MB corsair ram running windows vista 64 bit"

I also thought the AI was a little off.  The crafting was ok.  It did seem as though you had to craft and as such everyone was a crafter so really the only point to crafting was for your own use.  That might change at the higher levels, but that doesn't make it any better for those leveling up.  I do wish they had a skill system like EVE.  I got to 20 and realized I screwed up my build and the lack of no respec kinda sucked.  Since you get points based off level and since there is a level cap it is possible to screw up your character.  I know they were adament about not allowing respec's, but were also considering something like a once or twice a year respec.  Maybe if they just gave everyone a 1 time chance at level 20, that way it gives you some time to figure out your build so you aren't screwed.  Hell I would still be playing that game if that were the case.   

I thought your review was pretty even-handed, taoofjester. I appreciate that you stayed away from exaggeration for the most part and just stated your likes / dislikes and ratings.

It's a shame that the game didn't appeal to you more, but everyone has their own tastes and opinions. I agree that it has potential, and that's why I will continue to support it.

I did want to ask you about your statements about crafting. For me, crafting management was pretty easy, but I tabbed everything out in my inventory so that I could see only crafting materials, if that's all I wanted to look at.  Did you take advantage of the inventory tabs?  You could sort your inventory in individual tabs by crafting mats, mission items, weapons, armor, etc., so you don't have to see everything at once.

Hope you check back on the game... I think we're going to continue to see improvements.

The problem I had sorting things is when it was in the bank, but not in my inventory. I found if it was in my inventory it did not really matter exactly where it was as I could craft no matter its location. I believe a quick, easy fix for this problem is to make a list of items in your bank when you access it and have it sortable either by name, material type (crafting, armor, weapon) or by use (for cooking, medicine). This would allow someone to just select the item and hit *add to inventory*.

I did not store a lot of things in my actual inventory due to my low strength. This meant I had a lot of transfering from bank to inventory when I wanted to craft and back again for when I wanted my inventory free so I can loot and harvest. My strength was exceptionally low (I think I only put one point into it) so it made it frustrating. But I also did not want to add a lot of points as I was not going melee and knew that I could never respec. 

I will definitely check back with this game in six months or so to see where it is at. Oh, it would also be nice if they put a character planner on their website (perhaps they have one, I used a different website to do mine) as the lack of respecing makes it really important to get right the first time.

You lost me at "Immersion 4/10"

This review doesn't cut it.  Don't pay attention to it people.  Play the free trial and decide for yourself.

Originally posted by Dis_Ordur

You lost me at "Immersion 4/10"

This review doesn't cut it.  Don't pay attention to it people.  Play the free trial and decide for yourself.

 

theres a free trial for the gamE?