Whats the pet system like? Will pets have their own inventory, equipment, abilities, skills and stats?

I couldnt find much information on their official website, so im hoping someone in beta could shed some light now that NDA is lifted.

tks.

Doesn't seem to...  Soldier, magus, ranger, healer are the only classes.  The only possibility would be the ranger but I'm thinking they don't have pets.

Beta participants were waiting on the Ranger pets to be incorporated then about a month ago we were told Ranger pets were being scrapped and pets were going to be moved to another class. Sounds like they weren't working correctly.

So at launch, no pets. They'll be ingame when the class that can use them is added according to QOL.

There are no pet classes at present, the ranger is more of a "druid" type class, with tanking healing or dps options.

There will be a pet class later though. (My guess is the warden for pet class)

Why do people compare a ranger to a druid?  Rangers are bow fighters with melee abilities and bit of tank ability and a bit of healing and bufs...  Druids are more casters with nature based spells and some healing.

Rather then think myopically about wow think more about traditional fantasy.   Seems to me that Alganon is implementing the ranger more like eq then wow?

Originally posted by ethion

Rather then think myopically about wow think more about traditional fantasy.   Seems to me that Alganon is implementing the ranger more like eq then wow?

Because WOW has the hunter, not the ranger.

Originally posted by ethion

Why do people compare a ranger to a druid?  Rangers are bow fighters with melee abilities and bit of tank ability and a bit of healing and bufs...  Druids are more casters with nature based spells and some healing.

Rather then think myopically about wow think more about traditional fantasy.   Seems to me that Alganon is implementing the ranger more like eq then wow?

I used the druid example purely because many people have it in their heads that ranger = hunter from WoW, so therefore, the best comparison from that game is: Druid from WoW.

Alganon has more the EQ/LOTRO type ranger than the WoW hunter type.

Hence I think Warden will be the pet class, like in EQ2

Originally posted by Rhiaden

Originally posted by ethion

Why do people compare a ranger to a druid?  Rangers are bow fighters with melee abilities and bit of tank ability and a bit of healing and bufs...  Druids are more casters with nature based spells and some healing.

Rather then think myopically about wow think more about traditional fantasy.   Seems to me that Alganon is implementing the ranger more like eq then wow?

 

I used the druid example purely because many people have it in their heads that ranger = hunter from WoW, so therefore, the best comparison from that game is: Druid from WoW.

 

Alganon has more the EQ/LOTRO type ranger than the WoW hunter type.

 

Hence I think Warden will be the pet class, like in EQ2

Warden in eq2 isn't a pet class... it is a druid style class although not a druid like wow.  druids in eq world are healer/casters.

Ranger in Alganon is nothing like a druid in wow... there isn't any shape changing or ability changes nor is there any reason to expect that the alganon ranger specing defensive abilities is going to become a real tank...

Personally I think people are going a bit overboard.  The game looks like wow, ui is like wow, lots is like wow.  But it looks like some things are a bit different for classes.  The Alganon ranger is not like any class in wow but more like eq rangers.

Originally posted by ethion

 Warden in eq2 isn't a pet class... it is a druid style class although not a druid like wow.  druids in eq world are healer/casters.

Ranger in Alganon is nothing like a druid in wow... there isn't any shape changing or ability changes nor is there any reason to expect that the alganon ranger specing defensive abilities is going to become a real tank...

Personally I think people are going a bit overboard.  The game looks like wow, ui is like wow, lots is like wow.  But it looks like some things are a bit different for classes.  The Alganon ranger is not like any class in wow but more like eq rangers.

Rangers in Alganon are nothing like Druids in WoW if you are a blind sheep unable to see past your own nose. Rangers are exactly like Druids in WoW, the difference is that Rangers use Bows? That is all, oh and they don't shape shift but to say "nor is there any reason to expect that the alganon ranger specing defensive abilities is going to become a real tank..." is about as terrible a lie as possible. Why bother speccing that way if you can't tank? Because doing inferior damage is great? Give me a break. Oh and straight from the Horses mouth:

"Guardianship

Survival in the wilds of Alganon is not easy, and many Rangers learn to survive in the wilds by taking on the defensive abilities of the beasts of the forest. A Guardianship Ranger specializes in improving their own defensive nature so as to increase their own survivability and defend their allies against enemy attack."

