As much as I like the game I honestly believe FE is not ready for a free trial program.

We need the game to be a bit more top heavy so we don't have a thousand freaking players in the starting zones.

The near 50k players (5-10k on at anytime) is more than enough atm.

Leave the free trials for a year or so from now.

Weekends are the worst since most people actually work on the week days and everyone is trying to get some play time on their day off.

About the downloading times... I noticed that when the patch process seems to go very slow, if you cancel it and the re-run the game to patch again it will be much more fast. That has happened me before in EQ2, so that was the clue to try it here, and it worked. I had to do it three times i think, but from 2days it was saying moved to 40 minutes.

So try it. Cancel the update when it start to go slow and run it again. You should notice a difference.

Originally posted by HiGHPLAiNS

Originally posted by biogerm

Originally posted by HiGHPLAiNS

Lets reflect..

Independent Company out of North Carolina with little money backing them up, unlike the big corporations (EA, Activision and SOE).

They built the game from scratch.

They release 2k+ Trials keys this past weekend for lucky lottery winners.

Persistent world with a hyrbid sandbox / themepark setting.

And its not a xerox of any current mmo out there now.

yes and as a smell indie comp its 10x more important to get ppl sub nad buy the game, and how do ppl will do so if out of the 14 day trials 4 of them is just dl silly patch? gimme a break. an indie comp can come up with a better compiler, shit i can prob write a better dl compiler myslef.

 

cheers.

 

p.s 14k files to go... lolz.

 

Well at least you aren't paying for anything. If you feel like your being screwed, then stop the download now.

If you want to argue how you may not get the full 14 day trial you were promised for FREE, then take the issue up with Icarus.

I honestly believe they shouldn't have given away anything away for free at this point and say screw the non payers.

If money is tight now for you, then wait for many of the official reviews to be published and stay in your current mmorpg.

I truly believe, not all, but the majority are probably just F2P players looking to try something for free.

thats my point, if iwas paying i was pissed as hell, and its not about to et the 14 days our of my trial... its about a compney that try to get ppl to sub, but in doing so that do just the opposite,

A. for ppl who do $$$ for the game. it sucks,+6-10k trials realy get the lagfest going. if the server are not up to the volume they should have not giving away all those trials.

B. for the trials ppl, as i stated before, dl a game for over 4 days is silly, how can a gameing company thinks to even attract more people if they cant get the game going?.

C. i understand $$$ is always a problem with gaming compneys, but there are other ways (better ways) to get people into your game and still keep a decent income. for starter u can say " hey we know the game is far from being complete, but we do need money so how about we take 5$ from ppl as a small income source and let player to play on the cbt or w/e. on the other hand, on today ,erket gaming compneys do the opposite, lets lunch the as early as we can, sale some box, and from there will go on,

and icarus did just about every mistake they can over the last month or so.

so as i said, i stick to my point.

not saying its a bad game, not good, cant realy say anything about cuz i havent got to play it yet.

do you know what im saying?

if not:

www.southparkstudios.com/clips/251903/

 Yeah, the large influx of trials caused some major server bumps. It really sucks.

"and icarus did just about every mistake they can over the last month or so."

.... What? They've made two mistakes so far.

1) The Server has some issues

2) Letting trials in so soon

I like the fact they get trials right out of the gates, but a lot of the subscribers are still in S1, so the trials are saturating it and causing tons of lag. I'm also thinking there may be backlash with the trials, people who really should never have played the game complaining about aiming and crafting times.

I played Sunday a couple hours before work and the game was running fine.  But then I was up by Chriss Pass and there are less people up there.

So far from what I have seen though, weekends do tend to be a bit rough.  But then most mmo's I have played the weekends seem to be the busiest, so that is nothing new.   Anyone who doesn't understand this is inexperienced in mmos.

I have mixed feelings as far as the free trial.  First off, they had some kind of distrribution problem or something because I could never find a retail box and opted to buy a digital download.  I'm more of a conventional guy, so getting a nonphysical copy was kind of a big step for me.  Some people might not try it at all if they can't get a physical copy, so a free trial might be a good incentive.  On the other hand, you might have an influx of people that have no intention of subing and just want to cause mischief.

