Some people's subscriptions renewed on 10/22, give a day or two.  Apparently, my account wasn't one of them, but I had already given in that I would pay for the first billing to give them time to fix some things before leaving.  The bots are completely out of control and until that issue is fixed, this will be the only payment they receive for my account or my husband's.

It's quite a disappointment to see the status on bots.  For those who truly enjoy the game and can tolerate them, best of luck to you.  I don't ever like to see games fail, but it is a reality of this industry.

Originally posted by Zyrena

Some people's subscriptions renewed on 10/22, give a day or two.  Apparently, my account wasn't one of them, but I had already given in that I would pay for the first billing to give them time to fix some things before leaving.  The bots are completely out of control and until that issue is fixed, this will be the only payment they receive for my account or my husband's.

It's quite a disappointment to see the status on bots.  For those who truly enjoy the game and can tolerate them, best of luck to you.  I don't ever like to see games fail, but it is a reality of this industry.

my experience with the game so far -- bots are a non-factor.  I have seen very few so far.  Maybe I am not paying attention, maybe I am clueless, but I am not noticing them.  They have never affected my gameplay in any manner that has been noticeable to me.  I respect the fact that for you its a big issue -- I am just saying, I dont see it -- at all.
 

On the flip side, if the crashes are not fixed I will eventually cancel.  Now that, is something that I do notice -- that is something that affects my gameplay.  Bots ? -- nope, not at all.  In fact I think the problem with bots is being blown way out of proportion.\\

To put this into some sort of perspective, at one point in the game I was not in a guild and had to level up extraction.  I found a node to harvest.  I received a phone call from a friend and stood by the node, talked on the phone and harvested when it respawned.  Over the course of about an hour of doing this, a player kept coming up to me, not saying a word, would watch me, run off, grind some mobs and come back.  Eventually they whispered me "Hi."  I responded with a hello and asked them how they were doing today...They never answered and I never saw them again.  So, basically think there are some bots out there, but its not as big of a problem as people think and many people think alot of legit players are bots.

Originally posted by Tyvolus1 

my experience with the game so far -- bots are a non-factor.  I have seen very few so far.  Maybe I am not paying attention, maybe I am clueless, but I am not noticing them.  They have never affected my gameplay in any manner that has been noticeable to me.  I respect the fact that for you its a big issue -- I am just saying, I dont see it -- at all.
 

On the flip side, if the crashes are not fixed I will eventually cancel.  Now that, is something that I do notice -- that is something that affects my gameplay.  Bots ? -- nope, not at all.  In fact I think the problem with bots is being blown way out of proportion.\\

To put this into some sort of perspective, at one point in the game I was not in a guild and had to level up extraction.  I found a node to harvest.  I received a phone call from a friend and stood by the node, talked on the phone and harvested when it respawned.  Over the course of about an hour of doing this, a player kept coming up to me, not saying a word, would watch me, run off, grind some mobs and come back.  Eventually they whispered me "Hi."  I responded with a hello and asked them how they were doing today...They never answered and I never saw them again.  So, basically think there are some bots out there, but its not as big of a problem as people think and many people think alot of legit players are bots.

While I respect your opinion, the bots are a HUGE issue. Allow me to explain why -

First off, bots ruin your gameplay experience. I dare you to go to Theobomos or Brusthonin right now, and then say to me that there aren't at least 100 bots there. And if you need a quest mob that's in a location that a bunch of bots are, good luck getting it done in an hour.

Second, they get massive amounts of drops. While most people are lucky to get a few blues as drops when they solo, bots will be selling 8 gold items that they got as drops. And they sell each one for millions and millions of kinah. Who can afford spending 10 mil for a gold cuirass at level 35? I'll tell you who can - someone who buys kinah with RL money. So the bots sell the item, get 10 mil kinah and then turn around and sell that kinah to some other cheater who buys it with rl money.

Lastly, a lot of the "top" legions botted their way to the top. So if you, a legit player, ever had any hopes of competing against them, then that chance is gone. They are already way ahead of you, and by the time you hit 50, they will be fully decked out in gold abyss gear and will destroy you in pvp. I've been wrecked by someone who bought a ton of gold items (obvious gold buyer) and let me tell you, its NOT fun when a cheater kills you so easily.

