I am not the a huge trek fan, I enjoyed the series and the movies ( the last one was the best movie of the summer) but that is as far as it goes.

I have played many MMO's mainly the standard phantasy ones all the big ones WOW,AOC,WAR,EQ, ETC. ETC., but with the list of garbage put out over the last year or so AOC,WAR,CHAMPIONS,AION, I am just sick to death and want to try something new.

My question is will the communtiy just be a giant trek convention on a MMO plat form? will region chat, guild and vent be full of nothing but trek talk that has nothing to do with the game or the situation at hand 24/7.

I am a hardcore player as in puting in over 40+ hours a week, always joining one of the top rank guilds and aliances, and striving to be the best at PVP and end game, what % of the game will I be missing out on or how will it effect over all play for me if I am not the bigiest fan or versed in lore.

DO NOT take this as a trek bashing post IT IS NOT!

I just do not want to get involved with a game where 90% of the population is going to be talking about stuff that I will have no clue about or where not knowing this out side of the MMO stuff will put me at a in game disadvantage.

At the rate people change games today, I seriously doubt everyone playing STO will be trekies. Im sure each server will have its share of elitist a-holes, but they are in every MMO.

Originally posted by Zartanyen

I am not the a huge trek fan, I enjoyed the series and the movies ( the last one was the best movie of the summer) but that is as far as it goes.

I have played many MMO's mainly the standard phantasy ones all the big ones WOW,AOC,WAR,EQ, ETC. ETC., but with the list of garbage put out over the last year or so AOC,WAR,CHAMPIONS,AION, I am just sick to death and want to try something new.

My question is will the communtiy just be a giant trek convention on a MMO plat form? will region chat, guild and vent be full of nothing but trek talk that has nothing to do with the game or the situation at hand 24/7.

I am a hardcore player as in puting in over 40+ hours a week, always joining one of the top rank guilds and aliances, and striving to be the best at PVP and end game, what % of the game will I be missing out on or how will it effect over all play for me if I am not the bigiest fan or versed in lore.

DO NOT take this as a trek bashing post IT IS NOT!

I just do not want to get involved with a game where 90% of the population is going to be talking about stuff that I will have no clue about or where not knowing this out side of the MMO stuff will put me at a in game disadvantage.

So you are saying, for example, you go into another game, such as one that you mentioned that you didn't list as garbage, World of Warcraft, you will quit the game because the community is talking about the game they are playing? If you have no clue what a game is about, why don't you just read about it through oh I don't know...GOOGLE?

Originally posted by Murashu

At the rate people change games today, I seriously doubt everyone playing STO will be trekies. Im sure each server will have its share of elitist a-holes, but they are in every MMO.

I doubt many Trek fans will be playing for very long.

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Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

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Originally posted by Murashu

At the rate people change games today, I seriously doubt everyone playing STO will be trekies. Im sure each server will have its share of elitist a-holes, but they are in every MMO.

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I doubt many Trek fans will be playing for very long.

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Two opinions here... and the game could really go either way at this point.

You know, nearly any time you turn a big IP into a game or movie, a lot of die-hard fans get angry or hate it. And some other people who aren't die-hard fans pick it up and think its pretty cool, in a casual way.

I don't hate STO, and I think a lot of Trekkies/Trekkers will love it, but I am a pretty die hard Trekker and I have already made the decision that I will not be playing STO based on its game design.

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Hardcore Trek fans will hate this game, because it isn't Trek.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by grandpagamer

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Hardcore Trek fans will hate this game, because it isn't Trek.

Some of us will.  But there are those who will never be happy.

Originally posted by Zartanyen

I am not the a huge trek fan, I enjoyed the series and the movies ( the last one was the best movie of the summer) but that is as far as it goes.

I have played many MMO's mainly the standard phantasy ones all the big ones WOW,AOC,WAR,EQ, ETC. ETC., but with the list of garbage put out over the last year or so AOC,WAR,CHAMPIONS,AION, I am just sick to death and want to try something new.

My question is will the communtiy just be a giant trek convention on a MMO plat form? will region chat, guild and vent be full of nothing but trek talk that has nothing to do with the game or the situation at hand 24/7.

I am a hardcore player as in puting in over 40+ hours a week, always joining one of the top rank guilds and aliances, and striving to be the best at PVP and end game, what % of the game will I be missing out on or how will it effect over all play for me if I am not the bigiest fan or versed in lore.

DO NOT take this as a trek bashing post IT IS NOT!

I just do not want to get involved with a game where 90% of the population is going to be talking about stuff that I will have no clue about or where not knowing this out side of the MMO stuff will put me at a in game disadvantage.

The hardcore trekkies are almost impossible to please. The ones that complain about the proper look of the jeffries tube or the correct size of the plasma coolant are the type people that you will never please so it's pointless even trying. As long as the game is fun to play, I wouldn't worry too much about what is going on in the chat channels. I usually ignore those anyway.

I'm suprised that you are worried about harcore trek fans when you played World of Warcract and Age of Conan. Those are two games with a pretty good fan following and I'm sure you ran across a few "OMG, this game got the sword wrong!"

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by grandpagamer

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Hardcore Trek fans will hate this game, because it isn't Trek.

So you've played it already? Do tell us all about it!

