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  Distopia

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If it contains the words video and game, it must be a WOW clone.

 
10/26/09 1:53:19 PM#21
Originally posted by RoosterNash
Originally posted by kakarotrage
Originally posted by Edmund_Duke

Oh yea, there'll be a big one coming.  They'll call it Starcraft Online.


 

You're wrong on so many levels,

Really.. you should be banned from this board.


 

What? This person is wrong on WHAT levels exactly? The post is clearly a joke. And a ban? And you're the OP? Come on, man... really?

Actually I'm the OP:).

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  RoosterNash

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10/26/09 1:57:39 PM#22
Originally posted by Malickie
Originally posted by RoosterNash
Originally posted by kakarotrage
Originally posted by Edmund_Duke

Oh yea, there'll be a big one coming.  They'll call it Starcraft Online.


 

You're wrong on so many levels,

Really.. you should be banned from this board.


 

What? This person is wrong on WHAT levels exactly? The post is clearly a joke. And a ban? And you're the OP? Come on, man... really?

Actually I'm the OP:).

Oh, a case of mistaken identities! Your names are so similar ;D
 

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  Gkarn

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If it was that easy, everyone would do it.

10/26/09 2:01:42 PM#23

A long time ago when Doom was the talk of the town. I remember reading a PC gaming mag and a writer (yes a person wrote the magazine, not emailed), and said “that it would be awesome if there was a game that had 10,000 people in it”. The editor or the author responded that it would never happen. I thought to myself, oh yes it will happen.

So going to respond to this thread and say it again, “ It will happen”!

I’ll trump you and say there will be games in the future that will double WoW’s population. Current estimates for PC gamers are 200 million plus.
 

  Palebane

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10/26/09 2:02:38 PM#24
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.


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  RoosterNash

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10/26/09 2:13:05 PM#25
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.


 

Having paid a close attention to the development and evolution of the video game industry and MMOs in particular, I say NEVER SAY NEVER!!

But then again, none of us can see the future, and while predicting it is fun, it always leads to someone being wrong. That person, as history has taught us, is ALWAYS the person that says "Never gonna happen."

THE Rooster Nash

  Sauronas

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Joined: 9/14/09
Posts: 187

10/26/09 2:17:22 PM#26

Right now mmos are designed by bean counters and corporate scumbags that only care about how much money they can make and not on the impact they can make.  Most of them never played an mmo in their life and if they did, it was wow.   When the genre crashes due to these greedy morons they'll move on and the developers will have control over the games they make not trust fund venture capitalists.

  Cecropia

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10/26/09 2:18:06 PM#27

The sky really is the limit here as technology continues pushing forward. There is always the possibility that WOW will be looked at as the "heyday" of MMOs. Their subs are just on that level. Plain and simple. But none of us are fortune tellers, so who's to say it can't happen again.

Either way I'm incredibly excited for the coming next few years. At some point I'm sure WOW will start dropping numbers to a degree noticeable by even the most stubborn of fans. I am also aware the game will be around for long, long after that. I'm not blind. But someday when the piece of pie starts to shrink, think of all the other games new and old alike that will start showing decent signs of growth.

Imagine how great it will be when we don't have one single game hogging the majority of fans.

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  mmaize

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Posts: 224

10/26/09 2:18:24 PM#28
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.

No it wasn't a freak of nature, it was simply the biggest thing to come into a scene with little to no competition at the time.  It was the latest and greatest to come in against what?  EQ? AC? DAoC? UO?  Most of those games were either dying or hanging on to players just because they didn't like the competition.  All of those fell within the same genre but each was lacking something the other had.  WoW consolidated alot of that (Although yes they took that content by copying many of the previous examples) and gave it a nice story line, did a good job of balancing pve and pvp content, had mounts flying or otherwise (everyone loves a mount), had a sizeable world, had the Blizzard name behind it (big following), etc. 
 