Aion could have been such a great game, that's the saddest part of all. I really loved the beta but the bots and excessive cheating in general totally killed the game already imo.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Slythe

While I respect your opinion, the bots are a HUGE issue. Allow me to explain why -

First off, bots ruin your gameplay experience. I dare you to go to Theobomos or Brusthonin right now, and then say to me that there aren't at least 100 bots there. And if you need a quest mob that's in a location that a bunch of bots are, good luck getting it done in an hour.

Second, they get massive amounts of drops. While most people are lucky to get a few blues as drops when they solo, bots will be selling 8 gold items that they got as drops. And they sell each one for millions and millions of kinah. Who can afford spending 10 mil for a gold cuirass at level 35? I'll tell you who can - someone who buys kinah with RL money. So the bots sell the item, get 10 mil kinah and then turn around and sell that kinah to some other cheater who buys it with rl money.

Lastly, a lot of the "top" legions botted their way to the top. So if you, a legit player, ever had any hopes of competing against them, then that chance is gone. They are already way ahead of you, and by the time you hit 50, they will be fully decked out in gold abyss gear and will destroy you in pvp. I've been wrecked by someone who bought a ton of gold items (obvious gold buyer) and let me tell you, its NOT fun when a cheater kills you so easily.

Aion could have been such a great game, that's the saddest part of all. I really loved the beta but the bots and excessive cheating in general totally killed the game already imo.

 

Apparently you need 40.000.000 experience points to level from 40 to 41 ...Is that true?

Is that the sign of a "great game"?

Just a question, but have you calculated once how many mobs you have to (slowly) kill to get those 40.000.000 points.

And after you go to 41, the next level is ... 44.000.000 something ?

It's not the "ultimate" to just have an extra level is it?

Just asking, because I wonder if ... that is fun?

Aren't you taking the bots as a scape goat to ignore rather more boring game designs underneath (like the terri bad drops of boss loot etc...).

As an outsider these above things don't look any good to have in " a great game". Who wants to bash the heads of 10.000 mobs to add just one more level? Of course having to endure this WITH an extra bot plague is very annoying, but is the game really that sound anyway?

 

Oh please, are you still posting?

You do realize that the exp needed to level is NOT a negative? In your opinion (and most of the WoW fanbois as well) it is, but opinion =/= truth. Aion was designed this way, it was never meant to be a WoW clone, if you want that then stick to WoW.

Believe it or not a lot of people actually enjoy grinding mobs much more than questing. They don't wanna insta-lvl50, but want the journey to take more time. This is not a negative, it's just different. Whereas WoW starts its instance-fest endgame... at endgame, it is not so in Aion.

Same with the boss loot drops. While you prefer to have loot drop on every single boss kill, others do NOT want that.

Sometimes you're just too full of yourself thinking your "opinion" is the be all end all. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't.

Canceled

Cancelled

My game time already ran out... but thanks for the reminder.

i lol at everything in this thread.. 30 minutes wasted really but i feel i should give my oppion. BOTS are there yes.. but if your smart, youll move away from them and be laughing in ur head as they run back to the same spot OVER AND OVER again and sit down..  oh and if u want a real Good time. Roll a Sorc. find a bot. KS from that bot for an hour.. ITS ENDLESS FUN, i trolled this bot for over an hour the guy came back and flipped out on me for fucking up his botting. I just lold as i reported him a 2nd time. GUESS WHAT HE GOT BANNED... so i do believe that cancles ur arguments that NCsoft isnt doing shit cuz they are.. Triniel is the server im on and Reporting makes a difference... only problem is in main towns where u cant auto hunt ...

next issue.. the 40 million EXP ur talking about WTF DO U EXPECT YOUR NOW 4/5 OF CAP LEVEL IF U INSTA LEVEL ITS NOT A GOOD GAME... no final levels should be instant.. you should need to TRAIN, AND WORK for it.. 

