I was playing last night, minding my own business as I usually do when I noticed a couple players in my clan chat talking about Chip and Material sellers.  Apparently a number of members in my clan wanted material and chip sellers in the game so they can zip through to the End Game.

Now me personally, I don't like that, I didn't like that, and basically started asking them questions like why they would want to zip through 75% of the content straight to the end.  Apparently they just wanted end game PvP, instant gratification, nomatter the cost, as long as they didn't have to play through the "boring" missions, or salvage Mats, etc. etc.

They were real dicks about it,  dunno why I'm still in that clan anyways, obviously theres a good majority of players in my clan who felt the same way,  but I wanted to ask the question to you MMORPGers out there and see what your takes on it are.   How do you play?  Rush to the end? Play through the content?  Pros? Cons?

I never understood people who want to just rush through the end and skip 90% of the game they are paying for in the first place. If all they want to do is pvp in an fps environment and forget all the rpg elements, why dont they just go and play any one of the thousands of great fps games out there.

Me personally I am never in a rush. I like to take my time, to explore, to work on my character. Sadly most of the new MMO's such as WoW, Aion and several others do not really offer any sort of reward or any reason to do anything but rush to the end. I miss the days of old UO and SWG pre-cu where you did not feel rushed, and it was more about the journey than the ending.

I also look at it on the fact that I am paying $15 per month to play the game, and in that I want to experience all the game has to offer me and not simply rush to the end.

I can say that those wishing to get to the endgame and not do anything else, will most likely quit soon after they get there, or will troll the forums about how quickly they got there and how there is nothing more to do.

I tend to take the RPG portion of MMORPG to heart.   I want to play a character.  PvP in an RPG usually doesn’t excite me.  If I want to PvP, I find the straight-up shooters more entertaining.

I’m not a quest-monkey, but I do want to see the content I paid for.  Why would someone spend the time and money on a game ( especially one with a monthly subscription )  if they just want to jump straight to PvP, which will undoubtedly disappoint any hardcore PvPer?  That’s one I can’t answer.

I don’t fault anyone who does want to throw away their money and zip past the content, but I don’t think game developers should create any shortcuts.
 

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

I have to admit this is the first MMORPG I have played (one of many) where I don't feel rushed to get to the end game. Maybe it's because I don't have friends waiting for me or maybe I can do all the fun stuff that I want right now, no matter what level I am. The perfect example would be a mount at level 4. I was stunned to see myself riding a horse at considerably low level, but I love every minute of it. Further more, I can craft hours and hours and not feel the need to get to a higher level first, because those needed mats are just out of reach. Plus, crafting gives you experience, so you're leveling anyway. That's one thing I love about FE; you can be having fun, just exploring and gathering materials, but you will still gain experience and level up.

I don't feel any sort of force pushing me to grind and quest like a mad man to level up as fast as I can. I can just do what I want and I get rewarded for it. It's a good feeling. Still crossing my fingers though, because that MMO-boredom could strike at any minute like it did with all the previous MMORPG's I played. I'm just hoping it could skip this game, because I'm loving it so far.

This games doesn't seem like a "rush to the end"  type of game.    And besides, I think it'd be pretty lonely out there in Sector 4, considering it seems still most of the population is still in Embry Cross Roads (Sector 1)

If people want to power through, that's all fine I guess.   There are those that have to be first in everything.. (or ruin everything, depending how you look at it) ...

If that clan doesn't mesh with your enjoyment of the game, best suggestion is to find a new home!
Then again, it seems like there are a lot of trouble / bad clans in the game from what people are telling me...

Originally posted by Michiel

I have to admit this is the first MMORPG I have played (one of many) where I don't feel rushed to get to the end game. Maybe it's because I don't have friends waiting for me or maybe I can do all the fun stuff that I want right now, no matter what level I am. The perfect example would be a mount at level 4. I was stunned to see myself riding a horse at considerably low level, but I love every minute of it. Further more, I can craft hours and hours and not feel the need to get to a higher level first, because those needed mats are just out of reach. Plus, crafting gives you experience, so you're leveling anyway. That's one thing I love about FE; you can be having fun, just exploring and gathering materials, but you will still gain experience and level up.

I don't feel any sort of force pushing me to grind and quest like a mad man to level up as fast as I can. I can just do what I want and I get rewarded for it. It's a good feeling. Still crossing my fingers though, because that MMO-boredom could strike at any minute like it did with all the previous MMORPG's I played. I'm just hoping it could skip this game, because I'm loving it so far.

