Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by teco221

I am 40 now and I still have quests from 20 and 30 that I never get a chance to finish so where is the grinding from??  Everywhere I go there are blue arrows in every NPC,  I have not even hit all the instances yet.  So, Aion should just give everyone a lvl 50 toon when they create the account??

 

You know how much XP you need from level41 to level42 right? Go check that first.

Then start picking up those quests and shock yourself to find out how ridiculous little XP they give, compaired to the amount of time you need to spend on finishing it.

People already said, that the quest XP past level30 is such a joke, that one single Elite mob already gives more XP then most of the quests in that levelrange.

Cheers

Liar liar pants on fire.

If you do repeat quests you won't get much EXP, but the quest rewards are fine from 30+

I haven't hit 50 yet so I can't say it will stay this way, but to say that the quest EXP past 30 is a joke obviously never played an MMO.

What I believe is the biggest problem with the game is that it isn't linear at the later levels. They don't say "go here for all your new quests". If you actually explore a bit your quest log will always be full.

People hate it when a game holds their hand, but complain when they have no direction.

I can understand why someone might complain about the grind, but not when they turn around and say they got to level 75 in Lineage 2?  Guess OP botted or something because L2 was a horror, especially past 50 and like some folks said, it could take 8 hours in a good group to gain 1%.

Originally posted by Furor

As you all know i just hit level 45 2 days ago, I love the game except the grind. I was hardcore enough to hit level 75 in lineage 2.

So grinding is nothing new to me..... To me the major flaw in Aion... IN ALL OF AION.

is the hardest core grind you WILL EVER SEE. the level 40-45 THis is HELL LEVELS FOLKS in everquest term. This is considered the harshest gap and nightmare levels you will have ever seen. This is the gap levels that you will have very little exp and no instances to run and the mobs barely will give 2000 exp.....the best mob in your level range gives that much.

If you have the will to grind form level 40- level 41 , trust me By the time you hit levle 45 you will be a shadow of your former self, or even worse your sanity will explode in millions of fragments in front of your desktop.

I repeat level 40-45 is hell levells and not for the faint of heart. Youd wish that someone would put you out of your misery in the early level 40's.  If your still in early 25's and think the game is fun, yes its fun UNTIL you hit the wall at level 40. Then its hellish levle grind you'll ever see since lineage 2 or final fantasy xi grind to level 75 type grind.

BUT GOOD NEWS GUYS, when you hit level 45 i think its a little easier to grind......Until then folks, GOOD LUCK i would be suprised if anyone of you managed to grind through hell nightmarish level of 40-45 and not go insane.

i suggest that ncsoft needs to fix this hellish levels in aion, thats the only complaint i got.. If you dont have the will you wont make it past 40 id be darn suprised if you made it to level 42 without hitting your head in the wall.

Just those two highlighted sentences just goes to show he know does not know what grind is. Hell L2 is more of a grind than Aion is. Oh and saying there is no instances at 40+ is also a lie there are at least four instances.

Originally posted by teco221

I am 40 now and I still have quests from 20 and 30 that I never get a chance to finish so where is the grinding from??  Everywhere I go there are blue arrows in every NPC,  I have not even hit all the instances yet.  So, Aion should just give everyone a lvl 50 toon when they create the account??

You meant those repeatable 100 times quest that give you 8000 exp sending you to kill 20 of this, 30 of that or those petty run around quests that have you run from this end of the world to the other and give you 12000 exp when you need several millions exp to level? Yeah, tons of those.

So many quests are just so poorly design and petty reward that I wonder why make those quests in the first place, why just replace the whole meaningless text that tell you to go kill 30 of this type of mob and repeat that 100 times with 1 sentence "Go grind you dumb ass!"

Quests were supposed to soften the grind and hid it right? Most quests in AION don't even bother to do that except some in the campaign chain.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

I really don't believe this tool even plays Aion, much less ever played Lineage 2. To say Aion is the " BIGGEST GRIND EVER" is simply retarded. Aion is nowhere near the biggest grind out there. Just the fact that it was possible for people to get level 50 in 2 weeks, I don't care if they played 24 hours a day, means the "grind" in this game to max level is not bad at all.

If you don't like the game, quit. If you think it has a large grind, go back and play WoW or whatever EZmode game you started in this genre on. That's the beauty of MMOs, if you don't like one theres always another to play. It doesn't mean that Aion has to change to be successful or that its a "flaw" to take more than 24 hours to gain max level. It's just a different type of game, so go find a new one if you don't like it, don't try to change the game that many of us love.

The crap you have been spewing on the forum lately Furor really makes me doubt you even play, and if you do you just sit in the corner grinding mobs like a retard. Of course if you do one repetitive task over and over in a game you'll get bored, thats like grinding boars in WoW. There are so many other things to do in the game.

 

We have a winner right here!

And also - for the record... I doubt Furor played L2 OR Aion... based on his comments - at least to the levels he indicated. The people who reply with "he's telling the truth" makes me rofl even more....

Obvious troll is obvious.... what I don't get is... why are you people still here complaining about a game you so-called "hate"?

Originally posted by teco221

I am 40 now and I still have quests from 20 and 30 that I never get a chance to finish so where is the grinding from??  Everywhere I go there are blue arrows in every NPC,  I have not even hit all the instances yet.  So, Aion should just give everyone a lvl 50 toon when they create the account??

Doesn't WoW do this with Death Knights or something... reach for the easy button.