I haven't logged in for about a week due to lack of time but when I tried on Sunday I was stuck at character selection screen for 5 mins then decided to give up as it was obvious the 'Sunday Blues' were in effect.

It's a great game and I really enjoy playing I just hope they can correct the server issues. I have to admit I did expect server lag this weekend with the trial.

Originally posted by nickelpat

 Yeah, the large influx of trials caused some major server bumps. It really sucks.

 

"and icarus did just about every mistake they can over the last month or so."

.... What? They've made two mistakes so far.

1) The Server has some issues

2) Letting trials in so soon

I like the fact they get trials right out of the gates, but a lot of the subscribers are still in S1, so the trials are saturating it and causing tons of lag. I'm also thinking there may be backlash with the trials, people who really should never have played the game complaining about aiming and crafting times.

alternately, the trial came across at just the right time for me.  lets me see if I'm going to spend the $$ on the game as i've been  very interested in it and it's grown alot better since 2nd stage of beta where it completely let me down.

Originally posted by metalhead980

As much as I like the game I honestly believe FE is not ready for a free trial program.

We need the game to be a bit more top heavy so we don't have a thousand freaking players in the starting zones.

The near 50k players (5-10k on at anytime) is more than enough atm.

Leave the free trials for a year or so from now.

Weekends are the worst since most people actually work on the week days and everyone is trying to get some play time on their day off.

 

 

Personally I'm interested in trying this game and if I have fun I would gladly pay the subscription fee. However I do not have an interest in paying the box price, nor do I for any MMO anymore. They are hardly ever worth it and I can go play more expansive, less buggy MMOs for just a sub price.

However I lose my interest on the free trial if everyone has been playing long enough to have maxed characters and everyone is in the high zones. So if they do decide to wait for a year or longer, as you suggested, to offer a free trial, then I highly doubt I would even try the game out at that point and would set my sights on all the games that have come out in that year.

Companies tend to wait too long to get the free trial out, because they want to get every sale dollar they can. However they shut out a huge portion of possible players. I'm far from the only person who is not interested in the box price, and I know I'm not the only one to lose interest in the free trial if the game has been out for a long time by the time it is offered.

Companies need to offer in game items and early access( a real amount of time like a month or so) for preordering, and then just offer a two week trial and the sub price once the game has launched. I'd be interested in the data showing the preorder sales numbers of most MMOs to launch in the past year compared with the box sales after release up until the free trial was offered. I would bet that the free trial and first week open sales are exponentially larger then the rest of the sales up to the free trial phase. And all that time could be used to get people into the game while it is new and interesting and get the sub numbers higher.

Originally posted by biogerm

 

QFTW.

 

ive let the updater run while i was out of my home over the weekend. now the dl size was about 4gig, nothing to much.

when i came back it seems that the download was done (it said start instead "patching" w/e it was/) anyhow i was dead sleepy so ive closed the updater and want to sleep. next time that i opened the updater, it says something like" hey mofo dl 4 more gigs".

 

at the time FE folder was juat about over 1 gig. its Monday now and im still dl.... shame. bad updater is all i can say.,

 

Mine downloaded in 2 hours.

No, the updater is fine, your comp however is not (or your ability to actually use a computer rather, you know, troubleshooting problems and all...).

Your own ignorance is not the fault of the updater or company, that rests solely upon your own shoulders. Stop trying to make the game appear as something it isn't, when it is easily the best mmo released within the past two years.

I dont get the complaints of the updates taking days to complete. I installed on Friday, started the patching, went out shopping with the old lady for 3 or so hrs, came back, watched a movie and was ready to play. I think it took a total of 5 hrs for me to fully patch.

Also, I dont the screams about it was too early for a free trial. This is honestly the perfect time for it. The game is new, there is still a good buzz. Let people try the game and then buy it. It creates more loyalty to a small indie dev imo. I think that is the biggest error Darkfall made, not giving a short free trial. You are not a big name dev, you need to tempt me into checking out your game.

