I played for 30 minutes and could not stand the game, sorry just not for me

Thanks, Hairy. Nice to see a reasoned post instead of all the people who think it was pulled since the FE devs complained or due to fanbois. It was pulled due to issues with the 'reviewer' who apparently lied and was called out on it, that's all.

I missed it.  I didn't read the review because I was too busy playing Fallen Earth despite the widespread bugs, unstable client, unstable servers, and overall bad performance.  After the 1.1.0 patch, I finally quit for good.  The MOB buff made gray missions impossible to solo and I started spending most of my time running back from the cloner.  And forget crafting.  It's fun as a secondary thing for your combat character, but after 1.1.0, crafting centered character development makes an unplayable character falls to MOBs half his level.

Without fast travel, and after 1.1.0, Fallen Earth is not for the casual gamer with less than hours at a time on their hands nor for those who like to solo.  The way that major combat change was made with no warning and so significantly changing my experience was reminiscent of SWG development.  Fallen Earth developers want the game to be hard and to appeal to a small few.  Good luck with that.  It's a game and has to be fun for me to want to play it.

If the review was retracted due to the sentiments and biased opinions of the remaining rabid fanbois, I hope the next one will stand on the facts.  The remaining player base is dedicated to the genre, like I was, and as the game goes down the tubes, they will become more furvent in their opinions, hoping good press will save the game they wish it was.

I'm hoping Bethesda or some experienced company can pull off a post-apocalyptic MMO that has the feel and the fun gameplay to really succeed.  Fallen Earth isn't it and the stated plans and demonstrated strategy for gameplay changes has it firmly set on a path similar to SWG.  Sad.  Very sad.

Originally posted by lukeborgman

I missed it.  I didn't read the review because I was too busy playing Fallen Earth despite the widespread bugs, unstable client, unstable servers, and overall bad performance.  After the 1.1.0 patch, I finally quit for good.  The MOB buff made gray missions impossible to solo and I started spending most of my time running back from the cloner.  And forget crafting.  It's fun as a secondary thing for your combat character, but after 1.1.0, crafting centered character development makes an unplayable character falls to MOBs half his level.

First of all, how much you personally enjoyed the game has nothing at all to do with this thread subject.

Secondly, that you're whining about the game being too hard to PVE in is just sad. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm no hardcore PVEr myself, and I die in the game sometimes. But seriously- the 'big' complaint on the FE forums is that the PVE content is too easy and there's not enough grouping because the whole game can be soloed, with a few exceptions.

 I'm a casual gamer, I solo, and I love FE.  It's got a challenge level I enjoy, and fast travel would ruin the feel of the setting. Honestly, it sounds like you're complaining that the character design system allows you to make a character that sucks a combat....and have him actually suck at combat.  Yeah.

You're either incompetant, making stuff up, or somehow all the conversation on the FE forums is vastly mis-representing the game.  And even if it's the latter, a game with PVE content that's actually CHALLENGING is exactly what the industry needs.

 Although I love fallen earth I would like to say this is a bad idea. It sets a precedent that is not a good direction for this website. Now everything will come into question. Yes I disagree with what most of the review said but should have let it stand or just done a second review from a new set of eyes. Instead you are forced to raise the score almost and thats not good.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 Although I love fallen earth I would like to say this is a bad idea. It sets a precedent that is not a good direction for this website. Now everything will come into question. Yes I disagree with what most of the review said but should have let it stand or just done a second review from a new set of eyes. Instead you are forced to raise the score almost and thats not good.

Anyone else seeing a pattern here?

You know with people responding to a thread without reading it,I mean Hairy just gave a full cap of the story behind the decision to retract the review only 1 page back,yet here is another post ready to start the whole thing yet again....the mind boggle's.

Originally posted by lukeborgman

I missed it.  I didn't read the review because I was too busy playing Fallen Earth despite the widespread bugs, unstable client, unstable servers, and overall bad performance.  After the 1.1.0 patch, I finally quit for good.  The MOB buff made gray missions impossible to solo and I started spending most of my time running back from the cloner.  And forget crafting.  It's fun as a secondary thing for your combat character, but after 1.1.0, crafting centered character development makes an unplayable character falls to MOBs half his level.

Without fast travel, and after 1.1.0, Fallen Earth is not for the casual gamer with less than hours at a time on their hands nor for those who like to solo.  The way that major combat change was made with no warning and so significantly changing my experience was reminiscent of SWG development.  Fallen Earth developers want the game to be hard and to appeal to a small few.  Good luck with that.  It's a game and has to be fun for me to want to play it.