As for "Trek talk"... I wouldn't worry too much about it. There will be some of course but I personally don't think it will be overly tiresome. Of course there will be those few special Trek fans that were expecting a Star Trek life simulator that will bitch up a storm right after launch but they will either soon except the fact that this is a game or they will quit... either is good as we won't have to listen to them anymore.

Bren

I dunno...

How long has star trek been around compared to how long Warcraft has been around?  Are there a ton of movies/IPs similar to Star trek, like there is with Warcraft? hmm.

I would expect to see people screaming just like they did in SWG about how wrong they are with some things.  Compared to the decades of ST, there will easily be a bigger chance of things not being correct...

Yeah, there are some things that can't be helped, but, you can be there will be plenty of complainers.

Originally posted by Brenelael

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by grandpagamer

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Hardcore Trek fans will hate this game, because it isn't Trek.

So you've played it already? Do tell us all about it!

 

As for "Trek talk"... I wouldn't worry too much about it. There will be some of course but I personally don't think it will be overly tiresome. Of course there will be those few special Trek fans that were expecting a Star Trek life simulator that will bitch up a storm right after launch but they will either soon except the fact that this is a game or they will quit... either is good as we won't have to listen to them anymore.

 

Bren

Ive mentioned before that I think artistic license has to be used here as well as it is in LOTRO and most likely AOC although im not as up on Howards lore as i would like  to be. Hard core fans of Tolkien complain a bit about this or that but any game of a great IP has to vary some to make it fun to play. My buddy said Smaug was the last dragon in middle earth but what would a fantasy game be without at least some dragon kin to slay? Same will hold true with STO here and there im sure.

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Originally posted by Swanea
I dunno...
How long has star trek been around compared to how long Warcraft has been around?  Are there a ton of movies/IPs similar to Star trek, like there is with Warcraft? hmm.
I would expect to see people screaming just like they did in SWG about how wrong they are with some things.  Compared to the decades of ST, there will easily be a bigger chance of things not being correct...
Yeah, there are some things that can't be helped, but, you can be there will be plenty of complainers.

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Meh, Star Trek is, in all honesty, not always canon to itself. The various Star Trek series writers have made contradictions between the series and films all the time. True Trekkies know this. (Robert April, anybody? The Eugenics Wars? Imperial Klingons? Starfleet insignia communicator tapping?) The newest Star Trek film took the only safe bet that any Star Trek franchise could - an alternate universe.

Also, unlike Star Wars, Star Trek -books- are not considered canon. So there's all sorts of lore that is not "official", or contradicts other lore.

I know that plenty of Trekkies will be up-in-arms over technicalities, but I honestly think as a Trekker myself that less of us will sweat the small stuff than Star Wars fans did in SWG.

They would have to do something really bizzare, like negate the Prime Directive, or mess with the lore or appearance of the 'Top 10' alien species to infuriate the average Trekkie/Trekker.

Originally posted by grandpagamer 

Ive mentioned before that I think artistic license has to be used here as well as it is in LOTRO and most likely AOC although im not as up on Howards lore as i would like  to be. Hard core fans of Tolkien complain a bit about this or that but any game of a great IP has to vary some to make it fun to play. My buddy said Smaug was the last dragon in middle earth but what would a fantasy game be without at least some dragon kin to slay?

True to the IP. As opposed to a bait and switch. If you want dragon-slaying, then LotR is not the right IP. This slack endorsement of IP-breaking is a major reason these MMOs turn out so similar to each other. The IPs are just treated as a marketing gimmick, rather than a central foundation to build the world around. It's hack production at its 'finest'.

Same will hold true with STO here and there im sure.

"Trek fans want to be the captain"

Originally posted by Tisiphone

 

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They would have to do something really bizzare, like negate the Prime Directive, or mess with the lore or appearance of the 'Top 10' alien species to infuriate the average Trekkie/Trekker.

LOL. You honestly think the Prime Directive is going to be upheld in this game?

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Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

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Originally posted by Tisiphone

 

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They would have to do something really bizzare, like negate the Prime Directive, or mess with the lore or appearance of the 'Top 10' alien species to infuriate the average Trekkie/Trekker.

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LOL. You honestly think the Prime Directive is going to be upheld in this game?

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You know, Doubter, you have a damn good point. But I decided a while ago I wouldn't be playing ST:O.

Originally posted by Zartanyen

 will region chat, guild and vent be full of nothing but trek talk that has nothing to do with the game or the situation at hand 24/7.

My guess is that region chat will be full of people talking about WoW, and how much better/worse WoW is than STO. 

Originally posted by kartool

 My guess is that region chat will be full of people talking about WoW, and how much better/worse WoW is than STO. 

Indeed. WoW is like the weather. When there is nothing else to talk about...

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by grandpagamer

There will be a lot of  trek fans in the game of course but I think many will try the game that are not huge fans of the trek universe. If its a great game trekkies and non trekkies alike will remain and play. If the game is not so good i would expect the majority of those that do remain will be the hard core trekkies.

Hardcore Trek fans will hate this game, because it isn't Trek.

I guess we played 2 different games, as Im a Hardcore Trek fan and loved it even in its alpha stage. You have played it right???  

Originally posted by jmd10222 

 

I guess we played 2 different games, as Im a Hardcore Trek fan and loved it even in its alpha stage. You have played it right???  

Nope.

I'll take you at your word about being a hard core Trek fan. So, tell me what you love about it.