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  User Deleted
 
11/03/09 1:19:24 AM#1

Citing "gross violations," regulator revokes NetEase's permit to operate game in authoritarian nation; internal government power struggle blamed.

After spending much of 2009 offline, the Chinese version of World of Warcraft has found itself in limbo once again. According to Reuters, the authoritarian nation's General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) has revoked the permit needed to operate the game from Blizzard Entertainment's localization partner, NetEase.

 

"I'm sorry sir, but that sword just isn't regulation size."

Regulators reportedly claimed that NetEase, which landed the localization contract for the massively multiplayer role-playing game in April, had committed "gross violations" of Chinese law. As a result, GAPP officials ordered NetEase to stop charging players of the game in China and cease accepting any new registrations. It also rejected the company's application to localize the first WOW expansion, The Burning Crusade.

As a result of the GAPP's move, NetEase saw its shares fall 2.4 percent on the NASDAQ stock exchange to close the day at $37.69. (Shares were down an additional 1.38 percent in after-hours trading.) Reps for the company told Reuters they believe they are in full compliance with the GAPP regulations and were seeking "clarification" as to what exact violations were committed.

Roth Capital Partners analyst Adam Krejcik blamed the sudden revocation on behind-the-scenes jockeying for power by the GAPP and China's powerful Ministry of Culture, which has been leading a crackdown on online gaming all year. "These guys are essentially stuck in the middle of this power struggle," Krejcik said of NetEase.

If World of Warcraft is shut down in China permanently, it will have an adverse effect on the earnings of Blizzard's parent company, Activision Blizzard. Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey told Reuters that $0.05 could be lopped off the megapublisher's per share earnings, which are expected to be $0.65 for the 2009 fiscal year.

 

Source: www.gamespot.com/news/6238638.html

  pepsibottle

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11/03/09 1:28:42 AM#2

Already posted it but most ignore my post because it didn't have a flashy title >< lol.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258037/Policies-in-China.html

  User Deleted
11/03/09 1:38:31 AM#3

No one knows what exactly happens.  It does appear to look like some form of trade regulation, as it is specifically targetting a successful imported title.

At least the chinese gov't  managed to come up with some totally stupid excuse.  The western gov'ts simply levy tariff when they have no way to compete with imports from China.

So much for the pretense to free trade.  Its free if I am winning the hands.

  Caleveira

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11/03/09 1:40:32 AM#4
Originally posted by pepsibottle

Already posted it but most ignore my post because it didn't have a flashy title >< lol.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258037/Policies-in-China.html


 

i wont respond to anything that doesnt sound like it could be in a tabloid...

Is this for real? Even tho i followed the links i do have a hard time swallowing they would do this a second time. As much as i may not like WOW myself this is something i would consider bad news for all MMOs.

Just to make things clear...
I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.

  Xiaoki

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11/03/09 1:48:56 AM#5

The only company this will really hurt is NetEase.

In 2008 even though China alone comprised almost half of WoWs subscribers it only accounted for about 7% of WoWs total revenue.

So, yeah, sensationalist headlines and predictions of doom aside this wont be as much of a blow to WoW, Blizzard or Activision Blizzard as people think it will.

  heartless

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11/03/09 1:53:57 AM#6

If I remember correctly, most Chinese players play on Taiwan servers anyway. All this shut down means is that the rest of the Chinese players will move to Taiwan servers as well. So this is a non-issue for Blizzard.


I rather die the worst me than live to be the best you.

  pepsibottle

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Joined: 10/22/09
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11/03/09 1:55:59 AM#7
Originally posted by heartless

If I remember correctly, most Chinese players play on Taiwan servers anyway. All this shut down means is that the rest of the Chinese players will move to Taiwan servers as well. So this is a non-issue for Blizzard.

 

I can see the next headline already:

"China blocks Taiwan WoW servers"

  User Deleted
11/03/09 1:58:14 AM#8

Think Blizzard might be regretting dumping The9, oddly GAPP had no issues when they were running WoW and now after Blizzard has made even more changes to appease GAPP its still banned.

Strange that, um, think The9 might have some people in high places?

  Dibdabs

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11/03/09 7:09:41 AM#9

Having the Chinese removed from the WoW gold-farming business is truly good news.  Win/Win situation.

  Aradria

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11/03/09 9:14:53 AM#10


Originally posted by Dibdabs
Having the Chinese removed from the WoW gold-farming business is truly good news.  Win/Win situation.

The gold farmers you're presumably talking about play on the western servers, which are nothing to do with NetEase.

  jayanti

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11/03/09 9:21:24 AM#11

 See, thats what happens when you repeat gank what you think is a low level newbie and they turn out to be a Chinese goverment official!

 

"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright

  tro44_1

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11/03/09 11:11:19 AM#12

OK so WTF up with this China hate towards WoW?

Seems like the age long Nintendo vs SONY crap all over again.

  Zeblade

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11/03/09 11:18:09 AM#13

Yawn..   Wow will still be here .. its not going anywhere...

