Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by TheCharlie

Originally posted by Zorndorf

The intelligent people always play WOW.  How so?  Who is the most intelligent people?  You have any proves that the top executives, the leader academics, the professionals, ... play WoW.  Sorry, you are most likely wrong on this.

Why?

Who would play a game developped with 3% of Blizzard's resources and even THINK they could come up with an equal superb balanced game system in every INCH of its gaming system.  When I play a game I play to enjoy the game, I do not need to know who wins and who loses, because, when I log out, its all over.

It is like saying your local football club with a 100.000 Euro budget could beat Real Madrid

 

 

 

Did it ever occur to you that there are other MMOs out there that has certain aspects of it that is better than WoW. Sure, WoW is a well-rounded game, but there are some features in WoW that does not appeal to certain groups. For example, the PVP system in WoW is terrible compared to the PVP system in games such as Darkfall or EVE.

So no, its not that people are stupid for  wanting to play games other than WoW. Its just that we prefer features that WoW offers poorly.

So run along now and pray to your Lich King action figure while vigorously playing WoW, reading WoW lore and believing that you are an intelligent life-form just because you like WoW.

 

 

 

I tried 90% of those...  So have many of us, and each of us forms his own opinion

Sorry but the PVP system in WOW for example is head and shoulders above the competition. Why ?

Because the control and responsiveness of your avatars in WOW is FAR better and more fluid than in any other mmorpg I played. 

I hate a game where you can't control your avatar in a fluid and responsive way. Most of the OFF line adventure games suck even in this aspect of a game.  Your criteria for selecting a pvp game is the control, ok thank you for informing me that, I most certainly do not care about that aspect as much as you.

And ... that's the BASIC element of PvP isn't it: ---- > NOT fighting your controls, but fighting the other person.  You are concerning about the control, I am concerned about the purpose of a pvp, others maybe interested in skill sets.  Each of us have his/her own sets of preference.

I am not surprised WOW is the ONLY mmorpg with a representation on E sports Broadcast channel. ESPN.  So bloody what?  That means its good?  I also note that Coke is featuring ads on every major channel, so ...?

But this extreme example of polish shines in every way the game is made. Itemisation, class designs, quest designs, the extreme polish of Raid content.  Polishness is definitely one of the major strength of WoW, but gaming does not end there, however importance polishness is.

You are being VERY naieve if you think you can compete with 5% of the development resources.  You sure?  That we need to play a game that beats the other game?  How does WoW beat DAoC, they pvp? and WoW launches a fireball dealing 5672 damage to DAoC and DAoC died?

That's why intelligent people play WOW. I only PAY for the best developped resources.  So you are trying to tell us you are an intelligent people.  Sure, thank you for the classification.  My lead professor does not play WoW, I will go tell him that a certain Zorn classify him as not intelligent.  I need to call the ambulance first, in case he die of laughter.

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I still want to play the usual amateurish competition now and then (like the upcoming ST), but I don't expect ANYTHING worthwile that could compete with a Blizzard product.

I am too intelligent to expect otherwise. 

In as much as I play WoW regularly, along with a few other games (Dragon Age: Origin, lately), I hate the way Zorn try to make himself look bigger than what he is.  If his intelligence is based on an electronic game, I will have to worship his super human god mode intelligence, oh well, time to log out and forget WoW, back to the real world.

Originally posted by Chr1sc

 After 6 months of looking for good mmo's to play after leaving world of warcraft. Im starting to get the wow itch again so why should i go back when i have applied for both STO and TOR beta's. To start paying again for wow then if i like sto or tor drop it to play one of them full time seems like a waste to me.

I can understand your dilemma.

Play what you enjoy now......... Leaving WoW does not mean you cannot return. I have left and returned to many games, I tend to need a break from games, and since there are few games that I enjoy i tend to return to them when i get the itch again, nothing at all wrong with that.

These games will be around for a long long time, so there is no rush.... pick and choose which ever you enjoy at the time, as this is what is the most important thing to YOU.

Originally posted by Chr1sc

 After 6 months of looking for good mmo's to play after leaving world of warcraft. Im starting to get the wow itch again so why should i go back when i have applied for both STO and TOR beta's. To start paying again for wow then if i like sto or tor drop it to play one of them full time seems like a waste to me.

If you want to play a game dont join the betas. You will be leveling your character and it will be wiped, then you will already know a lot of the game and you will spoil yourself throught the content. My recomendation, if you want to play wow, go play wow.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

I tried 90% of those...

Sorry but the PVP system in WOW for example is head and shoulders above the competition. Why ?

Because the control and responsiveness of your avatars in WOW is FAR better and more fluid than in any other mmorpg I played.

I hate a game where you can't control your avatar in a fluid and responsive way. Most of the OFF line adventure games suck even in this aspect of a game.

And ... that's the BASIC element of PvP isn't it: ---- > NOT fighting your controls, but fighting the other person.

I am not surprised WOW is the ONLY mmorpg with a representation on E sports Broadcast channel. ESPN.

But this extreme example of polish shines in every way the game is made. Itemisation, class designs, quest designs, the extreme polish of Raid content.