If the review was retracted due to the sentiments and biased opinions of the remaining rabid fanbois, I hope the next one will stand on the facts.  The remaining player base is dedicated to the genre, like I was, and as the game goes down the tubes, they will become more furvent in their opinions, hoping good press will save the game they wish it was.

I'm hoping Bethesda or some experienced company can pull off a post-apocalyptic MMO that has the feel and the fun gameplay to really succeed.  Fallen Earth isn't it and the stated plans and demonstrated strategy for gameplay changes has it firmly set on a path similar to SWG.  Sad.  Very sad.

I like his statement about Bethesda or some other experienced company being able to pull it off,  when Bethesda has no experience in the MMO realm and even the companies that do still can't get it right. It's always the 'shit will smell good when "hyped game A" comes out', and his will be the voice talking about how it failed and  'shit will smell good when "Hyped game B" comes out',  etc.

Odd, while I did notice the increased damage and hit chance of mobs, the buff was nowhere near as dramatic as people claim. Before I could solo enitre camps that aggroed me (same level) with no risc (healing 1-2 times maybe). Now I can still take on 4-6 mobs but I need to watch my health now. Gray quests are not a problem, green quests are still easy and I can still run any normal yellow quests.

So maybe the problem is you and not the buff. Sure if you got used to the extreme easymode PvE now you struggle, but a bit of tactics and knowhow and you can easily make up for the buff. I play a Rifle/Crafter(mid 30s) and have a Melee too (low 20s) and both can hold their own.

Now the review was not retracted because of the score, but because of the fact that the reviewers only qualm with the game (lag - not clear if internet or framerate stutter) has been dismantled due to him playing the game on a PC that did not even meet the minimum requirements for the game. How can a review be fair if you don't even have a system to run the game properly.

Originally posted by cosy

The reviewer only had 2gb RAM and was using Vista,which do not meet the requirements for the game,

Performance/Lag

I am running Fallen Earth with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 4 Gigs of RAM and cable modem.

 

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that stuff is on review

Monthy Python, the MMORPG :D This is a farse, nothing else.

FIrst he stated 2 GB of Corsair RAM just like he has in every second review he have made.
Then he stated that the 2GB was a mistake. He really did mean that the GPU memory was at 2GB... (So for this specific review he had changed the hardware, better remove that [CTRL]+[V] macro huh?)

No ofcourse not, there is no readily avaible 3850 with 1GB VRAM. There is no typo when writing out such a detail on the memory and then change it to 4GB.

You should go and read the book "1984" there they do this all the time... forging the history that is. And there's people believing it, believing the rewritten text in old newspapers so they fit the current day and age, and it's inherant lies. :D

 "The Ministry of Truth (google cache in this case) serves an opposing purpose to that which its name would imply, being responsible for the falsification of historical events"

Originally posted by lukeborgman

I missed it.  I didn't read the review because I was too busy playing Fallen Earth despite the widespread bugs, unstable client, unstable servers, and overall bad performance.  After the 1.1.0 patch, I finally quit for good.  The MOB buff made gray missions impossible to solo and I started spending most of my time running back from the cloner.  And forget crafting.  It's fun as a secondary thing for your combat character, but after 1.1.0, crafting centered character development makes an unplayable character falls to MOBs half his level.

Without fast travel, and after 1.1.0, Fallen Earth is not for the casual gamer with less than hours at a time on their hands nor for those who like to solo.  The way that major combat change was made with no warning and so significantly changing my experience was reminiscent of SWG development.  Fallen Earth developers want the game to be hard and to appeal to a small few.  Good luck with that.  It's a game and has to be fun for me to want to play it.

If the review was retracted due to the sentiments and biased opinions of the remaining rabid fanbois, I hope the next one will stand on the facts.  The remaining player base is dedicated to the genre, like I was, and as the game goes down the tubes, they will become more furvent in their opinions, hoping good press will save the game they wish it was.

I'm hoping Bethesda or some experienced company can pull off a post-apocalyptic MMO that has the feel and the fun gameplay to really succeed.  Fallen Earth isn't it and the stated plans and demonstrated strategy for gameplay changes has it firmly set on a path similar to SWG.  Sad.  Very sad.

Almost everything you said is not true in anyway.

The Monty Python MMO continues...

Innocent mmorpg.com user: What manner of man are you that can summon up a review without RAM or consistency?

Joe: I... am a gamer

Innocent mmorpg.com user: By what name are you known?