srsly i just reached 35 and it was a breath of fresh air as i requiped my self with all my beautiful golds and blues and greens ive been working for in FT for those 5 levels.. it was such a reward for finaly making it to 35.. when i hit 37 its gonna be beautiful to.. and if ur dumb enough to GRIND 1 mob all day long.. ur ruining your own experience.. i have yet to be bored.. i have tons of stuff to do at 35.. Fort instances, sieges, Enemy gaurd killing, gank parties, normal instance, Quests, Crafting, Chilling with friend planning some diabolical scheme to piss of asmodians... OH and when i get start to feel like im doing something TEDIOUS... i go and do something new OR go play one of my fast Action games i have like S4 League. or CS:S seriously if ur gonna play a MMORPG u need a fast action game to go along with it IMO cause that will make the MMORPG feel fresh everytime.

now im not saying there arnt problems.. crashes( SOOOO ANNOYING) but will be fixed soon , gold spammers, which ALMOST dont exist any more in /3 or /1  or /2 or /4 or whaterver / u use, (atleast in triniel) bots they do exist but if ur smart u can turn them into a game ( get a group of 6 and troll his kills)  and this new reward system for playing longer is a beautiful Idea IMO if u have been playing for 6 months u should be rewarded as a faithful customer IMO

.... think i covered most, k im gonna go gank some asmodians have a good day

Originally posted by Electriceye

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Slythe

 

Apparently you need 40.000.000 experience points to level from 40 to 41 ...Is that true?

Is that the sign of a "great game"?

Just a question, but have you calculated once how many mobs you have to (slowly) kill to get those 40.000.000 points.

And after you go to 41, the next level is ... 44.000.000 something ?

It's not the "ultimate" to just have an extra level is it?

Just asking, because I wonder if ... that is fun?

Aren't you taking the bots as a scape goat to ignore rather more boring game designs underneath (like the terri bad drops of boss loot etc...).

As an outsider these above things don't look any good to have in " a great game". Who wants to bash the heads of 10.000 mobs to add just one more level? Of course having to endure this WITH an extra bot plague is very annoying, but is the game really that sound anyway?

 

Oh please, are you still posting?

You do realize that the exp needed to level is NOT a negative? In your opinion (and most of the WoW fanbois as well) it is, but opinion =/= truth. Aion was designed this way, it was never meant to be a WoW clone, if you want that then stick to WoW.

Believe it or not a lot of people actually enjoy grinding mobs much more than questing. They don't wanna insta-lvl50, but want the journey to take more time. This is not a negative, it's just different. Whereas WoW starts its instance-fest endgame... at endgame, it is not so in Aion.

Same with the boss loot drops. While you prefer to have loot drop on every single boss kill, others do NOT want that.

 

Sometimes you're just too full of yourself thinking your "opinion" is the be all end all. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't.

 

But the 40 Millions!!!! Its a FACT that level 40 requires more than 40M xp, so his completely unrelated implication of a boring and mindless grind is proven und undeniable! 40 Million is a big number therefore Aion has anyoing and boring grind!

Just calculate with the facts!

In Aion 40-41 (4/5th of levelcap) requires 42 Million XP. A monsterkill in WoW on 64 (4/5th of levelcap) rewards you with just 555 XP. Thats like 70.000 Monsterkills for just one level!!! How can that be enjoyable?!?

Who cares if at the same level a level 12 monster in Aion allready provides more XP points than a 80 monster in WoW. Or if you get so much xp points from quests you could pop up from 1 to 60 in WoW with the rewards of turining in just two average lvl 40 Aionquests. Or 1 to 70 with just the xp rewards of that one single Dark Poeta Mission. 40 Milleeeens!!!