  User Deleted
 
11/03/09 1:26:18 PM#14
Originally posted by Zeblade

Yawn..   Wow will still be here .. its not going anywhere...


 

Here as in NA/EU but it looks as if its taking a long vacation in China which is sad really bcause the gamers are the ones being hurt the most. Someone mentioned chinese players being able to play on Taiwan servers but until I see that in ink then I am going to take it as just an asumption on their part.

  Xiaoki

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11/03/09 1:52:47 PM#15


Originally posted by SaintViktor

Originally posted by Zeblade

Yawn..   Wow will still be here .. its not going anywhere...


 
Here as in NA/EU but it looks as if its taking a long vacation in China which is sad really bcause the gamers are the ones being hurt the most. Someone mentioned chinese players being able to play on Taiwan servers but until I see that in ink then I am going to take it as just an asumption on their part.



You mean "Here as in NA/EU/AU/JP/KR/TW and every other Asian country in the world with the lone exception of China" right? You do understand that "China" does not mean "all of Asia" right?

Also whats so hard to believe that Chinese players are moving to the Taiwan servers?

http://www.jlmpacificepoch.com/newsstories?id=148976_0_5_0_M

  Caleveira

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Posts: 563

11/03/09 2:00:03 PM#16

Wonder why so many people are jumping to reassure themselves this means nothing... Yes, western players are unlikely to be affected at all because of this, and yes, this probably doesnt mean a catastrophe for Activision-Blizzards earnings. I saw neither the OP nor anyone else making such claims.

Just to make things clear...
I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.

  dstar.

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HI!

11/03/09 2:02:14 PM#17

China is so weird.

  User Deleted
11/03/09 2:15:54 PM#18

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  Lansid

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"Remember... no matter where you go... there you are!"

11/03/09 3:08:07 PM#19

 Doesn't China represent around 4 million subscribers to WoW? or was it Asia in general?

PROTIP: China has lots of "tanks" and carry LOTS of "aggro" as you can see by this total zone aggro. I can almost hear the guy yelling in EQ fashion "TRAIN INC! ZONE OR DIE! I GOT THESE F'ERS" Those who Tank in WoW, need to take lessons here for aggro control.

**On a more serious note though, the image for those who don't know is one of many that's always stuck with me from the "Tiananmen-square incident/massacre". If you've seen the video for this and live in a free country, it's hard to fathom how enormous this mans balls are for stopping in front of a line of tanks (I counted around 15ish+?) If you can find the video, the lead tank attempts to move around him and he runs back into the tanks path multiple times.**

My point is, regarding history to present, I'm surprised that they allow actual physical connection to the internet outside of their country at all for civilian use, when compared to what we "know" about the past events.

But from what I gathered, their "official stance" on banning games of the kind/genre are because of the forming of "gangs"/guilds in the game,  *because they "advocate obscenity, gambling, or violence" and "undermine morality and Chinese traditional culture." (* from www.gamespot.com/news/6214322.html) If I were to take a guess though... WoW is too big for its britches in China, and the govt. doesn't want the younger generations to band together en masse, playing a westernized game with potentially damaging ideas that might undermine their govt. I could be totally off base though.

Maybe a high lvl official got ganked and corpsecamped... *shrug* who knows.

"There is only one thing of which I am certain, and that's nothing is certain."

  svann

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Posts: 1064

11/04/09 12:15:55 AM#20

WoW has too much western culture for the stiff necks.  Its like McDonalds in France.  Lots of people want it, but some people in power want to ban it.

  Darkholme

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11/04/09 12:22:53 AM#21
Originally posted by pepsibottle

Already posted it but most ignore my post because it didn't have a flashy title >< lol.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258037/Policies-in-China.html

 

And I posted about it before either of you, and in it's proper forum no less, so I win my 15 seconds of E-Fame WOOT!!!

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258027/NetEase-gets-China-nonapproval-notice-No-WoW-in-China-Again.html

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  neorandom

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11/04/09 12:23:41 AM#22

 heavan forbid they think that sex and violence should be kept controlled in media that their children might turn out to be decent people.  ya we already know it wont work but you cant blame them for trying considering how the worlds ethics and morality are flying down the toilet as fast as they are.

  Caleveira

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11/04/09 1:04:49 AM#23
Originally posted by Darkholme
Originally posted by pepsibottle

Already posted it but most ignore my post because it didn't have a flashy title >< lol.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258037/Policies-in-China.html

 

And I posted about it before either of you, and in it's proper forum no less, so I win my 15 seconds of E-Fame WOOT!!!

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/258027/NetEase-gets-China-nonapproval-notice-No-WoW-in-China-Again.html

8)


 

Flashy titles my friend, flashy titles...

@Neorandom; Socrates made the same claims about loss of morals in his times (in which it was considered a man could not love a woman, as they were no true equals) the world has certainly survived the decline in "morality".

Just to make things clear...
I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.