I can't say that I trust this but I see why this is happening. For those people who claim the gameplay is pretty bad from playing the eurogamer demo; I think basing your opinions on that demo is not exactly right and I'm almost pretty sure the people in closed beta would agree considering they said the eurogamer demo was an earlier version of the combat. I don't believe they would show off the combat and keep talking about it if they didnt think it was good enough. I am skeptical but I am hopeful.

Come 1 Dec 2009,  Atari and Cryptic may have no other legal choice but to ship it out the door to you on 2 Feb 2010.  Because of the new FTC rules that go into effect on that date.

Cryptic apparently has no idea what they are doing when it comes to making MMOs. If they are releasing this game ALREADY after only picking up the IP from Perpetual LAST YEAR, the game could not possibly be anywhere near ready...

Why do so many developers seem to think it is okay to rush unfinished garbage MMOs to release!?!? Why can't they seem to learn from the mistakes of so many others?? One need only look to the most successful and popular MMORPG in history to see that you should never rush out a game before it is ready. WoW released with more than enough content to keep most players occupied and happy. I don't see how Cryptic could POSSIBLY have enough content prepared for a Feb. 2010 release... 

Unless of course everything in the game is procedurally generated crap with no soul.

Geez you lot a negative bunch!!! Why????

You haven't even played it yet... you've only seen screenies and demo vids.  All the Trekkies I've spoken with are so excited and can't wait to play.  I even have several guildies in the closed beta, and tho they can't say anything, they can say it rocks!

I'm pretty certain that you lot of grumpy downers are in the minority. So, please get a life of your own and stop dragging others down with your negative posts.

As the old saying goes... "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"...

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Originally posted by Misscreant

Geez you lot a negative bunch!!! Why????

You haven't even played it yet... you've only seen screenies and demo vids.  All the Trekkies I've spoken with are so excited and can't wait to play.  I even have several guildies in the closed beta, and tho they can't say anything, they can say it rocks!

I'm pretty certain that you lot of grumpy downers are in the minority. So, please get a life of your own and stop dragging others down with your negative posts.

As the old saying goes... "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"...

 

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Or we could show our displeasure and hopefully make them think twice about shipping out an undeveloped product.

Your way ends up with flowers and rainbows and happy times here on the forums... and a trash game.

The other way is more realistic and possibly gets  us a good game.  Unfortunately, all is not sunshine, happiness, and love in the gumdrop forums... oh poo.

You can keep your flowers and rainbows.  This is a consumer driven market, the only way to improve things is to bitch about them.  It sucks but that's the reality of it.

There are three obvious reasons why this game came together so quickly.

1.First of all it is a space game, there is less work to making a space game. Why, because its space, throw out an few dozen asteroids, some wierd looking gas and a giant planet, and wammo, there is your playfield. 

2. they already had the game engine built. Half of an MMOs creation effort isin the engiene, they were able to skip that part and just work on content.

3.Speaking of content, they didn't have to create it out of thin air, the content was already there, they didnt have to think up anything, star trek already was thought of.

You take those three things into consideration and it explains how this game was able to be made so quickly, rest your worries.

Originally posted by pcolapat

3.Speaking of content, they didn't have to create it out of thin air, the content was already there, they didnt have to think up anything, star trek already was thought of.

 

Believe it or not, creating content is much quicker and easier than trying to adhere to content that spans over an absolute vast amount of sources.

nice cant wait the game looks to be a good change from all this fantasy elf/orc crap i been playing for 10 years kinda burned out, hope it turns out to be a fun game

They haven't spent enough time beta testing the game. I expect the same crap that happened with Champions to happen with STO. It's sad, because this game could make a killing if done right. Cryptic is very good at building up hype, but not delivering. So, I will check the game out and i hope that I am going to be surprised, but I'm not going to be get super excited. Nothing that Cryptic has done so far with Champions has made me think STO will be a hit.

I've been railing against STO's direction as much as anyone here, but I'm really starting to believe this isn't Cryptic's fault. This is the fault of Paramount and Atari -- companies that know **** all about MMO development.   This insight on my part doesn't persuade me to buy STO, but it does lend pity to Cryptic for having its brand name sullied by its tyrannical overlords.  I sense Cryptic is doing the best that they can with the time and money resources given them; unfortunately their best isn't good enough (from what I can tell thus far) for me sad to say.