"# If you need a tank - you know that any soldier can fill that role. You do not have to ask "what is your spec?" to everyone you see - just invite a soldier.
# However, soldiers are not the only tanks! You can also bring a Frost Magus, or a Guardianship Ranger! "

So why would anyone assume that you could tank as a ranger? So they heal, Druids heal, they can do ranged damage, druids do ranged damage, they can tank, druids can tank. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Originally posted by phitch

Originally posted by ethion

 Warden in eq2 isn't a pet class... it is a druid style class although not a druid like wow.  druids in eq world are healer/casters.

Ranger in Alganon is nothing like a druid in wow... there isn't any shape changing or ability changes nor is there any reason to expect that the alganon ranger specing defensive abilities is going to become a real tank...

Personally I think people are going a bit overboard.  The game looks like wow, ui is like wow, lots is like wow.  But it looks like some things are a bit different for classes.  The Alganon ranger is not like any class in wow but more like eq rangers.

 

Rangers in Alganon are nothing like Druids in WoW if you are a blind sheep unable to see past your own nose. Rangers are exactly like Druids in WoW, the difference is that Rangers use Bows? That is all, oh and they don't shape shift but to say "nor is there any reason to expect that the alganon ranger specing defensive abilities is going to become a real tank..." is about as terrible a lie as possible. Why bother speccing that way if you can't tank? Because doing inferior damage is great? Give me a break. Oh and straight from the Horses mouth:

"Guardianship

Survival in the wilds of Alganon is not easy, and many Rangers learn to survive in the wilds by taking on the defensive abilities of the beasts of the forest. A Guardianship Ranger specializes in improving their own defensive nature so as to increase their own survivability and defend their allies against enemy attack."

 

"# If you need a tank - you know that any soldier can fill that role. You do not have to ask "what is your spec?" to everyone you see - just invite a soldier.
# However, soldiers are not the only tanks! You can also bring a Frost Magus, or a Guardianship Ranger! "

So why would anyone assume that you could tank as a ranger? So they heal, Druids heal, they can do ranged damage, druids do ranged damage, they can tank, druids can tank. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

I'm just saying it matches a eq ranger much better then a wow druid...  I think this game is pretty poor and rips off wow in many ways.  I'm giving them a little credit for making classes that are based more on traditional fantasy rather then on wow.

If there is no pet, they will be empty, 50% of mmorpg players plays a class pet with as main or an alter on the rest of the mmo games.

Originally posted by ethion

 

I'm just saying it matches a eq ranger much better then a wow druid...  I think this game is pretty poor and rips off wow in many ways.  I'm giving them a little credit for making classes that are based more on traditional fantasy rather then on wow.

Rangers couldn't tank in EQ, so that is one mark off the "it matches eq ranger better then a wow druid..." hypothesis. But lets go down this road -- EQ ranger can't tank, WoW Druid can. EQ Ranger couldn't really heal, but the Alganon one is going to be a main/group healer -- just like a Druid from WoW. Rangers can do ranged damage, just like a Balance Druid in WoW. Essentially you are stuck on it being like an EQ ranger because it can use a bow, even if none of it's skills are comparable.

Originally posted by TheDarzin

Originally posted by ethion

 

I'm just saying it matches a eq ranger much better then a wow druid...  I think this game is pretty poor and rips off wow in many ways.  I'm giving them a little credit for making classes that are based more on traditional fantasy rather then on wow.

 

Rangers couldn't tank in EQ, so that is one mark off the "it matches eq ranger better then a wow druid..." hypothesis. But lets go down this road -- EQ ranger can't tank, WoW Druid can. EQ Ranger couldn't really heal, but the Alganon one is going to be a main/group healer -- just like a Druid from WoW. Rangers can do ranged damage, just like a Balance Druid in WoW. Essentially you are stuck on it being like an EQ ranger because it can use a bow, even if none of it's skills are comparable.

It is all a question of magnitude...

I didn't play the ranger in Alganon for very long so maybe at high lvls you are right...

