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  Zindaihas

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Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 5059

'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman

 
11/01/09 6:57:14 PM#1

Check out my new "save America" video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg

  Fishermage

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 7695

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/01/09 7:15:09 PM#2
Originally posted by Zindaihas

Check out my new "save America" video

 

Very nice. Other than it was hard to read some of the words and the first line went by a bit fast.

The babe made me crack up.

  Zindaihas

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Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 5059

'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman

 
11/01/09 7:48:08 PM#3
Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Zindaihas

Check out my new "save America" video

 

Very nice. Other than it was hard to read some of the words and the first line went by a bit fast.

The babe made me crack up.


 

Yeah, unfortunately with the picture backgrounds it was difficult for me to get all of the captions to stand out.  I experimented with several different font colors and that's about the best I could come up with :(

You just have to watch it several times to figure it out :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg

  sepher

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Joined: 6/10/06
Posts: 3548

11/01/09 7:53:36 PM#4

Way too heavy on generic doomsday messages. Absolutely devoid of any meaningful and explained facts and figures.

If that's what you were shooting for, two thumbs up.

  frodus

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Joined: 9/15/06
Posts: 2391

Justification is an event. Sanctification is a process.

11/01/09 7:54:23 PM#5
Originally posted by Zindaihas

Check out my new "save America" video


 

I like it vary much Zin...makes me proud.

Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

  Gameloading

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Joined: 2/27/04
Posts: 14172

11/01/09 8:29:37 PM#6

Not a very good video. it is little more than propaganda and I don't know if that was your intent.

No any real statistics or number, no attempt to look from the other side because Yes, they are spending fo a reason and above all, no real alternative solution to the problem.

Just doomsday preaching with some images,

  Zindaihas

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Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 5059

'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman

 
11/01/09 9:16:40 PM#7

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg

  Gameloading

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11/01/09 9:22:28 PM#8
Originally posted by Zindaihas

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.

 

The video is very right indeed.

But nevermind that. Keep telling yourself that a video with no facts and a bunch of pictures make for an informative video.

  sepher

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11/01/09 9:39:26 PM#9
Originally posted by Zindaihas

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.


 

The problem is that there's nothing to be critical of. Where's the facts and figures? Without those it matters not whether you get complaint or compliment, because what exactly is being critiqued?

Let me ask you. What do YOU find most interesting and revealing about your video? What knowledge, complete with facts and backed with figures, did you seek to impart?

Again if that wasn't your goal, more power to you.

  Dekron

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Joined: 10/01/03
Posts: 9504

11/01/09 9:41:05 PM#10
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Zindaihas

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.

 

The video is very right indeed.

But nevermind that. Keep telling yourself that a video with no facts and a bunch of pictures make for an informative video.

Mark it, for it may not happen for quite some time, but I have to agree with GL on this. While you know I am in agreement with you Zin, facts and verifiable figures need to be added for validity of the information. Although we know it to be fact, there are those who do not.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

  User Deleted
11/01/09 9:44:28 PM#11

The leftie is right though, you do need to put in some facts and figures.  Notice the leftie doesn't say anything to the contrary about what your saying, they can't argue that, so they will attack whatever else they can. 

Your text is too hard to read, the color does not stand out on some backgrounds.

I have no idea about this but I'm wondering, are you breaking any copyright by playing Pink Floyd in the background? 

Good vid.  We can always use another person preaching the truth since it gets corrupted so much these days. 

  Zindaihas

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'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman

 
11/01/09 10:01:42 PM#12
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Zindaihas

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.

 

The video is very right indeed.

But nevermind that. Keep telling yourself that a video with no facts and a bunch of pictures make for an informative video.

Mark it, for it may not happen for quite some time, but I have to agree with GL on this. While you know I am in agreement with you Zin, facts and verifiable figures need to be added for validity of the information. Although we know it to be fact, there are those who do not.


 

Gotta disagree here.  The purpose of the video is not to inform, it's to draw the viewer to the website.  The webpage has the facts and figures.  Video is meant catch your interest.  Compare it to the top related video on the page about inflation.  Full of facts and figures and dull as hell.  After about a minute, I get bored and quit watching.

Sargoth, the song falls under the "fair use" clause.  If not used for personal enrichment, it's OK apparently.  I wasn't sure about it myself, but every video is screened by Youtube software when it's uploaded.  If you've ever seen a video that has been muted, that means that the software caught a copyright violation and took out the song.  This video passed the screening, so it must be OK.

Edit:  Also, I experimented will several different font colors and the ones I used were the easiest ones to read.  Don't think there's much else I can do about it unless I use a larger font.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg

  Fishermage

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 7695

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/01/09 10:30:08 PM#13
Originally posted by Zindaihas
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Zindaihas

If those who are on the left are critical of it, I must have done something right.  Thanks guys.

 

The video is very right indeed.

But nevermind that. Keep telling yourself that a video with no facts and a bunch of pictures make for an informative video.

Mark it, for it may not happen for quite some time, but I have to agree with GL on this. While you know I am in agreement with you Zin, facts and verifiable figures need to be added for validity of the information. Although we know it to be fact, there are those who do not.