Originally posted by blackthornn

Originally posted by nickelpat

 Yeah, the large influx of trials caused some major server bumps. It really sucks.

 

"and icarus did just about every mistake they can over the last month or so."

.... What? They've made two mistakes so far.

1) The Server has some issues

2) Letting trials in so soon

I like the fact they get trials right out of the gates, but a lot of the subscribers are still in S1, so the trials are saturating it and causing tons of lag. I'm also thinking there may be backlash with the trials, people who really should never have played the game complaining about aiming and crafting times.

 

alternately, the trial came across at just the right time for me.  lets me see if I'm going to spend the $$ on the game as i've been  very interested in it and it's grown alot better since 2nd stage of beta where it completely let me down.

Very cool, can't wait to see you in the wastes :)

Originally posted by Euphoryk

Originally posted by biogerm

 

QFTW.

 

ive let the updater run while i was out of my home over the weekend. now the dl size was about 4gig, nothing to much.

when i came back it seems that the download was done (it said start instead "patching" w/e it was/) anyhow i was dead sleepy so ive closed the updater and want to sleep. next time that i opened the updater, it says something like" hey mofo dl 4 more gigs".

 

at the time FE folder was juat about over 1 gig. its Monday now and im still dl.... shame. bad updater is all i can say.,

 

 

Mine downloaded in 2 hours.

No, the updater is fine, your comp however is not (or your ability to actually use a computer rather, you know, troubleshooting problems and all...).

Your own ignorance is not the fault of the updater or company, that rests solely upon your own shoulders. Stop trying to make the game appear as something it isn't, when it is easily the best mmo released within the past two years.

and that is why FE forums are full with people with the same problem?

ive dl AoC 17 gig in 10 hours or so....

go flame someone else flameboy.

FLAMEOFF.

I installed the game on two different systems over the weekend. There are some real problems with the patcher.

XP-Box
Patcher was not responding twice, but on the third try it went through the whole download. In total it took about 9 hours.

Vista-Box
It got a false complete after about 6000 files. It would periodically slow down every couple hours and it was definitely not my internet connection. Restarting the patcher would speed it back up. It needed over a dozen restarts to complete and it still took 20 hours to finish. It probably could have been done in a dozen hours or so, but it took a while to figure out that a restart would speed up the slow state that it would get into.

Overall it was one of the worst patcher experiences I have had for a MMOG. I have no idea why they didn't rebuild a new install with all the content included. Especially considering the influx of trial players.

Regardless, it got setup and runs great. Performance-wise, FPS gets into the teens occasionally when entering town, but its usually at 100+ FPS while outside down with the options nearly maxed out. Loving the game so far.

I beta tested FE for a bit near the end. Loved the atmosphere, but was never able to get time to test much. Some of the gripes listed in this thread, I had issues with. FPS dropped really low any town I went to, Lag was  real bad at time (as expected in beta IMO), and the real game seemed so much different than the tutorial. I never got the time to get used to not kickin butt like in the tutorial is all...

I got a trial key and will see what I missed.

;)

PS.

Aganazer's Avatar RULES!!

GO ELEMENTAL!!

Playing the trial on an old Dell 8300 with dual 3.0ghz p4, 1.5gigs of RAM and a nvidia 6200 256mb vid card.

Lowest settings, which arn't that bad yet its playable even in towns. Eat that shit.

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Aganazer's Avatar RULES!!

 

GO ELEMENTAL!!

I was wondering how long it would take before someone recognized it.

Lol i like how he said, grabbed a key d/led the client and hopped in...if only it was that easy..I had to leave the patcher on all night and im still waiting with like 30 mins to go just to get all the updates installed....still waiting......

Took me about 5 hours to download. Not the best downloader - I've seen libtorrent based downloaders do it 3x faster (5 gigs) and consistently. "Installing" took half hour. I don't know what it needed to install, because from what I can see FE doesn't use package files (put all the data in pseudo file system) - just copy & paste. Which I'm sure is going to take a toll on a lot of people's harddrives. Sigh.. even Blizzard's been doing package files for 15 years. It's very common, and should be standardized.

Other than that, and a few glitches, it's been pretty easy.