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Vemoi
Novice Member
Joined: 5/14/05
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10/19/09 2:37:34 AM#41
Originally posted by kobie173
I checked out your theory and EVERY link I clicked in Drudge had the same headline as the link said except for the main headline. "Balloon Bust" link said "Authorities: 'Balloon boy' incident was a hoax" WOW! I'm never going to trust Drudge again. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -- Winston Churchill |
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10/19/09 2:40:19 AM#42
Originally posted by kobie173
That's basically what Drudge IS, just like HuffPo, except HP has a few opinion columnists. However, Drudge (like HP) often puts EXTREMELY misleading headlines on their articles ... and as anyone with a modicum of journalistic training knows, headlines draw the reader in, and often prejudice the reader before they know what they're reading.
Exactly. A lot of threads started in these very forums have the same subject line as the headlines of the articles they link to, and those headlines frame the posters entire viewpoint. So bias does matter, Drudge Report leans on its headlines to assert its ideological leaning. It's actually quite criminal here, and to give Fisher a freebie, 'the left', or rather Falice, is most criminal of all. |
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10/19/09 2:43:03 AM#43
Originally posted by sepher
That's basically what Drudge IS, just like HuffPo, except HP has a few opinion columnists. However, Drudge (like HP) often puts EXTREMELY misleading headlines on their articles ... and as anyone with a modicum of journalistic training knows, headlines draw the reader in, and often prejudice the reader before they know what they're reading.
Exactly. A lot of threads started in these very forums have the same subject line as the headlines of the articles they link to, and those headlines frame the posters entire viewpoint. So bias does matter, Drudge Report leans on its headlines to assert its ideological leaning. It's actually quite criminal here, and to give Fisher a freebie, 'the left', or rather Falice, is most criminal of all.
Ya, as a card-carrying member of the "left," I will agree that when you make the HuffPo headline your thread title, you lose a shitload of credibility. Same as Drudge. Same reason I immediately discount those who copy + paste grafs out of a website into their post without noting the source as being fully without merit -- if you're going to quote an obviously "biased" source (i.e. whoever it was with the WND paragraph), at least have the balls to link to it. So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist. |
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10/19/09 2:43:39 AM#44
And btw, can someone please tell me how to actually make a hyperlink to a website on this forum? Mine all come in as plain text. So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist. |
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10/19/09 10:24:14 AM#45
Originally posted by kobie173
lower half of the tool bar, in the middle is the planet with a paper clip icon under it. Click it, a screen opens up, paste the url in there and there you go :) |
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10/19/09 10:32:49 AM#46
Rense.com =) "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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10/19/09 10:32:59 AM#47
Originally posted by kobie173
Unblocked you to respond to this comment. This is the EXACT way rational people who understand the ins and outs of what journalism is these days, and can take into account the factors that go behind the reporting, view their news. Only a single-minded idiot would get their news from one source. That is the equivalent of masturbation -- self-satisfaction by getting news that is predetermined to satisfy your need to see a story from one angle. Anyone who ONLY gets their news from Fox, or CNN, or MSNBC, or NPR, or the NYT, WSJ, AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, et al. is doing themselves a grave disservice. However, most peopl e that DO get their news from one source don't give a rat's ass, because they are so ingrained in their beliefs that they feel all other sources except for the one they get their news from are inherently biased (which they are) and therefore invalid or lack credibility (which is not so).
Well I feel you and I may have to agree to disagree on politics but we will always agree on this, probably because we both love good journalism. I remember you saying you were in the business; and while it's been a long time since my media days, I HAVE been a tech Director for a political talk show as well as doing camera, production and tech Director for local and public access TV, I'm noweher near as experienced as you, but I understand the business. And you are absolutely right about Drudge's headlines. I am reminded of an old Spider-Man comic when earth was being invaded by skrulls or whatever. Someone put a headline to the Bugle which said, "Alien Invasion!" Jonah flips out saying the Bugle doesn't print sensationalistic crap like that! he grabs his pen and changes it to "Alien Invasion?" He then says, now THAT's journalism! |
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10/19/09 10:33:53 AM#48
Originally posted by Scalebane
Now THAT's journalism! |
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10/19/09 10:38:50 AM#49
Originally posted by Fishermage
Now THAT's journalism!
=P "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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10/19/09 1:07:16 PM#50
Originally posted by Scalebane
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10/19/09 1:47:46 PM#51
Originally posted by Fishermage
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Great site!....lol that guy is something.... "The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand." |
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Plasuma!!!
Novice Member
Joined: 9/19/05
There's a formula for everything, even famous quotes. |
10/23/09 6:26:56 AM#52
The only news worth watching is the Daily Show and the Colbert Report. Highly satirical and liberal as they are, they're entertaining. That's all the news is anymore anyways. You're either getting riled up and emotional about some injustice the "serious" networks are broadcasting, or you're crying over a sob-story online. I choose to laugh at the world.
If you want reliable news, gather similar stories from at least 60% of the available sources, then compile it all into a huge blob of neutrality in your mind. With that, you'll get what actually happened, which is one of two things: a misunderstanding or an accident. |
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10/23/09 10:07:30 AM#53
Originally posted by Scalebane
Great site!....lol that guy is something....
Other than Robert Anton Wilson, he is by far my favorite on the subject. I have seen him lecture in person. He gives a GREAT presentation.
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