Originally posted by comerb 

Or we could show our displeasure and hopefully make them think twice about shipping out an undeveloped product.

Your way ends up with flowers and rainbows and happy times here on the forums... and a trash game.

The other way is more realistic and possibly gets  us a good game.  Unfortunately, all is not sunshine, happiness, and love in the gumdrop forums... oh poo.

You can keep your flowers and rainbows.  This is a consumer driven market, the only way to improve things is to bitch about them.  It sucks but that's the reality of it.

Or you could post something CONSTRUCTIVE in the STO forums about where you think Cryptic is making some mistakes and OFFER some ideas on how it could be done better... at least that's what an adult would do.

If people agree with you or have other ideas, then you might create some momentum, and maybe, just maybe, change something for the good of STO.

But bitching, moaning, and proffering suppositions and assumptions doesn't really do anything worthwhile in the end... it all about how you say it, and the best place to say it.  I, personally, would be surprised if the STO devs read forums in this corner of the world when they have tens of thousands of posters on the OFFICIAL forums... happy to be proven wrong tho...

Or you could post something CONSTRUCTIVE in the STO forums about where you think Cryptic is making some mistakes and OFFER some ideas on how it could be done better... at least that's what an adult would do.

If people agree with you or have other ideas, then you might create some momentum, and maybe, just maybe, change something for the good of STO.

But bitching, moaning, and proffering suppositions and assumptions doesn't really do anything worthwhile in the end... it all about how you say it, and the best place to say it.  I, personally, would be surprised if the STO devs read forums in this corner of the world when they have tens of thousands of posters on the OFFICIAL forums... happy to be proven wrong tho...

Of course they read these forums.  Short of word of mouth this site is the most prevalent form of advertisement the MMO community has.  

The feedback in this thread is the most constructive feed-back any game company can get.  Don't release the game until its ready.  Just because its not packaged in ribbons and bows doesn't automatically delegate it to mindless complaints.

Yeah i agree 100%  tired of games relseased not finished.  Few years ago you could go to best buy look at pc games pick one that looked good go home play have fun or game sucked but at lest it was finshed and worked.  Now your gambling 60$ on a pc game that you havent spent alot of time reading about  or your standing looking at the game box  IS the game even finshed!

Sto might come out working right but im going going to bet there is going to be very little content and fetures, so far i herd alot of it is just smashing 2 buttons, at lest wow i can roll my face across the keybored!

Originally posted by Acornia

Come 1 Dec 2009,  Atari and Cryptic may have no other legal choice but to ship it out the door to you on 2 Feb 2010.  Because of the new FTC rules that go into effect on that date.

New FTC rules? 

Any more info on this?

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Acornia

Come 1 Dec 2009,  Atari and Cryptic may have no other legal choice but to ship it out the door to you on 2 Feb 2010.  Because of the new FTC rules that go into effect on that date.

New FTC rules? 

Any more info on this?

Kindly explain the connection, and why STO must ship... I fail to see it.

Cool story bro, too bad it's going to fail regardless of when it ships because Cryptic seems to think putting out as many MMOs as possible in a short amount of time will guarantee a large subscriber base.

BTW: This game is going to get ROCKED by SW:TOR when it comes out.

haha I laugh at all of you who said the game will come out in 2011. As expected you armchair game developers, you know nothing.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Acornia

Come 1 Dec 2009,  Atari and Cryptic may have no other legal choice but to ship it out the door to you on 2 Feb 2010.  Because of the new FTC rules that go into effect on that date.

New FTC rules? 

Any more info on this?

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I don't hold too much hope for this game releasing so soon. 4 months for testing sounds like another 6 months of patches and downtime for subscribers.

I was really excited about this title but the more time passes so does the excitement unfortunately. I'll be waiting for a bit after release to buy it.  I'm a trek fanboy but not a big enough of one to want to pay beta test this one.

Feb..does seem a bit quick, I kinda figured it for Christmas sales 2010, Depending on how large the staff allot can get done by the release date, I just hope the bean counters are not the ones rushing them to release, the suits have ruined allot of games by pushing them out the door for box sales and not looking at the long term subscriptions that an mmo depends on for longevity.. :)