Siege from yesterday.  This was one side.

PS - X-fire is crap.

Still not many people, but yeah....x-fire numbers are pretty useless when it comes to population numbers.  It's usually only good for showing trends, and even that is debatable.

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Siege from yesterday.  This was one side.

PS - X-fire is crap.

Not to be harsh... but the title of your thread is incorrect.

Your title says "More players in this picture than on X-Fire total"

X-Fire for DarkFall has 77 users

The picture above has between 40-50 users... just saying. 

Does MMORPG put their logo on every image you upload or is that photo already used on the website somewhere?

Originally posted by Murashu

Does MMORPG put their logo on every image you upload

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/screens

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Siege from yesterday.  This was one side.

 

PS - X-fire is crap.

Not to be harsh... but the title of your thread is incorrect.

 

Your title says "More players in this picture than on X-Fire total"

X-Fire for DarkFall has 77 users

The picture above has between 40-50 users... just saying. 

 

 

he said one side :)

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Siege from yesterday.  This was one side.

PS - X-fire is crap.

Not to be harsh... but the title of your thread is incorrect.

 

Your title says "More players in this picture than on X-Fire total"

X-Fire for DarkFall has 77 users

The picture above has between 40-50 users... just saying.   

38, actually, and that's assuming ALL the mounts have people on ( some on the left side look like they don't ) and that I didn't over count ( which I probably did ). That's, you know, less than half? This guy is bad at maths.

My clan decided not to use X-fire on all the games we play together. Also i know for sure we didn't took part on that siege.

Originally posted by rafikos

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Siege from yesterday.  This was one side.

 

PS - X-fire is crap.

Not to be harsh... but the title of your thread is incorrect.

 

Your title says "More players in this picture than on X-Fire total"

X-Fire for DarkFall has 77 users

The picture above has between 40-50 users... just saying. 

 

 

 

he said one side :)

He also said:

"in this picture"

I'm not arguing that there might very well have been 100+ people at that battle. 

The picture itself though... which he says contains "more"... in fact does not. 

Edit:

Thought I better spell it out for some who might think this is a "serious issue" for me.

I am giving Zeno a hard time with this post because I think it was silly of him to try and point out that DarkFall has at least 77 players.  I seriously doubt that even the most harsh critic here believes that DarkFall has less than 77 players... so what's the point?

We all know that DarkFall has a small population for a MMO.  But, as long as they have enough to keep their players happy that is all that matters.  From those that play who post here, it seems like the population is o.k. on each server's prime time.  They admit it could be better and are hoping the upcoming "expansion" increases the population.

Anyway, just remember... if you are going to make a post claiming to have a picture showing 77+ players... make sure the picture shows 77+ players. 

 All that pic proves is that you cannot count. The pop in DF is low compared to world size and no one can debate that. Taking time to try and disprove xfire like people do only lends support to its numbers otherwise you would just ignore them because since you play the game you know how many is there. Yesterday me and some clan mates went looking for a fight. Only place we found them was on Cairn near a city. The mainland needs some serious population love.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 All that pic proves is that you cannot count. The pop in DF is low compared to world size and no one can debate that. Taking time to try and disprove xfire like people do only lends support to its numbers otherwise you would just ignore them because since you play the game you know how many is there. Yesterday me and some clan mates went looking for a fight. Only place we found them was on Cairn near a city. The mainland needs some serious population love.

The EU community ensured the only place to find people are on the islands. Sorry, but most of the EU clans are pussies.

On topic: Xfire is crap, why would you even try to disprove the Xfire numbers? If you want to do that get all of you clan to start usin Xfire

With Warhammer, AOC, WOW and most other western MMORPGs..   Xfire usually represents about 2-3% of subscribers from the west ( WOW comes out to about 5M).

The lower the number, the more unlikely it is to be accurate though, so the 77 number means nothing.

But you can tell from just playing the game that there are probably less than 2k players per server and almost everyone in the game is in one of the few major guilds at this point.  So having 30 people lined up for one side, could very well be about  a quarter of all players on the server at that time.

Originally posted by Alandora

With Warhammer, AOC, WOW and most other western MMORPGs..   Xfire usually represents about 2-3% of subscribers from the west ( WOW comes out to about 5M).

The lower the number, the more unlikely it is to be accurate though, so the 77 number means nothing.

But you can tell from just playing the game that there are probably less than 2k players per server and almost everyone in the game is in one of the few major guilds at this point.  So having 30 people lined up for one side, could very well be about  a quarter of all players on the server at that time.

There are more than 2k, they may be that number just on the EU server, but total is more than that. People were saying there was less than 10k people playing the game total at launch and that was basically prove to be wrong.

 I still think the pop is around 15k total. Around the starter towns there are few people. When I started a new human about 2 weeks ago there was maybe 6-8 people around the town for the couple of days I was around. Only saw 1 gank squad and they didnt even loot my stone. I think the october expansion will help a bit and I also think EU1 will be a ghost town after transfers open which will make it seem much fuller. Most of the pop is on the islands though which is just a pain in the ass.

Originally posted by xpiher 

There are more than 2k, they may be that number just on the EU server, but total is more than that. People were saying there was less than 10k people playing the game total at launch and that was basically prove to be wrong.

Didn't the game peak at about 15k CHARACTERS created total on EU?

Originally posted by Dawnsinger

Originally posted by xpiher 

There are more than 2k, they may be that number just on the EU server, but total is more than that. People were saying there was less than 10k people playing the game total at launch and that was basically prove to be wrong.

Didn't the game peak at about 15k CHARACTERS created total on EU?

And no one was able to prove where that number came from. When people started pulling numbers out of their ass, serveral people actually went through the major alliances in the game and pulled their numbers from the game. There were 10k players just in the major alliances, thats when hyperion still existed. From those spreadsheets, it was estimated that EU had between 15k-30k which was probably closer to 20k.

Is havenandheart a full loot game?

Originally posted by xpiher

And no one was able to prove where that number came from. When people started pulling numbers out of their ass, serveral people actually went through the major alliances in the game and pulled their numbers from the game. There were 10k players just in the major alliances, thats when hyperion still existed. From those spreadsheets, it was estimated that EU had between 15k-30k which was probably closer to 20k.

 

Is havenandheart a full loot game?

Wasn't it 13k from EVERY single guild in the game, including deleted / unplayed characters?

Full loot and SORT of permadeath. Developers / moderators also have a policy on no interference except when people exploit bugs without reporting them.

not impressed, ive seen more in SWG (pre-CU) and in eve online (current)

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

not impressed, ive seen more in SWG (pre-CU) and in eve online (current)

Ok seriously can we keep some perspective here please. DF is not even close to either of these games. EVE  in its first year didnt have 15k subs and SWG pre CU was a known huge nerd IP with a major studio behind it of course it had more. Apples to apples would be saying UO had more in its first year or even Fallen Earth having more. Might as well say...well hell WOW has more in your example.

Originally posted by Dawnsinger

Originally posted by xpiher

And no one was able to prove where that number came from. When people started pulling numbers out of their ass, serveral people actually went through the major alliances in the game and pulled their numbers from the game. There were 10k players just in the major alliances, thats when hyperion still existed. From those spreadsheets, it was estimated that EU had between 15k-30k which was probably closer to 20k.

 

Is havenandheart a full loot game?

Wasn't it 13k from EVERY single guild in the game, including deleted / unplayed characters?

Full loot and SORT of permadeath. Developers / moderators also have a policy on no interference except when people exploit bugs without reporting them.

I think even the most ardent hater agreed it was closer to 20k. You had a lot of solo lone wolf types and even folks with 2 accounts still counts so 20 seems more realistic.