I feel the same way. I've been too busy crafting, exploring, and yes, sometimes even questing, to even look at my exp. bar. I've never really gotten the same feeling from an MMO that I've got from this one. Normally, I'm trying to powerlevel like a madman. Anyway, I'm worried about MMO boredom setting in too (since I've had MMORPG-ADHD for the last couple years), but if they keep perpetually adding more areas to explore, and improve PvP I'm not sure why I'd want to leave FE at this point.

I'm not in a rush.

I'm also not in a rush. However having said that I can quite understand why someone would want to skip through all the quests and crafting and go straight to the PvP aspect of the game. Lets face it once you've done one quest you've done them all. I'm quite enjoying it all myself but at the same time I'm well aware that its all the same old bollocks. It doesnt take much to see right through it all.

Gather materials together. Click create. Repeat repeat reapeat. Ding I'm a level 30 armour crafter. I can make the next jacket in the line. Collect the materials together. Click create. Repeat repeat repeat. Ding I'm a level 50 armour crafter. I can make the next jacket in the line. Collect the materials together. Click create. Repeat repeat repeat. Ding I'm a level 70 armour crafter. I can make the next jacket in the line.

The questing follows a similar pattern too......although the stories are quite well written.....for an mmo. They're still just stories though. So once you've seen some of it, you know that the rest is just gonna be more of the same. Go and kill 10 of those guys stood on the hill. Go and kill that individual guy stood in a ravine. Go and stand there and get attacked by 3 waves of 2 guys. Go and harvest some vegetables. Go and make me some shirts. Go and deliver this for me. I can perfectly understand why someone might view all of that as a form of repetitive strain injury and would want to skip all of it so they can get down to fighting human opponents instead.

Like I said though I'm quite liking the game and I'm not in any rush. Thats because I'm addicted to repetitive MMO's and have a high tolerance for such activities. I can however see the other side of the coin. You might not understand why people would pay a monthly fee and then ignore the games "content" and play against other people instead, but then they probably dont understand why you pay a monthly fee to play against the computer which you can do in a single player game for free......and they are generally better quality games than mmos too. Its all relative.

No rush here either.

I am naturally a slow leveler by choice in any mmorpg that comes my way.

Not only that I'm not in any rush but I also try not to worry much about how other people play their games.

If some young kid decides to blow his student loan on ingame currency wtf has that got to do with me?

As long as it's not my kid lol.

I know that in a PVP game exploits, RMT and similar stuff should concern me a little bit, but meh, I'm getting too old to worry about it, someone has an edge  on me in PVP because he used  exploits or cheats you say?

Big deal.

Video game heh.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

 

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

In my opinion, they're a bunch of pansies. Who could honestly argue to be a hardcore player if they are too lazy to actually work for their achievements?

Originally posted by maskedweasel

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

 

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

Your definately not alone in your thinking, and I agree with you on not wanting chip/material sellers. Of course I'm one of the people who played my first 2 weeks and never left the area around Clinton FARM because I was 'still exploring'. Hell I still have to force myself to remember I have a quest log with things I could be doing when I play. FE has the ability to cater to so many different styles of play, from the crafter/collector, the explorer, the quester, the hunter/grinder, the PvPer, and yes the end game/hardcore (LOL) players. Sorry I had to laugh there, the idea that your more hardcore than someone else in a game because you only want to play the end of the game...well all that means is you suck at the rest of it IMO. A world like FE offers so much it's just sad to see some that want to miss it all.

It's The Journey, Not The Destination.
A common cliche, but a true one. Something lost on many an MMO gamer, even myself sometimes!
FE, as suggested in above posts, is a game that should be savoured not rushed.

Your clan mates are playing the wrong game, they should get Call of Duty or Battlefield if they want instant action. .
What they are doing playing an MMO is beyond me. Lazy so and so's.

Quite a few PvPers buy gold. That doesn't shock me one bit. In fact PvPers are more likely to buy gold than the rest of population. When your main goal is ownage and epeen, you can't be bothered with boring crap like exploring and experiencing all the content. You need the extra gold to feed your PvP habit and get the gear you need to compete right now.

Originally posted by Haggis13

Originally posted by maskedweasel

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

 

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

 

In my opinion, they're a bunch of pansies. Who could honestly argue to be a hardcore player if they are too lazy to actually work for their achievements?

No-one is argueing about being a hardcore player though. You're the first one to mention it. When did they say "Yeah we're hardcore cos we can rush to the end"? Never, thats when. You've just invented an image of them in your head and decided that its an accurate portrayal of who they are when it isnt.

