Originally posted by Krewel

F2P MMOs evolve faster than AoC.

Was this a serious response, or are you simply trying to stir the pot?

Honestly, it seems that you're trolling. Show me a free to play game aside from ddo, that is anything more than an asian grinder with decent production values, I might not think so. However I am not quite sure, such a game exists.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Krewel

WotLK is about to launch its 3rd major content update, meaning 3 tiers of pve and pvp content in a year, while AoC's latest patch is still fixing Vistrix and BRC, rofl.

 

Yeah and compare blizzards staff to FC's. Then compare the funding behind the two companies. Then compare the earnings between the two companies.

Honestly this is the epitome of comparing apples to oranges. Compare the patch cycle between WAR, AOC,  SWG, VG:SOH, FE or EVE online. You will notice you're far more in line with a reasonable comparison.

And yet they expect players to pay the same monthly fee as WoW. Honestly if companies want to stop being compared to WoW they need to stop charging the same price for less content. 

Originally posted by Oddbot

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Krewel

WotLK is about to launch its 3rd major content update, meaning 3 tiers of pve and pvp content in a year, while AoC's latest patch is still fixing Vistrix and BRC, rofl.

 

Yeah and compare blizzards staff to FC's. Then compare the funding behind the two companies. Then compare the earnings between the two companies.

Honestly this is the epitome of comparing apples to oranges. Compare the patch cycle between WAR, AOC,  SWG, VG:SOH, FE or EVE online. You will notice you're far more in line with a reasonable comparison.

And yet they expect players to pay the same monthly fee as WoW. Honestly if companies want to stop being compared to WoW they need to stop charging the same price for less content. 

I agree, since when is AOC implementing on the scale of or with the quality WOW is? I have never played WOW but obviously they have a much more successful playerbase than AOC. If FC was charging less monthly they would probably have more players around but only to a point. They need to supply a better product not increase demand by lowering their cost.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Krewel

WotLK is about to launch its 3rd major content update, meaning 3 tiers of pve and pvp content in a year, while AoC's latest patch is still fixing Vistrix and BRC, rofl.

 

Yeah and compare blizzards staff to FC's. Then compare the funding behind the two companies. Then compare the earnings between the two companies.

Honestly this is the epitome of comparing apples to oranges. Compare the patch cycle between WAR, AOC,  SWG, VG:SOH, FE or EVE online. You will notice you're far more in line with a reasonable comparison.

Just for the record, AoC actually charges 15 eur per month, while WoW 13 eur. So for 2 euros more I get ten times less content and ten times slower development process. Not my kind of logic.

And so what if they don't have enough resources? They're on the same market, same "ball park", the same is expected of them. I would accept a major content update every 6 months, I would compromise that much, but I as a paying customer simply cannot and will not accept the fact that for 15 eur per month I get no pve-content upgrade after more than a year. No, I don't call pve-content adding mid-level dungeons and one level 80 dungeon after a year. 

So, why shouldn't we compare one subscription-based MMO to another? Saying that Funcom has less money and "ability" to do what Blizz does only convinces me further not to play the game. I mean, imagine Funcom saying that - "pay 2 eur more and we give you less".

As I said, I left in October 2008 when I was already bored with BRC (even though I didn't get to see the whole raid then, ofc. The raid is just inherently boring, really lame design and encounters compared to WoW, imo) and extremely dull raids like Vistrix, Kyliki and Yakhmar (most of them didn't work properly then). And after more than a year still no tier 3, the game is still struggling with basic stuff like mid-game content (ok, that is finally out of the way, yay) and class/stat redesign.

I don't know, if someone finds a slower MMO when it comes to development, please let me know, I would really like to know the number of people playing that game.

Originally posted by Oddbot

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Krewel

WotLK is about to launch its 3rd major content update, meaning 3 tiers of pve and pvp content in a year, while AoC's latest patch is still fixing Vistrix and BRC, rofl.

 

Yeah and compare blizzards staff to FC's. Then compare the funding behind the two companies. Then compare the earnings between the two companies.

Honestly this is the epitome of comparing apples to oranges. Compare the patch cycle between WAR, AOC,  SWG, VG:SOH, FE or EVE online. You will notice you're far more in line with a reasonable comparison.

And yet they expect players to pay the same monthly fee as WoW. Honestly if companies want to stop being compared to WoW they need to stop charging the same price for less content. 

Yes, as does the rest of the games I mentioned. I can not say I agree though, considering wow is a five year old game. I would not expect to see the same amount of content. You are basically saying no game released recently should charge the normal fee associated with this genre. With that logic the price should scale with the amount of content a game offers. Meaning wow itself was overcharging in the beginning.

 But when WoW did release when comparing to what was out at that time, the game world was a beast.  And since then they have only added on top of that huge foundation.  The AoC "Foundation" is no where near the size it should have been upon release.  Which in turn causes updates to try and play catch-up with the competition.

Maybe want a comparison on how much content LotrO got in its first 14 months compared to AoC?

Originally posted by Papadam

Maybe want a comparison on how much content LotrO got in its first 14 months compared to AoC?

Want to know how much content SWG, had in comparison to AOC? How about WAR? This list could go on and on, this conversation could go on and on. As I have said time and time again, I am not defending AOC or FC I am not arguing they could not have offered more. I am not even saying AOC is worth 50 bucks.

What I am saying is if you want to complain about this game or that not releasing with the same amount of content as a game that has been in development for 5 years post production. You might as well wait for that company to relaese their next mmo, or their anticipated next expansion. Even then you will most likley have to voice the same complaint.