I believe a major flaw in this game is not the fact that there is a grind, but the fact there is no grind worth repeating (as in experience the grind in a new settings or world) other than a new class. Which is needless to say, not enough.

Originally posted by Furor

As you all know i just hit level 45 2 days ago, I love the game except the grind. I was hardcore enough to hit level 75 in lineage 2.

Grats, did you hit 75 on retail server or did you play a shity private server with 200x rates?

So grinding is nothing new to me..... To me the major flaw in Aion... IN ALL OF AION.

Waits in anticipation....

is the hardest core grind you WILL EVER SEE. the level 40-45 THis is HELL LEVELS FOLKS in everquest term. This is considered the harshest gap and nightmare levels you will have ever seen. This is the gap levels that you will have very little exp and no instances to run and the mobs barely will give 2000 exp.....the best mob in your level range gives that much.

Actually there are plenty of instance runs, so much that it's easier to gain Abyss Points in this time frame than at 50. Mobs giving 2000 exp is a complete lie, you get at least 30k-40k exp per mob in the 40-45 range and 100k+ in a group killing Elites. So if you are in a group killing elites for 100k each, 10 elites give you 1mill exp... 100 gives you 10mill but 1k gives you 100mill. So yeah for the later levels it will be 1000+ mobs if you don't do any quests or pvp. He said 2k... 2k! After that how can anyone take his posts seriously?

If you have the will to grind form level 40- level 41 , trust me By the time you hit levle 45 you will be a shadow of your former self, or even worse your sanity will explode in millions of fragments in front of your desktop.

I didn't even know this is possible. A game so bad that it twists your mind and permanently damages you? Perhaps I can see why you are insane... I guess.

I repeat level 40-45 is hell levells and not for the faint of heart. Youd wish that someone would put you out of your misery in the early level 40's.  If your still in early 25's and think the game is fun, yes its fun UNTIL you hit the wall at level 40. Then its hellish levle grind you'll ever see since lineage 2 or final fantasy xi grind to level 75 type grind.

Well considering people are leveling up from 1-50 in 300 hours and ironically levels 80-85 in Lineage 2 each level takes longer than the time it takes to get level cap in Aion it just makes it hard to fathom this being true. I'm almost at the point of laughing. Oh back to the paragraph, so basically you've purposefully tried to grind 12 hours a day from 40-45 without doing any PvP, fortress sieges or the plenty of instances available at those levels. Yeah that would suck!

BUT GOOD NEWS GUYS, when you hit level 45 i think its a little easier to grind......Until then folks, GOOD LUCK i would be suprised if anyone of you managed to grind through hell nightmarish level of 40-45 and not go insane.

No, actually 45-50 is worse.

i suggest that ncsoft needs to fix this hellish levels in aion, thats the only complaint i got.. If you dont have the will you wont make it past 40 id be darn suprised if you made it to level 42 without hitting your head in the wall.

They are making changes, wouldn't call it a fix where some quests give 10x the rewards in a patch that will eventually go live here.

I have to quote you just so you don't edit your post because this is the biggest troll attempt in a long while. I took the bait I guess.

If you enjoy what you are doing then it is not a grind, regardless of how long you do it if you are having fun.  If you don't enjoy what you are doing and only doing it to get to the next stage of something, then that is a grind.  That only gets worse the longer the grind is.

Who cares anyway this game is a korean crap fest anyway's iv played f2p games more fun than this crap

 You didn't really play Lineage 2... or you played in a private server (that alone kills any credibility) and think you're a "grind veteran" because you leveled in a x10 rate or something like that. 

The first ones to reach 50 in Aion took around 300 hours to reach that level, which is half of what you would need to gain... a level.

Anyway, you have so many options as the game goes on (much different than the single starting areas linear feeling you get early in the game), the only fact that is right is that you can't go 1-50 if you're only doing quests. You'll need to kill monsters outside of quest objectives, that's where the possibilities come as you do have options of where to do so and if you want to do it in a solo area or in a group area.

Originally posted by Furor

As you all know i just hit level 45 2 days ago, I love the game except the grind. I was hardcore enough to hit level 75 in lineage 2.

So grinding is nothing new to me..... To me the major flaw in Aion... IN ALL OF AION.

is the hardest core grind you WILL EVER SEE. the level 40-45 THis is HELL LEVELS FOLKS in everquest term.

Luckily I quit at lvl 25

Seriously, I thought that the level of grind between lvl 18 and 25 was the worst, since there are fewer quests and no dungeons................it amaze me that it gets even harder.

Considering the fact I played EQ for 2 years, and I am not scared of grinding either, says everything about the amount of "negative" grind in this game.
I say negative, because every MMO has grind, most of the games manage to mask the grind by offering lots of dungeons to explore, or by adding a silly number of quests to make.
Aion does none of that.
It is just you, your blade and the same (insert any random mob) .............not fun

It's not the grind that turned me off.. i've played plenty of F2P asian grinder games and XP grinding is nothing new to me. What turned me off Aion is the lack of instanced dungeon content and also the game feels soul-less. That coupled with all the annoying gold spammers and asshat community turned me off completely. I quit at level 25 too when the game started to feel boring and empty. Aion is a good game just that there's something lacking which I can't seem to put my finger on.

 korean grind game 

Originally posted by GetViolated

 korean grind game 

Wow - how original..

Did you come up with that all by yourself?