Joe: There are some that call me... 'Joe'...?

Innocent mmorpg.com user: ... greetings, Joe the Gamer

Joe: Greetings, Innocent mmorpg.com user!

Innocent mmorpg.com user: You know my name?

Joe: I do.

[Kapow! impresses everyone by writing yet another amazing review complaining about lag]

You seek the Holy MMO!

Innocent mmorpg.com user: That is our quest. You know much that is hidden, O Joe.

...

Thank you for holding yourselves and your writers accountable. I did'nt even read the article, but it is refreshing to see a site that owns it's actions.

/Cheers.

I didn't even read the piece, but I'm disappointed in this.   Tremendously disappointed.

I don't come to this site to read what I want to hear ... I come here to read what people (who MMORPG.COM have vetted as good writers) think.   I come here looking for opinion, not new or fanboi news or developer hype.

If the writers opinion is wrong, that's what the comments are for ... to offer a counter point.   Not to demand the article be taken down.

Not only is this bad journalism to retract an opinion piece just because the public doesn't like it ... it sets a precedent that MMORPG will spend a loooong time trying to get away from ... because from this day forward, every unfavorable review will be savagely attacked with demands of retraction.

MMORPG just dropped from an 8 to 4 on a scale of 10 for me ... and I didn't even read the opinion.  

You don't retract opinion pieces ... you retract news articles that state incorrect facts.

I now know they see their business, the business of printing what they think the readers want to read, instead of what they need to read.

Originally posted by Zinderin

I didn't even read the piece, but I'm disappointed in this.   Tremendously disappointed.

I don't come to this site to read what I want to hear ... I come here to read what people (who MMORPG.COM have vetted as good writers) think.   I come here looking for opinion, not new or fanboi news or developer hype.

If the writers opinion is wrong, that's what the comments are for ... to offer a counter point.   Not to demand the article be taken down.

Not only is this bad journalism to retract an opinion piece just because the public doesn't like it ... it sets a precedent that MMORPG will spend a loooong time trying to get away from ... because from this day forward, every unfavorable review will be savagely attacked with demands of retraction.

MMORPG just dropped from an 8 to 4 on a scale of 10 for me ... and I didn't even read the opinion.  

You don't retract opinion pieces ... you retract news articles that state incorrect facts.

I now know they see their business, the business of printing what they think the readers want to read, instead of what they need to read.

 

 

 

 

This is simply unbelievable. How many people are going to post this sort of clueless drivel? The review was NOT detracted because people disagreed with the opinion. Zinderin, for crying out loud read the damn thread.

Let me try to put this out there in a way you guys might understand

Just because someone used a system with 2 gigs of ram in the past does not mean that they used it on a game that requires even more. Nor does it mean they are trying to lie and hide something whenever they mention it was a typo. I'd actually suggest that they were more likely to make the typo due to the fact that writing out the same old information was common place for them.

It is a possibility that, yes, this review was conducted on a system below the minimum requirement, but the -only- real evidence we have, the reviewers word, has suggested otherwise.

You are suspicious that because in the past he had used a system with 2 gigs that it was not a mistake and that he is trying to cover his ass but you have no real proof. That, my friends, is proof surrogate. You are stating something without evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only evidence you have is a small voice in the back of your mind that suggests something is not right and that does not serve as real proof.

As far as the reviewers thoughts on lag go, yes indeed there is a lot of it. There is a little, but not enough to cause you to quit, bit of network lag. My Frame Per Second, however, are much lower than what I receive on even Age of Conan and I think we all know which game should be more graphically intensive, it's not Fallen Earth. All of this is likely an issue that will take a few months to remedy but as it stands, even with a system beyond the requirements, I lag.

I think it has to do with all of the horses people can leave around or something.

Originally posted by Zinderin

I didn't even read the piece, but I'm disappointed in this.   Tremendously disappointed.

I don't come to this site to read what I want to hear ... I come here to read what people (who MMORPG.COM have vetted as good writers) think.   I come here looking for opinion, not new or fanboi news or developer hype.

If the writers opinion is wrong, that's what the comments are for ... to offer a counter point.   Not to demand the article be taken down.

Not only is this bad journalism to retract an opinion piece just because the public doesn't like it ... it sets a precedent that MMORPG will spend a loooong time trying to get away from ... because from this day forward, every unfavorable review will be savagely attacked with demands of retraction.

MMORPG just dropped from an 8 to 4 on a scale of 10 for me ... and I didn't even read the opinion.  