amazing how you have all this money. im lvl 3o and ive had to scrimp and save everything just to even get my spellbooks drops are almost non existent if i make 100k im really lucky .cant even lvl my crafting skills death costs so much im actually almost a lvl behind cuz i cant afford to pay the soul healer anymore. all my armor is white what are blues and greens those things cost well more then what they are truly worth i feel. bots that wipe out everything leaving you trying to figure out how to complete a quest you have had since lvl 27 and even better gladiators that wait for you to start attacking a creature just to run up and snake it from you since he does more damage leaving you with little health and nothing to show for it . instances where you walk away empty handed and have to wait 17 hours to try again and i never even bothered with the abyss 5 mins out and your wiped  by 4-5 asmos before you even know what hit you sure thats going to happen but usually i like to be able to move and attack which when attacked gets so lagged up by the time you know what has happened your dead .so no canceled my sub and at the end of the month im going back to lotro i honestly tryed to enjoy the game but the many issues with it have made me not even want to bother and the fanboys act like nothing is wrong which is laughable at best since just cuz you act like nothings wrong doesnt mean there isnt anything wrong.

there thats as good as it gets i dont think in punctuation so i dont type that way either my bad

Originally posted by joker007mo

amazing how you have all this money im lvl 3o and ive had to scrimp and save everything just to even get my spellbooks drops are almost non existent if i make 100k im really lucky cant even lvl my crafting skills death costs so much im actually almost a lvl behind cuz i cant afford to pay the soul healer anymore all my armor is white what are blues and greens those things cost well more then what they are truly worth i feel bots that wipe out everything leaving you trying to figure out how to complete a quest you have had since lvl 27 and even better gladiators that wait for you to start attacking a creature just to run up and snake it from you since he does more damage leaving you with little health and nothing to show for it  instances where you walk away empty handed and have to wait 17 hours to try again and i never even bothered with the abyss 5 mins out and your wiped  by 4-5 asmos before you even know what hit you sure thats going to happen but usally i like to be able to move and attack which when attacked gets so lagged up by the time you know what has happened your dead so no canceled my sub and at the end of the month im going back to lotro i honestly tryed to enjoy the game but the many issues with it have made me not even want to bother and the fanboys act like nothing is wrong which is laughable at best since just cuz you act like nothings wrong doesnt mean there isnt anything wrong

I was going to reply to your post... but seriously, not ONE period?

Not one? Really? 

When you fix that disaster of a post I may comment... 

 I too cancelled Aion recently. It just isn't fun. And for those of you who are dumb enough to actually downplay the existence of the bots, and say well, this and that, blah and blah, about them...

No. You're retarded. Bots are not in the design of this game, and they should under no circumstances be allowed to kill shit that people need for quests and ruin the game for other people. Period. And NCSoft's lack of action has caused people to cancel. It's as simple as that. Aion will turn into a niche game just like WAR, Age of Conan, etc.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. It had its chance, it's failed, time to move on.

yes ncsoft is really doing a shitty job at dealing with things. they are nowhere to be seen except to spam you more then the gold spammers with either dont go to links other then aion.com which all in all ncsoft has always been bad at customer support period. dont ever lose your password cuz if you got to call ncsoft youll have to give every key to every game you have in order to get it reset and i mean that every cd key from every ncsoft game you own all of the gw games and coh/v so yea it was a very painful process all so i could get a stupid storage unit in gw

Originally posted by joker007mo

amazing how you have all this money. im lvl 3o and ive had to scrimp and save everything just to even get my spellbooks drops are almost non existent if i make 100k im really lucky .cant even lvl my crafting skills death costs so much im actually almost a lvl behind cuz i cant afford to pay the soul healer anymore. all my armor is white what are blues and greens those things cost well more then what they are truly worth i feel. bots that wipe out everything leaving you trying to figure out how to complete a quest you have had since lvl 27 and even better gladiators that wait for you to start attacking a creature just to run up and snake it from you since he does more damage leaving you with little health and nothing to show for it . instances where you walk away empty handed and have to wait 17 hours to try again and i never even bothered with the abyss 5 mins out and your wiped  by 4-5 asmos before you even know what hit you sure thats going to happen but usually i like to be able to move and attack which when attacked gets so lagged up by the time you know what has happened your dead .so no canceled my sub and at the end of the month im going back to lotro i honestly tryed to enjoy the game but the many issues with it have made me not even want to bother and the fanboys act like nothing is wrong which is laughable at best since just cuz you act like nothings wrong doesnt mean there isnt anything wrong.

there thats as good as it gets i dont think in punctuation so i dont type that way either my bad

I would suggest you drop your sub ASAP and play something different, more fitting.