Also whats laziness got to do with it? Whether they sit there for weeks clicking buttons to watch numbers go up on their character sheet or sit their for weeks to watch their human controlled opponents die its all the same thing. Its all just time wasting entertainment. So they want to skip all the grinding and the quests. Whats wrong with that? In your opinion they're a bunch of pansies? What for not wanting to play against the computer with its simplistic AI and do all the repetitive quests and crafting? Yeah you're really hardcore arent you for putting yourself through all of that lol. Its a good thing your opinion of them is irrelevant. They dont care what you think of them because they're enjoying the game in the way they choose to.

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Haggis13

Originally posted by maskedweasel

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

 

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

 

In my opinion, they're a bunch of pansies. Who could honestly argue to be a hardcore player if they are too lazy to actually work for their achievements?

 

No-one is argueing about being a hardcore player though. You're the first one to mention it. When did they say "Yeah we're hardcore cos we can rush to the end"? Never, thats when. You've just invented an image of them in your head and decided that its an accurate portrayal of who they are when it isnt.

Also whats laziness got to do with it? Whether they sit there for weeks clicking buttons to watch numbers go up on their character sheet or sit their for weeks to watch their human controlled opponents die its all the same thing. Its all just time wasting entertainment. So they want to skip all the grinding and the quests. Whats wrong with that? In your opinion they're a bunch of pansies? What for not wanting to play against the computer with its simplistic AI and do all the repetitive quests and crafting? Yeah you're really hardcore arent you for putting yourself through all of that lol. Its a good thing your opinion of them is irrelevant. They dont care what you think of them because they're enjoying the game in the way they choose to.

Dear me, I must've been SO mistaken! I cannot believe how I was so very blind to all those very intelligent insights you just gave me! Thank you so much for changing my entire perspective on this matter... nay, on Fallen Earth... nay, on MMOs in general... nay, on LIFE ITSELF! I shall go forth and propagate the newfound Neonwirism, shall I?

Originally posted by Haggis13

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Haggis13

Originally posted by maskedweasel

 I'm glad to see I'm not alone.  From what they told me, they were obviously more hardcore then me, and they didn't want to play a FPS because you can't customize your character in a FPS.    Whatever their reasoning for doing it, it just didn't make sense to me, obviously because I'm so far the other way that rushing through the game barely knowing your character just didn't sound right.

 

Luckily  there doesn't seem to be an easy mode in FE, to just skip to the end, or Power Level.... as far as I know. I hope it stays that way.

 

In my opinion, they're a bunch of pansies. Who could honestly argue to be a hardcore player if they are too lazy to actually work for their achievements?

 

No-one is argueing about being a hardcore player though. You're the first one to mention it. When did they say "Yeah we're hardcore cos we can rush to the end"? Never, thats when. You've just invented an image of them in your head and decided that its an accurate portrayal of who they are when it isnt.

Also whats laziness got to do with it? Whether they sit there for weeks clicking buttons to watch numbers go up on their character sheet or sit their for weeks to watch their human controlled opponents die its all the same thing. Its all just time wasting entertainment. So they want to skip all the grinding and the quests. Whats wrong with that? In your opinion they're a bunch of pansies? What for not wanting to play against the computer with its simplistic AI and do all the repetitive quests and crafting? Yeah you're really hardcore arent you for putting yourself through all of that lol. Its a good thing your opinion of them is irrelevant. They dont care what you think of them because they're enjoying the game in the way they choose to.

 

Dear me, I must've been SO mistaken! I cannot believe how I was so very blind to all those very intelligent insights you just gave me! Thank you so much for changing my entire perspective on this matter... nay, on Fallen Earth... nay, on MMOs in general... nay, on LIFE ITSELF! I shall go forth and propagate the newfound Neonwirism, shall I?

Its an honour to be of service

I mean, if a new MMORPG get's released and people want to become the first max level player, then I can somehow relate to that, though I wouldn't do it myself.

But else?
Rushing through MMORPGs doesn't make much sense. If the MMORPG is rather new you won't find people to group with / play against on the max level. You will miss tons of content, quests and whatnot. I don't see why people should do that.

I play FE now for about 3 weeks, got a lvl 19 and a lvl 6 charakter, and I'm having fun. I got two full more sectors to explore, tons of content. I'm looking forward to that. :)

The reason PvPers like MMOs over standard FPSes (Call of Duty and such) is that they can get an advantage over everyone else in an MMO. It's all about having an unfair advantage over everyone in PvP, as it proves one's massive epeen to the world. When you're one of the the people who rushes to level 45, you're perpetually a step ahead of the vast majority of players at everything. I've already seen a couple geared 45s running around (showing off in noob towns). These guys are perfecting their gear  while the rest of us are still  levelling.

I think that's why these people are always bitching about more content and more end-game. They  have to make sure their items are better than everyone else's.