You don't retract opinion pieces ... you retract news articles that state incorrect facts.

I now know they see their business, the business of printing what they think the readers want to read, instead of what they need to read.

 

 

 

 

For the love of f.....

Read the damn thread,you said yourself you never read it but still posted a pointless response,you have no idea what you are replying to but still feel the need to do it.

I would bet my last penny if you read the facts you would not have posted this...just a waste of bandwidth.

I would suggest this thread is closed,the people that actually care and bothered to read the thread and the previous thread now know this info,it is now just dragging in the trolls that have neither the IQ or the know how to read what the thread was about and why the thread was made.

Originally posted by superslaya

Let me try to put this out there in a way you guys might understand

Just because someone used a system with 2 gigs of ram in the past does not mean that they used it on a game that requires even more. Nor does it mean they are trying to lie and hide something whenever they mention it was a typo. I'd actually suggest that they were more likely to make the typo due to the fact that writing out the same old information was common place for them.

It is a possibility that, yes, this review was conducted on a system below the minimum requirement, but the -only- real evidence we have, the reviewers word, has suggested otherwise.

You are suspicious that because in the past he had used a system with 2 gigs that it was not a mistake and that he is trying to cover his ass but you have no real proof. That, my friends, is proof surrogate. You are stating something without evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only evidence you have is a small voice in the back of your mind that suggests something is not right and that does not serve as real proof.

I refer this post to my previous post...read the thread before posting your "wisdom"

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by superslaya

Let me try to put this out there in a way you guys might understand

Just because someone used a system with 2 gigs of ram in the past does not mean that they used it on a game that requires even more. Nor does it mean they are trying to lie and hide something whenever they mention it was a typo. I'd actually suggest that they were more likely to make the typo due to the fact that writing out the same old information was common place for them.

It is a possibility that, yes, this review was conducted on a system below the minimum requirement, but the -only- real evidence we have, the reviewers word, has suggested otherwise.

You are suspicious that because in the past he had used a system with 2 gigs that it was not a mistake and that he is trying to cover his ass but you have no real proof. That, my friends, is proof surrogate. You are stating something without evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only evidence you have is a small voice in the back of your mind that suggests something is not right and that does not serve as real proof.

I refer this post to my previous post...read the thread before posting your "wisdom"

I read it. All I saw was some people finding a thread to pull upon and attempting to unwrap an entire mystery.

Life does not work that way. Previous reviews listing as 2 gigs and this one mistakenly listing as 2 gigs before being changed does not mean there is a conspiracy within.

On another note, a computer is not entirely based around it's ram. Not when it focuses on games. The GPU is far more important.

fanbois are all up in arms...it is funny...and over a game in beta...*shakes head*

Originally posted by superslaya

Originally posted by daylight01

Originally posted by superslaya

Let me try to put this out there in a way you guys might understand

Just because someone used a system with 2 gigs of ram in the past does not mean that they used it on a game that requires even more. Nor does it mean they are trying to lie and hide something whenever they mention it was a typo. I'd actually suggest that they were more likely to make the typo due to the fact that writing out the same old information was common place for them.

It is a possibility that, yes, this review was conducted on a system below the minimum requirement, but the -only- real evidence we have, the reviewers word, has suggested otherwise.

You are suspicious that because in the past he had used a system with 2 gigs that it was not a mistake and that he is trying to cover his ass but you have no real proof. That, my friends, is proof surrogate. You are stating something without evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt. The only evidence you have is a small voice in the back of your mind that suggests something is not right and that does not serve as real proof.

I refer this post to my previous post...read the thread before posting your "wisdom"

 

I read it. All I saw was some people finding a thread to pull upon and attempting to unwrap an entire mystery.

Life does not work that way. Previous reviews listing as 2 gigs and this one mistakenly listing as 2 gigs before being changed does not mean there is a conspiracy within.

On another note, a computer is not entirely based around it's ram. Not when it focuses on games. The GPU is far more important.

No you never read the thread,or the previous 1,if you did you would have seen the reviewer tried to cover his mistake by saying he "made a typo" and it is his graphics cards that were 2gb,he listed his cards and the cards(2 cards@1gb) are not even real.

Like I said read the thread and try to keep up,you are defending someone that has been found out..do you honestly think this site would have pulled the review if they were not sure.

Also what do you mean about the GPU is more important than the RAM? are you high?

All the components are as important as the each other,you are saying a guy running high end games with 2gb ram on vista is ok as long as the rest of his pc set up his top notch?