But my impression is that the Alganon ranger is a weak tank, and has weak healing.  Just like eq.  In eq a ranger could tank normal mobs although not very well, but certainly better then any non tank class.  I used to play with a ranger tanking in one of the planes.  Rangers had minor heals, not enough to be a healer for sure but it gave them some flavor.  A ranger in eq2 was kinda like a hybrid melee druid that did ranged dps with a bow.

Now on the surface looking at the alganon ranger and the talent trees I didn't see anything that implied to me that they would dramatically be comparable to a real tank nore could they be all things.  They have 3 trees and they can emphasis tanking, dps, or magic. 

They play nothing like a druid.  They don't shape change. They don't assume the identity of a different class.  But you are entitled to your opinion.  For me this is more like an eq ranger.  I seriously doubt you will ever see a ranger as a group healer or main tank especially for group content named or whatever.  You might see them doing some off tanking or you might see them doing a spot heal or hot.  But hey without playing the game a lot more then I did I'm only guessing based on my experience playing a few levels and looking through the skills and tallent tree options. 

Please, don't change the theme of this original Message:

does alganon have a pet class?

Thanks

PD: I love EQ but we are talking about Alganon Pets

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by TheDarzin

Originally posted by ethion

 

I'm just saying it matches a eq ranger much better then a wow druid...  I think this game is pretty poor and rips off wow in many ways.  I'm giving them a little credit for making classes that are based more on traditional fantasy rather then on wow.

 

Rangers couldn't tank in EQ, so that is one mark off the "it matches eq ranger better then a wow druid..." hypothesis. But lets go down this road -- EQ ranger can't tank, WoW Druid can. EQ Ranger couldn't really heal, but the Alganon one is going to be a main/group healer -- just like a Druid from WoW. Rangers can do ranged damage, just like a Balance Druid in WoW. Essentially you are stuck on it being like an EQ ranger because it can use a bow, even if none of it's skills are comparable.

 

It is all a question of magnitude...

I didn't play the ranger in Alganon for very long so maybe at high lvls you are right...

But my impression is that the Alganon ranger is a weak tank, and has weak healing.  Just like eq.  In eq a ranger could tank normal mobs although not very well, but certainly better then any non tank class.  I used to play with a ranger tanking in one of the planes.  Rangers had minor heals, not enough to be a healer for sure but it gave them some flavor.  A ranger in eq2 was kinda like a hybrid melee druid that did ranged dps with a bow.

Now on the surface looking at the alganon ranger and the talent trees I didn't see anything that implied to me that they would dramatically be comparable to a real tank nore could they be all things.  They have 3 trees and they can emphasis tanking, dps, or magic. 

They play nothing like a druid.  They don't shape change. They don't assume the identity of a different class.  But you are entitled to your opinion.  For me this is more like an eq ranger.  I seriously doubt you will ever see a ranger as a group healer or main tank especially for group content named or whatever.  You might see them doing some off tanking or you might see them doing a spot heal or hot.  But hey without playing the game a lot more then I did I'm only guessing based on my experience playing a few levels and looking through the skills and tallent tree options. 

They play nothing like a druid, because they use a bow... now the question: if they won't ever be tanks or healers what is the point of having 2 trees and numerous statements contrary to what you just said? Oh, because you didn't play the class long enough. Rangers are non-shape changing druids, they can main tank and main heal. That comes directly from QoL, not from me. That was the intention of the dual-role system. But for the sake of argument, the last talent of the Ranger Healing tree: Restore -- Heals a target to your maximum health. Every talent increases healing and spell power in that tree. The tanking tree is similar, with a lot of mitigation and threat gen talents. But hey, we can all close our eyes look at one tree, declare the rest useless and say "it's just like the EQ ranger!"

Originally posted by lirika

Please, don't change the theme of this original Message:

does alganon have a pet class?

Thanks

 

PD: I love EQ but we are talking about Alganon Pets

I repeat, dont change the teme of the post please, just create a new one.

Originally posted by lirika

If there is no pet, they will be empty, 50% of mmorpg players plays a class pet with as main or an alter on the rest of the mmo games.

 

I always treat partymembers as pets. Win-Win situation!

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by lirika

If there is no pet, they will be empty, 50% of mmorpg players plays a class pet with as main or an alter on the rest of the mmo games.

 

I always treat partymembers as pets. Win-Win situation!

That made me chuckle....