You are being VERY naieve if you think you can compete with 5% of the development resources.

That's why intelligent people play WOW. I only PAY for the best developped resources.

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I still want to play the usual amateurish competition now and then (like the upcoming ST), but I don't expect ANYTHING worthwile that could compete with a Blizzard product.

I am too intelligent to expect otherwise. 

 

What if players dislike a fantasy setting? Raids? Set classes? 

What if we like FFA pvp with item loss? What about territory control?

Wow offers none of that.

Yet I'm not intelligent because I choose not to play a certain video game? A video game that offers everything but the features I enjoy during my free time?

 

 

 

 

I am not saying you are not intelligent when you don't play WOW or a Fantasy based game.
 

I am saying that IF you are playing WOW, you are intelligent enough to understand what's making the difference between a game in which Blizzard invested over 200 million dollars over the last 5 years....

and a game that tries to do something with 1-5% of that amount.

Be it itemisation, high level content, smooth and responsive gameplay in various forms of  PVE/PVE, options.

I pay a subscription for the game that offers me a 200 million dollar investment worth of gameplay.

IF you think you can find that in games with low cost budgets, you simply lack intelligence.

THAT is my answer to the OP: to WOW or not to WOW....

In my opinion, I pay a subscription to play a game I enjoy, no matter how many money the developer invested on it. But is up to you. I had a lot of fun playing games that with your reasoning are out of the question, but go on, it's up to you.

Originally posted by Chr1sc

 After 6 months of looking for good mmo's to play after leaving world of warcraft. Im starting to get the wow itch again so why should i go back when i have applied for both STO and TOR beta's. To start paying again for wow then if i like sto or tor drop it to play one of them full time seems like a waste to me.

Did you leave before or after 3.2.2 (the Argent tournament raids)? You may want o wait till Ice Crown is out then come back for that content. It should be here within a few months (or even weeks).

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

I tried 90% of those...

Sorry but the PVP system in WOW for example is head and shoulders above the competition. Why ?

Because the control and responsiveness of your avatars in WOW is FAR better and more fluid than in any other mmorpg I played.

I hate a game where you can't control your avatar in a fluid and responsive way. Most of the OFF line adventure games suck even in this aspect of a game.

And ... that's the BASIC element of PvP isn't it: ---- > NOT fighting your controls, but fighting the other person.

I am not surprised WOW is the ONLY mmorpg with a representation on E sports Broadcast channel. ESPN.

But this extreme example of polish shines in every way the game is made. Itemisation, class designs, quest designs, the extreme polish of Raid content.

You are being VERY naieve if you think you can compete with 5% of the development resources.

That's why intelligent people play WOW. I only PAY for the best developped resources.

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I still want to play the usual amateurish competition now and then (like the upcoming ST), but I don't expect ANYTHING worthwile that could compete with a Blizzard product.

I am too intelligent to expect otherwise. 

 

What if players dislike a fantasy setting? Raids? Set classes? 

What if we like FFA pvp with item loss? What about territory control?

Wow offers none of that.

Yet I'm not intelligent because I choose not to play a certain video game? A video game that offers everything but the features I enjoy during my free time?

 

 

 

 

I am not saying you are not intelligent when you don't play WOW or a Fantasy based game.
 

I am saying that IF you are playing WOW, you are intelligent enough to understand what's making the difference between a game in which Blizzard invested over 200 million dollars over the last 5 years....

and a game that tries to do something with 1-5% of that amount.

Be it itemisation, high level content, smooth and responsive gameplay in various forms of  PVE/PVE, options.

I pay a subscription for the game that offers me a 200 million dollar investment worth of gameplay.

IF you think you can find that in games with low cost budgets, you simply lack intelligence.

THAT is my answer to the OP: to WOW or not to WOW....

You can reword what you are saying as many times as you wish, but the fact still remains.

You believe that you are an advanced form of intelligent life along with the 11 million or so other people that play WoW and that everyone who plays another game and enjoy it much more than WoW are of an lesser intelligence.

WoW has hundreds of millions of dollars invested in it....so what? people like myself SEE that the game is well-polished and has many different features in it and it is probably the most well-balanced game on the market, but we still don't like it.

That doesn't make us of a lesser intelligence because we SEE that the game is well-polished and good. Its just that it has features that we DON'T like. Whether that is the PVP system that does not quite appeal to us or that its Fantasy-based and we would rather play a Sci-Fi based game like EVE.

Please, don't ever say that people who play WoW are an intelligent group of people. I've seen many people who are incredibly retarded on that game. Apparently that group includes yourself. Not only do you consider yourself as a supremely intelligent being, which by itself is extremely egotistical and arrogant, you also seem to hold a narrow-minded view about games, which is also ignorant.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

...Zorn propaganda...

It is like saying your local football club with a 100.000 Euro budget could beat Real Madrid

 

http://www.marca.com/2009/10/27/futbol/copa_rey/1256683945.html

In case you can't read spanish

Alcorcon 4-0 Real Madrid

They are in the Spanish 3rd division.