The largest problem today that MMOs face is the competition because is divides the pie up that much more which means you'd have to offer something even more broad and encompassing than it's predecessors and that's AFTER you have many of the things going for you that were mentioned in WoW...(Company with a great reputation, polished game, etc.)  This is the issue facing Aion and others coming out after...sure you can be polished until you're a beacon of light, but unless you are bringing something completely new that makes everyone look at it like a second sun just rose up in the sky, then you're having to compete for an already spread out player base.

  toddze

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10/26/09 2:19:01 PM#29

For me there is. Its FFXIV. Every MMO that releases is someones "next big one" Just wait until blizzard unveils their next MMO theres going to be all kind of blizzard fans running around claimeing that its the second coming of jesus. Personnly I couldnt care less unless they make a complete 360 on their gaming philosiphy (sp).

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  mmaize

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Joined: 7/23/09
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10/26/09 2:20:21 PM#30
Originally posted by toddze

For me there is. Its FFXIV. Every MMO that releases is someones "next big one" Just wait until blizzard unveils their next MMO theres going to be all kind of blizzard fans running around claimeing that its the second coming of jesus. Personnly I couldnt care less unless they make a complete 360 on their gaming philosiphy (sp).


 

That made me lol irl.

  TdogSkal

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10/26/09 2:22:30 PM#31

You should have learned that you should never say never.  Never is one of those words that should not be used lightly.

I agree that it is very unlikly we will ever see the "next big one" but you cannot say never because nobody knows what the future holds.

Sooner or Later

  Astralglide

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10/26/09 2:26:36 PM#32
Originally posted by RoosterNash
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.


 

Having paid a close attention to the development and evolution of the video game industry and MMOs in particular, I say NEVER SAY NEVER!!

But then again, none of us can see the future, and while predicting it is fun, it always leads to someone being wrong. That person, as history has taught us, is ALWAYS the person that says "Never gonna happen."

Just remember two things:

1) People said that there would never be a bigger MMO than Ultima Online 10 years ago.

2) Starcraft Universe Anybody? ;)

A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire

  Illyssia

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Joined: 8/10/09
Posts: 1130

10/26/09 2:55:38 PM#33
Originally posted by Astralglide
Originally posted by RoosterNash
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.


 

Having paid a close attention to the development and evolution of the video game industry and MMOs in particular, I say NEVER SAY NEVER!!

But then again, none of us can see the future, and while predicting it is fun, it always leads to someone being wrong. That person, as history has taught us, is ALWAYS the person that says "Never gonna happen."

Just remember two things:

1) People said that there would never be a bigger MMO than Ultima Online 10 years ago.

2) Starcraft Universe Anybody? ;)

 

People say a lot of things now about UO, but WoW has been big (1 million plus subs) for many years, unlike UO, which seems to be pitched by EA at a retro-game niche market, yes they are obviously developing still for that and it must make them money somehow or other. Might also be worth considering that Blizzard have stated that their next gen mmo won't be based on Diablo or Starcraft, and that makes sense considering they are releasing these (and their expansion) over the timeline during which next gen mmo will gradually emerge, I'd bet we get a name next year from them. Best to play games at face value and move on when they get dull, I don't play either UO or WoW today.

  Edmund_Duke

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Joined: 10/26/09
Posts: 10

Well?!

10/26/09 3:02:20 PM#34


Originally posted by Astralglide

Just remember two things:
1) People said that there would never be a bigger MMO than Ultima Online 10 years ago.
2) Starcraft Universe Anybody? ;)


 
Should work!

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  Astralglide

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10/26/09 3:17:17 PM#35
Originally posted by Illyssia
Originally posted by Astralglide
Originally posted by RoosterNash
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by luckturtz

They will never be a shooter bigger than Quake.They never be a MMO bigger than EQ.They will never be a game bigger than super mario 1.

This topic flat out stupid.WoW is not even well know property and it has 11 million subs.They are facebook games that have around 30 million people.There is not mmo cross over between Xbox,PS3 and PC that would be huge and it is possibility of that.You put a well known property like a star wars,lotr,harry potter and make great game watch happens.If nintendo stop being stupid and decided to make a pokemon mmo what type of numbers will think that will have.Then their is the "WoW factor" where something comes from no where and is huge.