 

Gotta disagree here.  The purpose of the video is not to inform, it's to draw the viewer to the website.  The webpage has the facts and figures.  Video is meant catch your interest.  Compare it to the top related video on the page about inflation.  Full of facts and figures and dull as hell.  After about a minute, I get bored and quit watching.

Sargoth, the song falls under the "fair use" clause.  If not used for personal enrichment, it's OK apparently.  I wasn't sure about it myself, but every video is screened by Youtube software when it's uploaded.  If you've ever seen a video that has been muted, that means that the software caught a copyright violation and took out the song.  This video passed the screening, so it must be OK.

Edit:  Also, I experimented will several different font colors and the ones I used were the easiest ones to read.  Don't think there's much else I can do about it unless I use a larger font.

 

It seems I was one of the few who knew what he was watching. I took it as something for people who ALREADY KNOW hat you are talking about, not an attempt to convince anyone of anything.

It doesn't need any facts or figures -- I saw it as essentially an ad.

Maybe thicken the typeface to make it stand out, like select a BOLD?

  Gameloading

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Joined: 2/27/04
Posts: 14172

11/01/09 10:35:17 PM#14
Originally posted by Sargoth

The leftie is right though, you do need to put in some facts and figures.  Notice the leftie doesn't say anything to the contrary about what your saying, they can't argue that, so they will attack whatever else they can. 

Your text is too hard to read, the color does not stand out on some backgrounds.

I have no idea about this but I'm wondering, are you breaking any copyright by playing Pink Floyd in the background? 

Good vid.  We can always use another person preaching the truth since it gets corrupted so much these days. 

 

Yes that must be it. It couldn't possibly be because he actually wanted to provide criticism of the actual video even though there is nothing to actually argue with because the video has almost no content.

  Dekron

Old School

Joined: 10/01/03
Posts: 9504

11/01/09 11:24:34 PM#15
Originally posted by Zindaihas

Gotta disagree here.  The purpose of the video is not to inform, it's to draw the viewer to the website.

Ah. Makes sense then.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

  sepher

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Joined: 6/10/06
Posts: 3548

11/01/09 11:44:52 PM#16

Wow that was the most AWESOME, honest and self-descriptive exchange you all have ever had.

"Full of facts and figures and dull as hell. After about a minute, I get bored and quit watching."

"It doesn't need any facts or figures -- I saw it as essentially an ad."

"Ah. Makes sense then."

 

Only on "the right" can you just assert and say random shit, it be accepted while the facts and figures be considered merely secondary under ANY circumstances.

That said, I know how serious to take some of you now. Well, I already knew, but that's the first time the reasons not to were made so obvious.

  Fishermage

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 7695

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/01/09 11:52:57 PM#17

Looks like you must've hit pretty close to the mark Zind -- turned sepher into a blithering idiot.

Not that it was very hard to do, given what he has got to work with.

Good going, brother.

  Dekron

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Joined: 10/01/03
Posts: 9504

11/01/09 11:55:10 PM#18
Originally posted by sepher

Only on "the right" can you just assert and say random shit, it be accepted while the facts and figures be considered merely secondary under ANY circumstances.

That said, I know how serious to take some of you now. Well, I already knew, but that's the first time the reasons not to were made so obvious.

I think he made his point. An ad is an ad - it doesn't provide facts and figures. HE said himself it wasn't being used as an informative media, which, at first I thought he was. Hence my initial agreement with GL.

He was simply trying to draw in others to his site at the end. That should be the focus - whether that was effective or not.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

  Fishermage

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Joined: 11/23/05
Posts: 7695

"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

11/01/09 11:59:44 PM#19
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher

Only on "the right" can you just assert and say random shit, it be accepted while the facts and figures be considered merely secondary under ANY circumstances.

That said, I know how serious to take some of you now. Well, I already knew, but that's the first time the reasons not to were made so obvious.

I think he made his point. An ad is an ad - it doesn't provide facts and figures. HE said himself it wasn't being used as an informative media, which, at first I thought he was. Hence my initial agreement with GL.

He was simply trying to draw in others to his site at the end. That should be the focus - whether that was effective or not.

 

It certainly drove gameloading and sepher into attack mode -- thus it was pretty effective :)

  Dekron

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Joined: 10/01/03
Posts: 9504

11/02/09 12:03:56 AM#20
Originally posted by Fishermage
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by sepher

Only on "the right" can you just assert and say random shit, it be accepted while the facts and figures be considered merely secondary under ANY circumstances.

That said, I know how serious to take some of you now. Well, I already knew, but that's the first time the reasons not to were made so obvious.

I think he made his point. An ad is an ad - it doesn't provide facts and figures. HE said himself it wasn't being used as an informative media, which, at first I thought he was. Hence my initial agreement with GL.

He was simply trying to draw in others to his site at the end. That should be the focus - whether that was effective or not.

 

It certainly drove gameloading and sepher into attack mode -- thus it was pretty effective :)

Just think if it had actual numbers within.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

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