WoW is not the peak.Trust me they will be bigger games.

 

 

I dont think any game will ever achieve WoW's numbers in my lifetime. WoW is a freak of nature.


 

Having paid a close attention to the development and evolution of the video game industry and MMOs in particular, I say NEVER SAY NEVER!!

But then again, none of us can see the future, and while predicting it is fun, it always leads to someone being wrong. That person, as history has taught us, is ALWAYS the person that says "Never gonna happen."

Just remember two things:

1) People said that there would never be a bigger MMO than Ultima Online 10 years ago.

2) Starcraft Universe Anybody? ;)

 

People say a lot of things now about UO, but WoW has been big (1 million plus subs) for many years, unlike UO, which seems to be pitched by EA at a retro-game niche market, yes they are obviously developing still for that and it must make them money somehow or other. Might also be worth considering that Blizzard have stated that their next gen mmo won't be based on Diablo or Starcraft, and that makes sense considering they are releasing these (and their expansion) over the timeline during which next gen mmo will gradually emerge, I'd bet we get a name next year from them. Best to play games at face value and move on when they get dull, I don't play either UO or WoW today.

Don't confuse issues with your "facts".  I want to live in my fantasy world where Starcraft Universe will exist :P Ty for the response, I hadn't read that. I will definately give Blizzard's next MMO a shot though.

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  Gkarn

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If it was that easy, everyone would do it.

10/26/09 4:44:31 PM#36
Originally posted by toddze

For me there is. Its FFXIV. Every MMO that releases is someones "next big one" Just wait until blizzard unveils their next MMO theres going to be all kind of blizzard fans running around claimeing that its the second coming of jesus. Personnly I couldnt care less unless they make a complete 360 on their gaming philosiphy (sp).

 

You mean 180.  Because 360 would be right back where they were in the first place.

  Deien

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10/26/09 4:51:30 PM#37

There will be a next big one. When it will come out who knows, but there will be one.

  Aercus

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Posts: 800

10/26/09 4:59:21 PM#38

A really good version of The Sims Online could get some massive subscriber base, and afaik it's the only game that has outsold WoW. I also think a Civilization-themed game could introduce a lot of new gamers to MMO's due to the well known IP, but I have no idea of how they would make it into and MMO..

People seem to think that WoW was destined to greatness, but those of us that were there at the start know that it was not much different than anything else when it launched, and the great success is mostly due to it being the right product at the right time. The "next big one" may or may not come, but I'm pretty sure it will sneak up on us, just as WoW did :)

  thinktank001

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10/26/09 5:10:25 PM#39
Originally posted by Cecropia

The sky really is the limit here as technology continues pushing forward. There is always the possibility that WOW will be looked at as the "heyday" of MMOs. Their subs are just on that level. Plain and simple. But none of us are fortune tellers, so who's to say it can't happen again.

Either way I'm incredibly excited for the coming next few years. At some point I'm sure WOW will start dropping numbers to a degree noticeable by even the most stubborn of fans. I am also aware the game will be around for long, long after that. I'm not blind. But someday when the piece of pie starts to shrink, think of all the other games new and old alike that will start showing decent signs of growth.

Imagine how great it will be when we don't have one single game hogging the majority of fans.


 

Not really.   Current design of cbs and components are already pushing heat limits, and sending signals over 2 inches at speeds faster than 6 Ghz is not ideal.   Hence, the reason you see more and more development into using multiple processors to improve performance.

 

I think the " improvement ball " has shifted towards software, and ISPs.   Unfortuneatly, ISPs are in an absolute terrible state ( US ), and software isn't much better. 

  User Deleted
10/26/09 5:10:40 PM#40

Everquest Next is the "next big one" and is rumored to be coming out in 2010.  There are people already giving away gear and deleting their characters in other games; that's how sure they are of "EQ Next."

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